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"If you don't stop crying, I will shoot you'
The Times (UK) ^ | 9/4/04 | Jeremy Page

Posted on 09/03/2004 5:35:31 PM PDT by saquin

[Pupils were lured by chocolate then starved and threatened by terrorists]

WHEN their chance of freedom came with a massive explosion that shook School No 1, many of the children found that they could not escape.

Forced to strip to their underwear and sit shoulder-to-shoulder for three days with their knees tucked under their chins, their legs were numb and would not respond to the instinct to flee.

Hungry and dehydrated after being denied food and water by their captors, they stumbled aimlessly and weakly, their way further hampered by the debris and dust from the blast falling all around them.

The stronger ones reached the windows and began to break the glass with their fists, cutting and scratching their hands, arms and faces in their frantic efforts to get out.

And as they ran, crying and fearful, gunmen in the upper floors of the school began shooting at them.

Fatima, 15, dazed and clearly in shock, seemed to know little of her escape. “I don’t know what caused the blast, I just remember a huge bang,” she said.

“I tried to get up but I couldn’t walk or see anything. Somebody grabbed me and then I cannot remember anything until I got to hospital.”

Vitaly Makiyev, 11, was shaking as he told how policemen carried him from the building. When the gunmen arrived on Wednesday morning, Vitaly had run back into the school building, thinking he would be safe there.

“They held us for three days and they didn’t give us any food or water,” he cried.

Rosa Dudiyea told the Kommersant newspaper that the hostage-takers had at first pretended to be Russian and lured some children into the building with sweets.

“A military lorry appeared in front of the school building. People wearing camouflage and masks jumped out — I could see only their eyes and beards,” she said.

“They opened fire, everyone started running about. Some people, including myself, managed to hide behind a fence.

“Several gunmen stayed outside, near the entrance. They started screaming in very good Russian, ‘Russians, Russians, come here, don’t be afraid!’ One of the terrorists tried to lure children with chocolate.”

A woman teacher who was freed with her three-year-old daughter on the second day of the seige, but forced to leave her older children behind, said that as many as 1,500 people had been in the school when the siege began.

“It happened within two or three minutes,” she told Izvestiya newspaper. “We had begun to form a line in the school yard to listen to the headmistress’s September 1 speeches when suddenly we heard shots.

“We were herded into the sports hall. The doors into the hall were locked. People in masks broke the windows and leapt through them and then they broke the doors down. In the hall they ordered us to sit on the floor and began quickly to mine the room.

“Two large explosive devices were put in the basketball nets and then through the hall they led wires that they attached to smaller explosive devices. The whole place was mined within ten minutes.”

Atsamas Ketsoyev, 14, told The Times: “There were bombs laid out all around the gymnasium — some were hanging from the ceiling and there was one big bomb in the middle of the room. There were two women wearing explosive belts. There was also a man standing with his foot on something like a pedal or a button.”

Around this, said Atsamas, the half-naked children were forced to sit, crammed together “with our knees under our chins”.

It was hot and many had difficulty breathing even after the hostage-takers — who never removed their masks — ordered male hostages to smash windows.

The teacher who was freed said that the terrorists had frequently fired shots to stop children crying and prevent people talking. “The younger classes were terrified. They often asked to go to the toilet. They took them to the toilet in groups. If the younger ones cried the fighters shot in the air and shouted at them to be quiet. Then the young ones were silent.

“There were six or seven fighters in the hall. Two at one end, two at the other. Two or three walked around the hall. I can’t say how many there were, although when we went to the toilet I saw in the corridor there were many of them — some lying down, some walking around.

“On the first day they brought a few buckets of water from the loo. People in masks gave the babies powdered milk in cold, unboiled water.”

The teacher said that women with very young children were later moved upstairs because the crying of the babies irritated the gunmen.

She said: “A frightened child in the hall made a noise and one of the fighters seized a child and threatened to kill it if the noise didn’t stop.

“One of the terrorists grabbed a child who was crying and said ‘If this noise doesn’t stop I’ll shoot you’.”

She continued: “The terrorists said that they only demanded one thing — that troops should be taken out of Chechnya. In general they spoke little and mostly in whispers, but we heard that.

“Mostly they explained things with gestures. By their speech it was possible to make out there were Chechens and Ingush among them.”

The teacher said that during the night some of the children became more frightened and would wake crying from fitful dozes. She added: “The young ones began to cry every now and then, and the fighters shot into the air and enforced silence.

“In the morning they told us they wouldn’t give us any more water because the authorities were refusing to negotiate. When the children were taken to the loo some tried to drink from the tap. The fighters stopped this.”

Some children among those who escaped said they had become so thirsty they drank their own urine. Others had ripped leaves off pot plants in the school and eaten them.

Male hostages were held apart from the women and children and some were forced to “work” — boarding up windows and throwing out the corpses of those killed when the school was seized.

One teenager escaped when he jumped from a window out of which he had just thrown a body. He broke his leg but managed to hide until nightfall when he crawled to safety.

Hostages said they believed that the terrorists had murdered some of the wounded.

Zalina Dzandzarova, freed on the second day of the siege, said she believed that two suicide bombers had killed themselves on Wednesday, detonating their explosive belts in the corridor, where male hostages were being kept. Mrs Dzandarova said: “They took some of the injured out of the gym and finished them off right there.”


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: beslan; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; caucasus; nocaircondemnation; nukemecca; ossetia; russian; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; terrorists; whereiscair
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To: saquin

Anybody heard what the Russians are going to do? STRATFOR or anyone giving up the beef. Russian divisions massing anywhere? Justice needs to be swift and absolute.


41 posted on 09/03/2004 6:12:23 PM PDT by Malichi
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To: Dallas59

Do we have any Russian Freepers?


42 posted on 09/03/2004 6:13:03 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (..with a six in one hand...and half a dozen in the other!)
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To: BurbankKarl

Russia doesn't worry about political correctness, and I think they'll soon respond in a manner in which the ACLU and the Kerry crowd would not approve. One nuke would calm down a lot of "religion of peace-ers". Either that or vaporize them.


43 posted on 09/03/2004 6:18:04 PM PDT by holyscroller (Actions speak louder than bumperstickers)
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To: Big Digger

These Chechyn terrorists are very complex people with needs. They are obviously very disturbed about something. Our children must have offended them. We need to be very sensitive in responding to them.

That will be John Kerry's fantasy. I think the Russians should behead the captives, on TV, without delay, and attack their nest forthwith. Ther is nothing left to negotiate. These vermin are klingons.



Wikipedia listing:
SECOND CHECHEN WAR
http://www.fact-index.com/s/se/second_chechen_war.html

Forget about Kerry for a moment. If your family and community had been carpet bombed for years, and tens of thousands of your neighbors, men women AND CHILDREN had been slaughtered by the invaders, you might have a beef with the people who sent the bombers too.

You might even be vulnerable to being recruited by your cultural equivalent of the Islamofascists, and not be very solicitous of the families and children of the population that sent its bombers and armies into your country.

War, especially total war on civilian populations, has unpleasant effects on those who are caught up in it. You see photos of one action in this Chechen struggle. There are plenty more where the victims were Chechen civilians, including children, going back many years.



44 posted on 09/03/2004 6:18:27 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

It is really OK -- and Christ modeled it -- to HATE EVIL. It really is ok. It really is.


45 posted on 09/03/2004 6:21:30 PM PDT by bboop
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To: Dallas59
Rebels, right. I would love to type out what I'm thinking but I would be banned from FR. Nothing is horrible enough for the people who made these children suffer so much.

President Bush sees and hears more of these horrors than we do. He knows what is at stake. Just imagine if this happened to your children's and grandchildren's school.

My prayers for all those who lost their loved ones.

46 posted on 09/03/2004 6:21:46 PM PDT by gramho12 (W 04)
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To: mylife
Look at it, and get a bellyfull, because this is what we face.

You nailed it bump

47 posted on 09/03/2004 6:22:21 PM PDT by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: Big Digger

A quick beheading is a quick death, I would perfer to nail their balls to a block of wood and then set the wood on fire. Give them a box cutter if they want to get loose from the block of wood.


48 posted on 09/03/2004 6:26:38 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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To: Dallas59

I have to say this is the first time I agree with Michael Savage and his outrage. Today all he could talk about was how the media was hiding the truth behind this story and that the US media was too busy covering the RNC, the hurricane and Clinton's health. He said "Hell was full for now and Clinton will be among us for a while longer" But the big story is this and we'd better wake up.


49 posted on 09/03/2004 6:29:06 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

There is NO JUSTIFYING shooting little children in the back. NONE. Don't you teach your kids, when they are frustrated -- "Still you may not break the door down?" Everybody gets frustrated, everyone gets wronged sometime, EVERYONE has a beef -- IF they hone it and polish it and love it and cherish it, they can always justify hurting someone in response. It is the default mode of human behavior. They are lily-livered soulless cowards of the worst sort.


50 posted on 09/03/2004 6:29:21 PM PDT by bboop
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To: jakkknife

We are looking directly into the black abyss that are the eyes of evil.


51 posted on 09/03/2004 6:30:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Kerry broke the faith, pure and simple.)
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To: saquin
The teacher who was freed said that the terrorists had frequently fired shots to stop children crying and prevent people talking. “The younger classes were terrified. They often asked to go to the toilet. They took them to the toilet in groups. If the younger ones cried the fighters shot in the air and shouted at them to be quiet.

And the solution to is-slime is...no, best not to write that. Not quite yet. But the time will come when people everywhere know what needs to be done. And do it.

52 posted on 09/03/2004 6:31:43 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

Cut the moral equivalence crap; this was the deliberate mass murder of hundreds of children and their families and their use as human shields by a bunch of cowardly trash trying to save their own worthless hides. You seem to forget that the Chechens were the prime allies of the Nazis; the Ossetians fought with the Russians. The Chechens had their independence from 1995/9 and did such wonderful things as: 1) invading neighboring republics; 2) destroying a hospital and killing nearly 200 hostages; 3) demanding $20 million ransom for five Brit telecom engineers, getting it, then cutting off their heads and putting them on stakes; 4) beheading captured young Russian soldiers for the "fun of it" on videos they sold; 5) blowing up two apartment buildings in Moscow, killing more than 300 people, many children. I could go on for paragraph after paragraph.


53 posted on 09/03/2004 6:31:55 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Braak

Right now, I think the Russians should give them their "freedom" and let them set up their theocracy and once they get comfy, incinerate the damn place with a 100 megatoner. I could almost see them doing that. That's what happens when you play with bears.


54 posted on 09/03/2004 6:33:17 PM PDT by virgil
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To: saquin
I can't even comment, I'm so distressed.

sw

55 posted on 09/03/2004 6:35:55 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

people who defend/excuse the murder of innocent children are un-American and as guilty as the one who pulled the trigger.

Both will rot in Hell.


56 posted on 09/03/2004 6:36:07 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Braak
I only want their surrender after I have my boot squarely on their necks.

Sorry - no - it's time to borrow from Santa Anna and raise the Deguello flag.

57 posted on 09/03/2004 6:41:53 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (Come on you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?)
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To: BurbankKarl

Tupolev TU-95 Bear bomber accompanied by an F-22.

Maybe this is the kind of collaboration Russia and the US should be engaged in to fight the War on Terror...

58 posted on 09/03/2004 6:45:03 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: mylife
Its time to clear this scum from the planet

Amen, Amen!

ML/NJ ( A Mosque a Minute; Until We're Done. )

59 posted on 09/03/2004 6:45:37 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: El Conservador

F-18


60 posted on 09/03/2004 6:48:31 PM PDT by squirt (POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED, FOR THE SAME REASON)
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