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Russia Hostage Death Toll Said to Top 200
My Way, AP ^ | Sep 3, 4:37 PM (ET) | MIKE ECKEL

Posted on 09/03/2004 1:54:33 PM PDT by Nachum

BESLAN, Russia (AP) - Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia and overcame separatist rebels holding hundreds of hostages as crying children, some naked and covered in blood, fled the building through explosions and gunfire. Health officials said more than 200 people died, the Interfax news agency reported.

Ninety-five victims were identified - many of them children whose shattered, bloodied bodies were placed on lines of stretchers - and Interfax quoted unnamed sources in the regional Health Ministry as saying more than 200 people were killed by fire from the militants or died from their wounds.

Hundreds of hostages survived the crisis, which in targeting children on the first day of classes crossed a boundary and amounted to a significant escalation in the decade-old Russian-Chechen conflict. More than 700 others were injured, officials said.

World governments angrily condemned the school seizure. U.S. President George W. Bush on Friday called it "another grim reminder of the length to which terrorists will go to threaten this civilized world."

Russian authorities insisted that the militants initiated Friday's violence as emergency teams entered the school, with the hostage-takers' permission, to collect the bodies of several men who had been executed earlier. It was not clear where the tragic end to the siege would leave President Vladimir Putin's tough policy on Chechnya, which to date had enjoyed broad support despite the heavy toll rebel violence has taken in recent years.

An explosives expert told NTV television that the commandos charged into the building after bombs - hung in basketball hoops by the hostage-takers - exploded. A sobbing young girl who escaped the school told NTV that a suicide bomber blew herself up in the gym where children were kept captive.

Twenty militants were killed in more than 10 hours of gunfights with security forces, 10 of them Arabs, Valery Andreyev, the region's Federal Security Service chief, said in televised comments. Putin's adviser on Chechnya, Aslanbek Aslakhanov, also said a number of the dead militants were Arab mercenaries.

After trading fire with militants holed up in the basement of a school annex, officials said the fighting was over, but that four militants remained at large. Three suspected hostage-takers were arrested trying to escape wearing civilian dress, Channel One TV reported, and Ekho Moskvy radio said a suspected female hostage-taker was detained when she approached an area hospital wearing a white robe.

The Arab presence among the attackers would bolster Putin's case that the Russian campaign in neighboring Chechnya, where mostly Muslim separatists have been fighting Russian forces in a brutal war for most of the past decade, is part of the war on international terrorism.

Late Friday, the ITAR-Tass new agency cited unspecified security sources as saying al-Qaida financed the attack on the school, and that Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev masterminded the raid. The report also said an alleged al-Qaida operative, Abu Omar as-Saif, coordinated the financing of the attack.

Regional President Alexander Dzasokhov said Friday that the hostage-takers had demanded that Russian troops leave Chechnya - the first clear indication of their demands and of a direct link between the attack on the school and the ongoing war in the neighboring region.

Officials at the crisis headquarters said 95 victims had been identified. Emergency Situations Ministry officials said 704 people were hospitalized, including 259 children. Many were badly burned.

Aslakhanov told Interfax the death toll could be "much more" than 150, and said in televised comments that the militants claimed they initially seized some 1,200 hostages, most of them children - far more than earlier estimates of 350.

The militants seized the school in North Ossetia on Wednesday, a day after a suicide bomb blast outside a Moscow subway station killed at least nine people, and just over a week after two Russian passenger jets crashed nearly simultaneously after what authorities believed were explosions on board triggered by suicide bombers, possibly Chechen women.

A hostage who escaped told Associated Press Television News that the militants numbered 28, including women in camouflage. The hostage, who identified himself only as Teimuraz, said the militants began wiring the school with explosives as soon as they took control Wednesday.

The commandos stormed the school on the third day of the crisis, moving in after about 30 women and children broke out of the building, some bloodied and screaming, after the explosions.

Russian officials said the violence came when - under an agreement reached Friday morning - emergency workers entered the school to retrieve the bodies of hostages who had been killed. A local legislator, Azamat Kadykov, had told the hostages' relatives that 20 adult men had been executed.

Andreyev said there were two large explosions, and people started running. He said militants fired at fleeing hostages, and security forces opened return fire, along with civilian residents of the town who had armed themselves. The police sapper, speaking on NTV television, said bombs hanging from basketball hoops exploded.

The bomb expert said the gym had also been rigged with explosives packed in plastic bottles strung up around the room on a cord and stuffed with metal objects.

Women escaping the building were seen fainting and others, some covered in blood, were carried away on stretchers. Many children - parched, hungry and only partly clothed because of the stifling heat in the gym - ran out screaming and begging for water.

"They didn't let me go to the toilet for three days, not once. They never let me drink or go to the toilet," Teimuraz, the escaped hostage, told APTN.

Two emergency services workers were killed and three wounded during the chaos, Interfax reported.

Interfax said the school's roof collapsed, possibly from the explosives. The militants had reportedly threatened to blow up the building if authorities used force. Andreyev and Aslakhanov said there had been no plans to storm the school and that authorities had pinned hopes on negotiations.

Putin had said Thursday that everything possible would be done to end the "horrible" crisis and save the lives of the children and other hostages in this town of 35,000 people.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
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To: Nachum
I hope to goodness the Russians don't have a "multiculturalist" press to pressure them to play nice with these vermin.

But I also hope that after they deal with the terrorists they don't keep right on marching. I'm all for them defending themselves but do not want the sleeping bear aroused again. Does this make any sense?

41 posted on 09/03/2004 2:45:56 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Very attrocious but true.


42 posted on 09/03/2004 2:47:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. Between the two of them, I'd be safer with a slimy spitball.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I hope to goodness the Russians don't have a "multiculturalist" press to pressure them to play nice with these vermin.

Russians don't have a tradition of putting up with crap like that.

43 posted on 09/03/2004 2:49:15 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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To: Nachum
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44 posted on 09/03/2004 2:49:51 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: LiberalBassTurds
Speechless and more committed than ever to the liquidation of Islamikazis.

Anyone who can watch what went down in Russia and cast a vote for John Kerry is delusional or demented. Or both.

45 posted on 09/03/2004 2:51:11 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Wonder how long before the entire civilized world is fed up with the muslims.""

What is the over/under on that happening now? They are making liars out of those who claim it is a religion of "peace". More like pieces.....

John Kerry wants to fight them on a "more sensitive" basis.... SURE....that will work.



46 posted on 09/03/2004 2:52:08 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: laconic
Where were the mullahs and the imams in condemning this atrocity while it was ongoing and demanding the release of these innocents? Where were the Muslim "holy men" when children were denied food and water for 52 hours, were made to drink their own urine, were denied their medicines, had to watch while their dads were executed?

They were too busy preparing for 911 celebrations. The anniversary is coming up soon, and they are slavering to rejoice over the brutal murder of all those innocent infidels. The religion of peace has its priorities, ya know.
47 posted on 09/03/2004 2:53:05 PM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: broadsword

yes, Allah is pleased.


48 posted on 09/03/2004 2:54:47 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The Russians are not PC-whipped.
49 posted on 09/03/2004 2:56:57 PM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: Sender
Re the expression of Chechen "condolence" in your post 29: that is one of the most smarmy pieces of blaming the victims and excusing the criminals that I have ever read. This is the kind of "condolences" the US used to get during the Cold War when something terrible happened to our people. It's also identical to the propraganda trotted out as "humantiarian condolences" to the Israelis when stuff like this happens to them. (As a matter of fact, the "libertarians" over at Liberty Forum regularly claim that terrorist attacks on Israelis is actually perpetrated by the IDF on orders from Sharon. Great minds think alike, don't they?)

I hope the Russians will now question their decades-long policy of supporting the Arab/moslem world against the US and Israel.

May these monsters pay for what they have done, and may G-d bless and protect the Russian people and nation not only from islam, but from any resurgence of Communism or any other G-dless totalitarian ideology.

50 posted on 09/03/2004 2:56:58 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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To: rageaholic

Well... I supposed Allah could be pleased if he were anything more than a lifeless damned meteorite in the Kabbah of Mecca, but he's NOT!

What kind of primitive savages worship a stinking rock? Really!


51 posted on 09/03/2004 2:59:59 PM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: SAJ

Twenty militants were killed in more than 10 hours of gunfights with security forces, 10 of them Arabs.
If you read the sentence the way it was written, the REAL problem here is that the Russians are putting Arabs in their security forces. Terrible idea. ""

I read the sentence to say that "of the 20 militants that were killed, 10 of the militants were Arab". I don't read that the Russians had Arabs in their security forces. Am I wrong?


52 posted on 09/03/2004 3:00:36 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: sockmonkey

Typical monday-morning quarterbacking by the talking-heads. This was a no win situation from the start. One can't negotiate with a fanatic. The terrorists wanted this type of outcome.


53 posted on 09/03/2004 3:01:22 PM PDT by Dave278 ("Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ")
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To: archy
Archy,

There should be a thread about these 2 pictures. I have never seen a picture that is so powerful and is so apropos about the evil we face today.
54 posted on 09/03/2004 3:02:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Yes it is a "smarmy" condolence indeed. I am sure that the Chechens have lost many people in fighting with the Russians over the past 10 years. That unfortunately happens during war. But to do this to young children at a school, all the while demanding Chechen independence? This is the faith of Mohammad at work, it is no Russian maskirovka. Any pity I ever felt for the Chechens is gone now.


55 posted on 09/03/2004 3:06:02 PM PDT by Sender (I didn't leave cookays. I left him cheeese.)
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To: Billthedrill
A point to ponder, similar to the one made by the folks who jumped the 9/11 hijackers. There isn't any real point in passivity and obedience in the face of this sort of animal; you're going to die anyway so you might just as well take one of the bastards with you.

I know - the same thing occurred to me. But most of the adults were teachers, or moms - many with babies in their arms. Mothers can fight like tigers when their kids are threatened, but like the passengers in planes before 9/11, these women probably thought that they could "go along quietly" and live.

But that's not so any longer. We have to change our views - if someone is threatening to hold us hostage, we just have to mass together, mob them, and kill them, even if they *do* bring the roof down.

56 posted on 09/03/2004 3:08:11 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Geist Krieger
Perhaps, when it starts happening in schools in France and Germany?

It already *has* started in France. Aren't there two hostages still being held by jihadi over the Muslim head-scarf ban?

57 posted on 09/03/2004 3:09:30 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Jaded
Precisely so. As phrased, the Russian security forces included 10 Arab troops -- a statement almost certainly false on its face, and no one cares about the ethnic makeup of the security forces in any case. OTOH, 10 dead Arabs is a newsworthy fact here, considering the location of the events.

The most economical way to express the desired sentiment is probably something like:

Twenty militants, 10 of them Arabs, were killed in more than 10 hours of gunfights with security forces.

Heavy odds the ''journalist'' is a refugee from the pulbic skoolz using a 10th Ed. University of Chicago stylebook (if, indeed, any stylebook at all).

58 posted on 09/03/2004 3:13:43 PM PDT by SAJ (Have a very detailed look at writing CLV or CLX puts, 3.00-6.00 OOM (more for the X, naturally).)
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To: SkyPilot
I have never seen a picture that is so powerful and is so apropos about the evil we face today.


59 posted on 09/03/2004 3:15:09 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: cripplecreek

Nah. Let the Russkies give them a big sorprise! Free trips to Allah!


60 posted on 09/03/2004 3:19:20 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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