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646 vicitms of terrorist act in Beslan hospitalized.
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Posted on 09/03/2004 11:21:10 AM PDT by blasater1960
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646 vicitms of terrorist act in Beslan hospitalized.
03.09.2004, 22.00
The former hostages are receiving therapy in mobile hospitals and clinics of Beslan and Vladikavkaz, the source said.
Some 130 wounded people, including children, are in the Vladikavkaz clinic. The republican clinic has 38 patients, including five children, with the severest wounds and traumas, and the childrens clinic of Vladikavkaz has admitted 186 children.
Eighty adults are receiving therapy in the airmobile hospital, 200 in the medical emergency clinic, 32 in the republican clinic, two in the military hospital of Vladikavkaz, and four in the first town hospital of Vladikavkaz.
The town hospital of Beslan has admitted 98 adults, two were sent to the defense ministry hospital in Vladikavkaz, and one is in the Ardon town hospital.
The majority of patients have bullet wounds in the back, the sources said.
The storming of the school, was not prepared, the Russian presidents adviser Aslambek Aslakhanov told reporters on Friday. We were getting ready for dialogue in order to avoid spilling blood, he said.
Aslakhanov arrived in Beslan by air to take part in negotiation with the hostage takers.
According to Aslakhanov, the terrorists demanded the withdrawal of the troops from Chechnya and the release of all the people who had been arrested for attacking the security agencies of Ingushetia on June 22.
Aslakhanov said seven to 30 terrorists had been in the captured school. There were representatives of various ethnic groups in the gang. It was fully international, he said.
The number of those killed in the Beslan hostage crisis may by far exceed 150," Aslakhanov said.
Seventy-nine victims of the hostage crisis were identified by 9:15 p.m. Moscow time, head of the Federal Security Services North Ossetian department and the crisis center Valery Andreyev said.
Unfortunately, the death rate is mounting, he said adding that the operation against the terrorists is going on.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: beslan; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; caucasus; chechen; children; fascists; islam; islamofascists; muslim; nocaircondemnation; ossetia; russian; siege; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; terrorists; whereiscair
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To: nuconvert
And what plan would you have suggested?
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posted on
09/03/2004 3:09:16 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: mikhailovich
"I think it has everything to do with religion. This explains why the "peaceful" Muslems have NOTHING to say when these events occur."
And I must agree with you 100% that it is a religious war and not political. The aim of the jahadists is, of course, jihad. Their tool? Terrorism.
To: wardaddy
Gas would not have worked, because enough to knock terrorists off their feet rapidly would kill children.
243
posted on
09/03/2004 3:11:39 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
None. Please keep reading........
244
posted on
09/03/2004 3:12:23 PM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: nyconse
I was not trying to say by making them understand the difference or understanding us it will stop the terrorism.. Nothing will stop that till all those who for what ever reason... be it Sharia law... be poverty.... be it political injustice... as long as the feel they can use violence as a means of protest and combat terrorism will occur. That is a given... I just think this goes beyond pure religious reason.. there are a lot more reason terrorism happens besides Islamic Dogma.
245
posted on
09/03/2004 3:12:24 PM PDT
by
Americanwolf
(Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
To: twigs
What if the "assigned people" are terrorists? Think about this:
WE are the "assigned people". Assigned - by the Constitution - to defend ourselves against anything and anyone that tries to rob us of our freedom, especially through force.
Let teachers protect their classrooms -- get a vote to get rid of those "gun free" school zone laws, train teachers in gun safety and/or some dirty self-defense tricks, and protect the most vulnerable in America's future.
To: Americanwolf
I just think this goes beyond pure religious reason.. there are a lot more reason terrorism happens besides Islamic Dogma. Like what?
Multi-ethnic peoples from across the globe both wealthy and poor have attacked innocent people in Indonesia, Somalia, Yemen, Japan, Russia, the United States, and places far and wide. There is but one common thread my friend, and read it closely:
They are all ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALIST MURDERERS who hate our guts because we are INFIDELS.
The sooner the world comes to grip with this reality, the sooner they will be crushed from existence.
To: LurkedLongEnough
"train teachers"
I agree about training the teachers. But the question that assails me is: who are the "teachers?" Could the enemy be amongst the teacher? The answer is an unequivocal YES! The issue is really one of demographics. Who are the people (teachers et al) that make up the nation? Who are the people that used to make up the Soviet Union and today Russia? There are enemies amongst them (islamists et al) and these same enemies have been the cause of dissent, chaos and terrorism.
The point I'm trying to make is that when you arm the "teachers" you also arm the enemy because the teachers are a subset of the demographic pool. Ultimately, to "fix" the problem you must fix the demographics of the multicultural society by turning it into a monocultural one. Short of that it's all trivial, and in vain.
As the immigration floodgates remain open to third world we'll continue to gradually slip and slide into third worldism ourself with horrible consequences down the road. The writing is all over the wall for Americans to see. Many choose to disregard the signs or to mention it hoping that it will go away. But it won't. So history teaches us.
To: mikhailovich
I understand the point that there is Islamic terrorism in the world.. I am not denying that.. if you all would go back thru my post and read them I never deny that fact.
But the IRA is not an Islamic organization.
The M-17 Gangs that are here in the US are not Muslims they are south American criminals sent to the us to control the gangs to move product thru the us. (drug trade.) They are not Islamic terrorist.
There is a long list of Terrorist organizations that are active in this world that have no connection to Islamic groups.
That is the point that i am trying to get across.
I realize that there is a definite anger towards the Islamic Terrorists here. I hold that same anger, but I cannot and will not condemn an entire religion based on the acts of extremist. That would be like condemning all the Vets from Vietnam for the acts of few.. Like John Kerry did in 1971.
And in regards to your statement:
"There is but one common thread my friend, and read it closely:
They are all ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALIST MURDERERS who hate our guts because we are INFIDELS."
1.) I understand this all to well. I have been threatened as far back as 1995 for being the infidel. I did my time in the Persian gulf while in the Navy. I know how far the hatred and extremist belief go there I experience 1st hand.
2.) I have stated before I realize that the terrorism is not going to stop until all groups Islamic or otherwise cease to be able to use terrorism as an option. If The Islamic fascist don't use it the Maoist rebels in Nepal will they have been doing it for 50 years. 3.) If you want to preach at someone go to a church I am trying to make point and it is obvious that is has been missed several times now and the last thing I need is some one telling to read a comment closely.. when I have already stated that I know that fact. I will say it again to the point of exasperation. Yes there are Muslim terrorists in the world... No, the will not stop until either we are destroy or they are.. Make no mistake this is a fight for the civilized world. Yes, there are other terrorist organization in this world we need to be concerned about too that are not Muslim organizations. I think anyone is unwise to not view as threat on the same level as Muslim terrorist orgs. My point as clear as I can make it is: The Terrorists of the world use many reasons behind committing there attack. It is not purely a religious battle with terrorism. It is Ideological and that extends purely beyond religious belief.
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posted on
09/03/2004 3:52:55 PM PDT
by
Americanwolf
(Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
To: MarMema
Thank you for the ping. What a horrible day for the children, adults and all their friends and family.
To: Travis McGee
agreed...this was a hard one.
To: Americanwolf
I see you haven't been on FR for very long. As you stay on FR, you will get better at recognizing a dry sarcasm used by many Freepers. Some try to avoid such misunderstandings by framing such sarcastic comments with .... tags, I'm one of those who generally don't.
252
posted on
09/03/2004 5:22:21 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: wardaddy
Bastards. The morons are going to make themselves extinct if they keep this up.
253
posted on
09/03/2004 5:36:04 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: fso301
My apologies.. I understand now... Yes that was very dry sarcasm... now that i see it for what it is it is pretty funny.. I will admit I was on the defensive when I reply to you. I have been getting blasted on a few other threads for trying to convince others that there are more than just Muslim terrorist in the world.
Once again I apologize. and now that I know that you are a source of dry sarcasm I will defiantly keep that in mind. :)
254
posted on
09/03/2004 5:39:47 PM PDT
by
Americanwolf
(Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
To: ProudVet77
Yes, LISP was the AI language, but even with linking we still have no real AI.
255
posted on
09/03/2004 5:48:42 PM PDT
by
KC_for_Freedom
(Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
To: Travis McGee
Our ancestors from way way back had no illusions what they were up against.
To: wardaddy
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posted on
09/03/2004 6:06:23 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: blasater1960
If I were Putin I would carpet bomb and level a Chechen city, then I would tell them that for every such act I will level another Chechen city, the old soviet mainstay bomber was the tupolov bear, from what I have seen on discovery wings channel they can carry a substantial bomb load.
These animals said that for every one scumbag killed, they would kill fifty children, well I`d give them a taste of their own medicine.
258
posted on
09/03/2004 6:07:37 PM PDT
by
nomad
To: Americanwolf
You know, you're sounding an awful lot President Bush, and that may get you in trouble....especially on this topic. ;~ )
I tend to agree with you. (That will get you in trouble, too) :~ )
259
posted on
09/03/2004 6:20:43 PM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: Former Military Chick
Why isn't there 10,000 posts on this topic? This entire incident is an outrage. I am so disgusted I could scream. The verminous media is not covering this. I guess everyone has been desensitized by the headchoppers.
260
posted on
09/03/2004 7:36:13 PM PDT
by
Selene
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