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Susan Estrich going Nuclear
creators.com ^ | September 1, 2004 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 09/03/2004 10:48:47 AM PDT by Roscoe Karns

My Democratic friends are mad as hell, and they aren't going to take it any more.

They are worried, having watched as another August smear campaign, full of lies and half-truths, takes its toll in the polls.

They are frustrated, mostly at the Kerry campaign, for naively believing that just because all the newspapers and news organizations that investigated the charges of the Swift Boat assassins found them to be full of lies and half-truths, they wouldn't take their toll. The word on the street is that Kerry himself was ready to fire back the day the story broke, but that his campaign, believing the charges would blow over if they ignored them, counseled restraint.

But most of all, activists Democrats are angry. As one who lived through an August like this, 16 years ago -- replete with rumors that were lies, which the Bush campaign claimed they had nothing to do with and later admitted they had planted -- I'm angry, too. I've been to this movie. I know how it works. Lies move numbers.

Remember the one about Dukakis suffering from depression after he lost the governorship? (Dukakis not crazy, more at 11.) We lost six points over that lie, planted by George W.'s close friend and colleague in the 1988 campaign, Lee Atwater. Or how about the one about Kitty Dukakis burning a flag at an antiwar demonstration, another out-and-out lie, which the Bush campaign denied having anything to do with, except that it turned out to have come from a United States senator via the Republican National Committee? Lee Atwater later apologized to me for that, too, on his deathbed. Did I mention that Lee's wife is connected to the woman running the Swift Boat campaign?

Never again, we said then.

Not again, Democrats are saying now.

What do you do, Democrats keep asking each other.

The answer is not pretty, but everyone knows what it is.

In 1988, in the days before the so-called independent groups, the candidate called the shots. To Michael Dukakis' credit, depending on how you look at it, he absolutely refused to get into the gutter, even to answer the charges. His theory, like that of some on the Kerry staff, was that answering such charges would only elevate them, give them more attention than they deserved. He thought the American people wanted to hear about issues, not watch a mud-wrestling match. In theory, he was right. In practice, the sad truth is that smears work -- that if you throw enough mud, some of it is bound to stick.

You can't just answer the charges. You can't just say it ain't so.

You have to fight fire with fire, mud with mud, dirt with dirt.

The trouble with Democrats, traditionally, is that we're not mean enough. Dukakis wasn't. I wasn't. I don't particularly like destroying people. I got into politics because of issues, not anger. But too much is at stake to play by Dukakis rules, and lose again.

That is the conclusion Democrats have reached. So watch out. Millions of dollars will be on the table. And there are plenty of choices for what to spend it on.

I'm not promising pretty.

What will it be?

Will it be the three, or is it four or five, drunken driving arrests that Bush and Cheney, the two most powerful men in the world, managed to rack up? (Bush's Texas record has been sealed. Now why would that be? Who seals a perfect driving record?)

After Vietnam, nothing is ancient history, and Cheney is still drinking. What their records suggest is not only a serious problem with alcoholism, which Bush but not Cheney has acknowledged, but also an even more serious problem of judgment. Could Dick Cheney get a license to drive a school bus with his record of drunken driving? (I can see the ad now.) A job at a nuclear power plant? Is any alcoholic ever really cured? So why put him in the most stressful job in the world, with a war going south, a thousand Americans already dead and control of weapons capable of destroying the world at his fingertips.

It has been said that in the worst of times, Kissinger gave orders to the military not to obey Nixon if he ordered a first strike. What if Bush were to fall off the wagon? Then what? Has America really faced the fact that we have an alcoholic as our president?

Or how about Dead Texans for Truth, highlighting those who served in Vietnam instead of the privileged draft-dodging president, and ended up as names on the wall instead of members of the Air National Guard. I'm sure there are some mothers out there who are still mourning their sons, and never made that connection. It wouldn't be so hard to find them.

Or maybe it will be Texas National Guardsmen for Truth, who can explain exactly what George W. Bush was doing while John Kerry was putting his life on the line. So far, all W. can do is come up with dental records to prove that he met his obligations. Perhaps with money on the table, or investigators on their trail, we will learn just what kind of wild and crazy things the president was doing while Kerry was saving a man's life, facing enemy fire and serving his country.

Or could it be George Bush's Former Female Friends for Truth. A forthcoming book by Kitty Kelly raises questions about whether the president has practiced what he preaches on the issue of abortion. As Larry Flynt discovered, a million dollars loosens lips. Are there others to be loosened?

Are you shocked? Not fair? Who said anything about fair? Remember President Dukakis? He was very fair. Now he teaches at Northeastern University. John Kerry has been very fair in dealing with the Swift Boat charges. That's why so many of my Democrat friends have decided to stop talking to the campaign, and start putting money together independently.

The arrogant little Republican boys who have been strutting around New York this week, claiming that they have this one won, would do well to take a step back. It could be a long and ugly road to November.

To find out more about Susan Estrich, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angrydems; borntodrool; crazedwitch; kooks; looneyleft; loser; panicattack; rotinhellsusan; sheisnotpretty; susanestrich; viciouswitch; wantsomecheese; withthatwhine
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To: Southack
In practice, the sad truth is that smears work -- that if you throw enough mud, some of it is bound to stick.

Yep, just ask Kerry's 527 and Michael Moore. They've been at it for a year.

The arrogant little Republican boys who have been strutting around New York this week, claiming that they have this one won, would do well to take a step back. It could be a long and ugly road to November.

LOL!!! They haven't stopped. Thanks for the laugh, Southack.

321 posted on 09/03/2004 4:33:08 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: scott7278
Ping
Unbelievable. I actually had respect for her because I thought she was intelligent, even though I did not agree with her most of the time, but this is horrible.

Accusing Cheney of being alcoholic. Isn't she a lawyer? Doesn't she realize what a legal mess she could be in?

I am simply speechless.
322 posted on 09/03/2004 4:34:08 PM PDT by surelyclintonsbaddream (Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteous sake, theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matt 5:10)
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To: Smartass
Your "nutshell" analysis of the GOP convention is worth repeating! Thanks! :^D


Susan Estrich has gone nuts. They were all expecting a flat Republican convention. Arnold stood everybody at attention, Zell Miller brought the ceiling down, Cheney pi$$ed Kerry off, and Bush calmly laid out his plan for the next four years.



323 posted on 09/03/2004 4:54:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Hey, Susan! Stop the whining! You look like an ugly sex-starved cobra! The more you whine with that wide mouth of yours the uglier you get! You belong in the same cage with Maureen Dowd! Quit defending Kerry for the lies about himself that he's been feeding into his little brain which have distorted his 'vision' of himself making him too big for his Boston britches! Why, he is beginning to look, and almost sounds, Irish!


324 posted on 09/03/2004 5:00:54 PM PDT by Diogenes
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To: Roscoe Karns
As Larry Flynt discovered, a million dollars loosens lipsbuys some creative stories.
325 posted on 09/03/2004 5:02:04 PM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: Roscoe Karns

Amazing article! She has totally flipped out!


326 posted on 09/03/2004 5:05:54 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens
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To: Roscoe Karns

Oh, well, Susan (who ran Dukakis's campaign), hasn't gotten over her wee mistake of telling Dukakis to hop right into that tank for the photo op. And why no mention of Kitty Dukakis's drinking problem? The Kitty litter jokes...empties strewn all over the state. Nasty piece by Estrich. She's done herself some serious harm. I loved the line about 'Dukakis not crazy. More at 11.' Hehehehe. Lee Atwater was a genius.


327 posted on 09/03/2004 5:07:24 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Roscoe Karns
I am gong to have to take issue with Krauthammer, therapy isn't going to be enough.
328 posted on 09/03/2004 5:10:02 PM PDT by snooker (Kerry BETRAYED our troops when he returned from Viet Nam, don't let him do it again.)
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To: kesg

Where did you get that picture. Did you steal it from the museum.? Are you the one? Hehehehehehe....


329 posted on 09/03/2004 5:16:00 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Roscoe Karns
There are so many dishonest, double-standard, breathlessly hyperbolic distortions in this piece its a disgrace to someone who holds such sway among a major political party as Froggy.

"Is any alcoholic ever really cured? So why put him in the most stressful job in the world, with a war going south, a thousand Americans already dead and control of weapons capable of destroying the world at his fingertips."

Unless she has completely abandoned any pretense of being a rational, thinking human being as opposed to just another mindless ideological zombie, her conscience obviously will not allow her to support Barack Obama, since there is a far greater liklihood that a heroin addiction will come back to re-claim its victim.

330 posted on 09/03/2004 5:17:36 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Stupid Is As Stupid Does -John Forrestgump Kerry)
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To: Shermy
"The "chatter" is they are putting great hopes in the 60 Minutes interview about the Nat'l Guard on Sunday."

Has the "news" show 60 Minutes promised to try and do the same for sKerry as they did for Clinton when the truth was about to sink his candidacy?

331 posted on 09/03/2004 5:19:43 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Stupid Is As Stupid Does -John Forrestgump Kerry)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Susan, speaking as a private citizen, I hope you think long and hard on this one.

If you thought Dukakis was merely a loss for you, associating with those on this 'dirty tricks' move could destroy you forever.

But I'm sure President Bush is saying, "Bring It On".


332 posted on 09/03/2004 5:22:46 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Leroy S. Mort
"It could be a long and ugly road to November. "

Is that supposed to be news?? Everyone knows there are Democrats running. 'Nuf said.

333 posted on 09/03/2004 5:24:01 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Stupid Is As Stupid Does -John Forrestgump Kerry)
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To: Roscoe Karns
The trouble with Democrats, traditionally, is that we're not mean enough.

Yeah, that's why there were 500,000 republicans in the street in Boston comparing Kerry to Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. Tying up traffic and disrupting official Dem events.

334 posted on 09/03/2004 5:26:47 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Roscoe Karns
As entertaining as this stuff is lately, I might as well cancel cable and stay on FR 24/7

Oh wait, I would miss racing and football. Never mind ;)

335 posted on 09/03/2004 5:27:18 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Virgnian by birth, Texan in my heart)
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To: kpp_kpp
"As Larry Flynt discovered, a million dollars loosens lipsbuys some creative stories"

Don't you just love the company these people keep...and take seriously!?

336 posted on 09/03/2004 5:28:18 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Stupid Is As Stupid Does -John Forrestgump Kerry)
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To: hershey
"Oh, well, Susan (who ran Dukakis's campaign), hasn't gotten over her wee mistake of telling Dukakis to hop right into that tank for the photo op"

SOP for Democrats...whine and blame someone else.

337 posted on 09/03/2004 5:29:46 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Stupid Is As Stupid Does -John Forrestgump Kerry)
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To: Roscoe Karns
So far, all W. can do is come up with dental records to prove that he met his obligations.

There is none so blind as one who will not see.

Remember President Dukakis?

Oh, she's living in some alternate reality. That explains alot.

To find out more about Susan Estrich,

Who in the world would want to do THAT ???

338 posted on 09/03/2004 5:32:59 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Virgnian by birth, Texan in my heart)
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To: okie01
If you think the attacks on Bush have been viscous to date

Na. Old motor oil. Now THAT's viscuous.

339 posted on 09/03/2004 5:34:33 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Virgnian by birth, Texan in my heart)
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To: psjones

Is it our imagination, or does Susan Estrich resemble nothing so much as a bobblehead doll? And when she gets really mad, the bobble-rate increases dramatically?


340 posted on 09/03/2004 5:35:02 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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