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Gay Houston Man Asks Courts for Spousal Rights to Claim Partner's Estate
Lubbock, TX, Avalanche-Journal ^ | 09-03-04 | AP

Posted on 09/03/2004 6:17:57 AM PDT by Theodore R.

Gay man asks court for spousal rights to claim partner's estate

Associated Press

HOUSTON (AP) — A gay man is asking a Harris County court to let him claim a portion of his partner's estate, just as a heterosexual spouse could.

But attorneys for the partner's son say Texas law does not recognize a probate claim brought by a gay partner. All the proceeds, they say, belong to the man's children.

William Ross says he and John Green, who died in January 2003, were partners for 71/2 years.

Green, 55, left no will saying who should get his town house, another home under renovation in the Houston suburb of Katy and stock worth $88,000.

But Ross claims Green made out a notarized deed about a month before he died, leaving him the Katy home.

Ross said Green told him to file the deed after he died, the Houston Chronicle reported Thursday.

"Just simple fairness would say that he would get something," said Ross' lawyer, Jerry Simoneaux.

But John Geddie, a lawyer for Green's son, Scott Goldstein, said in court papers that Green was ill and lacked the mental capacity to sign the deed.

Goldstein, 26, a South Florida businessman, sued Ross, alleging he had unlawfully laid claim to the Katy home, spent money that belonged to the estate and kept a 1996 Mustang.

Ross filed a countersuit, saying the court should apply a "marriage-like relationship doctrine" and view him as a surviving spouse.

But under Texas law, only a man and woman can marry. State lawmakers have made Texas signatory to the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibits recognition of same-sex marriages performed in other states. The law went into effect last year.

The case is scheduled to go to trial in October, but it may not make it that far. During pretrial motions, Harris County Probate Judge Russell Austin could prohibit Simoneaux from asserting spousal rights for Ross simply because he is not a spouse.

Geddie said he doesn't expect an appellate court or the state Supreme Court to grant Ross spousal rights if the case were to ever reach that level.

Few higher courts around the country have ruled in favor of gay people who have tried to assert spousal rights in probate cases.

The issue needs to be decided by state lawmakers, not the courts, Geddie said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: estatedispute; harrisco; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; houston; johngeddie; johngreen; scottgoldstein; williamross

1 posted on 09/03/2004 6:17:59 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

It was always about the money...


2 posted on 09/03/2004 6:22:50 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Theodore R.

BUMP


3 posted on 09/03/2004 6:29:58 AM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Theodore R.
The decedent could have arranged for the survivor to receive this much. The fact that he did not is pursuasive evidence that he did not intend to do so.
4 posted on 09/03/2004 6:32:14 AM PDT by Petronski (With what? Spitballs!?!)
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To: adamk75

Any two people can make out a will including a living will, designate guardians, designate the beneficiaries of an insurance policy, buy a house with survivor rights, etc.. I also believe the "family only" visitor rights policy in a hospital can be overcome.


6 posted on 09/03/2004 6:46:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: EdReform; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - missed this one. Continued attempts to dilute real families. Why should the "partner" of a dead homosexual have his estate if the deceased made no will? So laws mean nothing, tradition means nothing, the natural family which has been in existence since the beginning of humanity has no meaning.

Only the desires of homosexuals means anything.

Let me and Scripter know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


8 posted on 09/23/2004 10:36:50 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Islamo-Jihadis and Homosexual-Jihadis both want to destroy civilization.)
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To: little jeremiah
Only the desires of homosexuals means anything.

They certainly argue from that perspective...

9 posted on 09/23/2004 9:21:05 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: adamk75
When my partner and I moved in together, we were smart enough to get the house in both our names, not just in my name or his name.

Your legal analysis is apt. But are you on the right forum?

10 posted on 09/23/2004 9:22:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (<font type=1972 IBM>I <change typeballs>am<change typeballs> Buckhead)
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To: Petronski
Have these people never heard of wills. All of their excuses for wanting marriage can be obtained via contracts.
11 posted on 09/23/2004 9:23:52 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Not only wills necessarily, but certainly Revocable Living Trusts can accomplish property sharing better than any ratty, so-called marriage license. And since there's actually a 'marriage penalty,' they're not missing tax benefits. Durable Powers of Attorney and Living Wills can keep the 'spouse' in charge of the decisions regarding the ill partner.


12 posted on 09/23/2004 9:34:56 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: Petronski
The "unequal rights" argument is a smokescreen. They just want society to stamp approval on a deviant lifestyle choice.
13 posted on 09/23/2004 9:36:32 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Theodore R.

With the proper Revocable Living Trust, not only could the decedent have seen to it that this guy receive a share, he could have arranged it without probate. The fact that the decedent did NOT do this suggests he did not want to do so.


14 posted on 09/23/2004 9:37:01 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: adamk75
What jurisdictions do not recognize holographic wills?
15 posted on 09/23/2004 9:41:15 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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