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Union Labor Day Parade Organizer Rejects Republicans
Princeton Daily Clarion ^ | 9/2/04 | jebanks

Posted on 09/02/2004 11:00:17 AM PDT by jebanks

Sorry - didn't post the Source link before.

Email address of parade coordinator: Charlie Wyatt president@labordayassoc.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; freedomofassy; laborday; parade; rainonyourparade; union

1 posted on 09/02/2004 11:00:17 AM PDT by jebanks
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To: jebanks

I actually agree that politicians who don't agree with unions shouldn't take part in a union parade. That wouldn't stop them from seeking union support on issues where they might agree, or trying to persuade union members to support them on issues such as the war, or taxes, or economic issues.

There are pro-union Republicans, and there are a lot of union members who, though registered Dem, vote Republican. So we shouldn't simply write off the unions as permanent Dem territory. But if I wasn't pro-union, I would prefer not to take part in their parade.


2 posted on 09/02/2004 11:13:14 AM PDT by marron
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To: jebanks

Jerks. Once again the leadershipshills for a certain party.

-Bogey78o
Member of Comunication Workers of America Local 3410


3 posted on 09/02/2004 11:13:58 AM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Bogey78O
Your union dues at work...for the Democrats. Idaho recently passed a law that forbids union dues from being spent for political lobbying. The union member must write an explicit check that is designated for political activity and send it to the union. The Idaho Education Association was incensed at losing their means of coerced support of the Democrats by their membership.
4 posted on 09/02/2004 11:32:57 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: marron

Union goon bosses have no misgivings about spending dues collected from unwilling members, on candidates that those members not only disagree with but abhor.

Who the hell are these Socialist, communist union leaders to declare that only Unionized labor is allowed to parade in the celebration of Americans who earn their livelyhood with their hands and the sweat of their brows?

Labor day is a celebration of America and the Capitalist system that has made her great.

Labor unions should celebrate a day all their own, in remembrance of every manufacturer they priced out of existance or drove out of the country with their unreasonable demands. The actions by Unions is speedily exporting labor day to third world countries, where the wages for those who labor, isn't bankrupting Cooperations.


5 posted on 09/02/2004 11:57:07 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Was John Kerry's superior misunderstood when he said,"Give John the boot"? Boat is only an a away.)
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To: jebanks

I do my part for the economy and capitalism by working May 1st and the first Monday of September.


6 posted on 09/02/2004 12:06:07 PM PDT by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

You have written a great comment! Wow! Too bad the union goons will continue to hold workers' by their b***s and their wallets for decades to come! Maybe someday people will finally smarten up and demand a full refund of their union "dues," at the very least.


7 posted on 09/02/2004 12:39:50 PM PDT by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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To: albertp

Iam far from anti-union. At almost 72 years of age, I can remember the plight of those who labored before the advent of organised labor-those were far from the good old days.

It has been said that, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -I have seen that proven more than once.

Organized labor and genuine capitalist government, working hand in hand would absolutely represent the very best and purest of all worlds.

Early America was the purest form of Capitalism-the Soviet Union was the purest form of organised labor gone mad. The rational choice between these examples is obvious.


8 posted on 09/02/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Was John Kerry's superior misunderstood when he said,"Give John the boot"? Boat is only an a away.)
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To: marron

9 posted on 09/02/2004 1:24:57 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: F.J. Mitchell

I think you and I are in agreement where unions are concerned. I've had my run-ins with them and it hasn't always been pretty. The unions where I am now face a lot of competition and as a result are not bad to work with, but I have dealt with them elsewhere, where they have the power, and with few exceptions the working atmosphere always leans toward "combative".

Some union facilities are grim places, as a result of the hostility between the workers and the suits. Of course, all the fault is not on one side only, and you get into a chicken-egg question when you try to unravel the problem.

My impression in some cases is that companies that have unions often deserve them, in the same way that a smoker might "deserve" cancer. But while you might have brought cancer on yourself, you shouldn't accept your fate, you should do what you need to do to get healthy again, kick the cigs, heal the rift with your staff, and get rid of the cancer.

Life is too short, though, I figure, and if I can avoid dealing with unions in any way, I will.

Still, I have met and worked with some good guys, individually, and if I wouldn't hesitate to seek union support, or at least try to make my case to the rank and file. The union leadership is mostly a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, but the rank and file can occasionally be reached. Most of the guys I worked with supported Reagan, back in the day, and if its a question of national security these guys will often listen.

But overall I don't agree with unionism, though they ought to have the right to organize, and I would not want to be in a union parade. Its just my position.


10 posted on 09/02/2004 1:57:00 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Unconditional BUMP! of agreement.


11 posted on 09/02/2004 2:12:07 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Was John Kerry's superior misunderstood when he said,"Give John the boot"? Boat is only an a away.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
***Labor unions should celebrate a day all their own, in remembrance of every manufacturer they priced out of existance or drove out of the country with their unreasonable demands. The actions by Unions is speedily exporting labor day to third world countries, where the wages for those who labor, isn't bankrupting Cooperations***

BRAVO As a former HR for Open Shop, I have watched the unions collapse across the country due to pricing themselves out of the market. In their original concept, unions were a wonderful thing. And like some good things, greed entered the picture at the top most level and bled down. Union workers have got to put groceries on the table just like the rest of us. I applaud their knowledge of their crafts and most are hard-working Americans. I was raised in a union-strong family and it saddens me to see the direction their union leaders have taken them.

12 posted on 09/02/2004 3:55:42 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?".....Zell Miller)
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To: jebanks

Freedom of Assembly. 1st amendment.

The Republicans can throw their own parade.

Would christians want to be forced to let atheists march in their parade? Of course not.


13 posted on 09/02/2004 5:09:16 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: daybreakcoming

The direction the Unions have gone, saddens me too, for in many ways the early Unions freed a second group of people of many hues, just as surely as Lincoln freed the original slaves.

Unfortunately as the Unions grew more powerful and arrogant, they became the masters of the very people they had freed. A well paid slave is no less a slave than those who are owned as property.

I blame Democrat politicians for turning unions into monsters, by caving to their impossible and irresponsible demands, and actuall turning their heads when crimes were committed in the name of unionism. No controlling legal authority as Algore would say.


14 posted on 09/03/2004 9:47:39 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Was John Kerry's superior misunderstood when he said,"Give John the boot" and given a boat instead?)
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