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Innocents Abroad (images of terror)
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 2, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 09/02/2004 5:30:00 AM PDT by OESY

You might think that having watched workers leap to their deaths from the Twin Towers, nothing about Islamic terror could shock us.

...But... the images that converged on America yesterday scream out: The photograph of the dead girl hanging out the window of a suicide-bombed Israeli bus on newspaper front pages; the Web footage of a Nepalese worker in Iraq having his throat slit, one of 12 hostages killed; and the Russian children who at this writing are being used as human shields by terrorists (presumed to be Chechens) who stormed their school, killed some people and are threatening to kill 50 children for any member of their group harmed.

An Israeli girl. A group of Nepalese guestworkers. Russian schoolchildren, their parents and teachers. What unites them is not simply that they were all murdered in the name of some Islamic cause but that they all define innocence. Maybe it is possible to believe, as many of those protesting outside the Republican convention apparently do, that even in the face of such crimes the threats to world peace are President Bush, Dick Cheney and Halliburton.

We say: Look at the pictures. Look at the children who die not because they are collateral damage but because they are targets. And ask yourself the uncomfortable but defining question of this campaign: Is this the kind of enemy that requires a "more sensitive" war?

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chechens; nepalese; ossetia; terror
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1 posted on 09/02/2004 5:30:00 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Islam is an evil death cult that needs to be stamped out. It is incompatible with civilization, period.


2 posted on 09/02/2004 5:34:49 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: OESY
My son told me about the picture of the bombed bus, does anyone know where to find a link to it?

When I worked in the news photos department of a major daily newspaper I used to spend my spare time perusing the AP picture wire. They move hundreds, often over a thousand, images a day. They move quite a few that are just too graphic for most papers. They always have a warning before the image is displayed that it's graphic. I used to collect the ones that showed injuries to the Jewish people from the suicide bombings. Unbelievable images. I can't put my hands on the right now, but I'll look around. After 9/11 they had a lot that were not for publication. I have one from 9/11 that is really sad, but very much a reminder of what we're up against. I don't want to post it here but will be happy to send a link to it for anyone that want's to view it. It's a hand, just a hand, in the street. We have GOT to remind Americans of what we're dealing with or they will simply go back to their day to day lives until the next event.
3 posted on 09/02/2004 5:37:41 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: jwpjr

I believe it was front page, NYT.


4 posted on 09/02/2004 5:41:57 AM PDT by angkor
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To: OESY
When the good guys fight, there is very little collateral damage (women, children, noncombatants). But what there is, is blasted across the world on everybody's front page.

When the terrorists fight, they actually target the women, children and noncombatants. But it's not emphasized in the papers. "Freedom Fighters stage attack, IDF responds with massive force, civilian casualties high."

I hate the media.

5 posted on 09/02/2004 5:43:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: angkor

Yes, you are correct. It had been quite a while since I looked at it and I confused it with the photos from AP and AFP. Oops! Good catch, thanks!

JP


6 posted on 09/02/2004 6:03:20 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: OESY

I get the feeling that the Muslims want a war with everybody. Their PR campaign is working.


7 posted on 09/02/2004 6:04:12 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I hate the media.

The one point that has been driven home to me during this election cycle is that most of the media is lying to me.

Not being biased, not misrepresenting things, not filtering the news, out right lying.

8 posted on 09/02/2004 6:05:09 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour

Yup. There was an article posted the other day by Ceci Connolly (Washington Post) which twisted economic numbers and statistics in a terrible way. I pointed out on the thread that I used to work with Ceci Connolly at a smaller newspaper. She is very bright. The way she misrepresented the economic numbers could only be done by a very dumb person, or a liar. And as I say, Ceci is very bright ...


9 posted on 09/02/2004 6:13:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: Kenton

YES!

can a billion people be wrong? Heck yeah! A billion Chinese were wrong about Communism.

There is no reason that Islam must go on forever, or even for another 20 years, except as an obscure cult.

If Scientology can (correctly) be branded a dangerous cult - we must ask if Islam is better, or worse?


10 posted on 09/02/2004 6:17:22 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: eno_
If Scientology can (correctly) be branded a dangerous cult - we must ask if Islam is better, or worse?

And if the Democrats considered a bunch of fundamantalists living on the prairie outside of Waco, Texas so dangerous that they sent tanks after them, why are they so protective of these Islamic cultists who have declared war on western civilization?

Speaking only for myself, I'm a hell of alot more worried about the Wahhabist mosques dotting our country than I ever was about the Branch Davidians...

11 posted on 09/02/2004 6:30:42 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: ClearCase_guy
And as I say, Ceci is very bright ...

Yep. The technique the irritates me the most is to site a study of 12 people showing a linkage between Republicans and homelessness, or whatever, then say "and while correlation doesn't imply causation, blah, blah, blah, blah [ten minute justification of how Republicans cause homelessness]."

The people generating this kind of propaganda know damn well what they are doing, and just assume that I am too stupid to know also.

I tell my wife, whenever you hear the word "link", in a news report, look at the person who said it. He's is lying to you, and he knows it. If he didn't, he wouldn't have used that particular word.

12 posted on 09/02/2004 6:39:54 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: Kenton

Right on that one, too. Branch Davidians are heretical Seventh Day Adventists (i.e. Davidians). Oooooooo! Scary!


13 posted on 09/02/2004 6:40:26 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: OESY
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...

Available only to subscribers.
14 posted on 09/02/2004 6:42:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: TigersEye
I get the feeling that the Muslims want a war with everybody.

You must be a slow learner. (PLEASE excuse that personal attack!)

Or, more likely, you have an unrealistic belief that other people share the same values that you do.

Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but they don't!
15 posted on 09/02/2004 7:46:20 AM PDT by RonHolzwarth ("History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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To: RonHolzwarth

I'm not a slow learner you are just a dim bulb. Here ... /sarcasm ... does that up the wattage for you?


16 posted on 09/02/2004 7:55:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: TigersEye

Let's head directly to the "more likely" part, OK?


17 posted on 09/02/2004 8:10:07 AM PDT by RonHolzwarth ("History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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To: RonHolzwarth

Let's skip that and go to 'most likely.' Most likely your bulb is about burned out and won't ever be any brighter than a half-dead glow worm.


18 posted on 09/02/2004 8:13:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: TigersEye; RonHolzwarth

Gentlemen, let's save it for the muslims. We're all on the same side here yes ?


19 posted on 09/02/2004 10:03:40 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Centurion2000
Gentlemen, let's save it for the muslims. We're all on the same side here yes ?

I don't want to lump all Muslims together! I am not sure I am qualified to make that judgment. What I want is for everyone on the planet to know HaShem!

I am NOT AT ALL SURE that the Muslims do NOT know Adonai, but I do think that many have been led astray!
20 posted on 09/02/2004 12:43:07 PM PDT by RonHolzwarth ("History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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