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Hurricane Frances : 2004-09-01 (New Thread)
Various | 2004-09-01 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:15:34 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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Welcome to Wednesday's Hurricane Frances news-twist !

It looks like a Melbourne Landfall after all, once again (to Section9's worst fears) churning it's way North along the Coast Highway ...



Excellent Hurricane Frances Websites:

HURRICANE ALLEY

U.S. Weather Observers






Patton@Bastogne
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TOPICS: Announcements; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: South Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: frances; hurricane; hurricanefrances
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To: Law is not justice but process

I still think it will curve a bit north than the track now. I do think it's odd that the predominate map has it going from a 4 (currently 140 mph winds) when it hits to a tropical depression (winds under 39 mph) in a 24 hr period. Is that normal?


241 posted on 09/01/2004 9:00:41 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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To: groanup

From the last update:

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 80 MILES...130 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 185 MILES...295 KM.

That is a diamiter of 370 miles, stay home.


242 posted on 09/01/2004 9:01:34 AM PDT by travelinman_53
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To: Hoodlum91
I do think it's odd that the predominate map has it going from a 4 (currently 140 mph winds) when it hits to a tropical depression (winds under 39 mph) in a 24 hr period. Is that normal?

Over land, yes, a storm can weaken that quickly.

243 posted on 09/01/2004 9:02:50 AM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: FlJoePa
I'm pretty sure under emergency conditions, the state suspends the collection of tolls on all toll roads.

The Sunshine Skyway Bridge suspended tolls before and after Charley.

244 posted on 09/01/2004 9:03:32 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: billorites
This guy had to be Television's first attempt to sneak the gay homosexual culture into our living rooms..even as a child, I knew something wasn't quite right with this character.
245 posted on 09/01/2004 9:04:09 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: weatherFrEaK

Thanks


246 posted on 09/01/2004 9:05:06 AM PDT by rang1995
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To: travelinman_53
That is a diamiter of 370 miles

Pretty much the length of mainland Florida.......

247 posted on 09/01/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Lunatic Fringe
Actually, AST is more likely Atlantic Standard Time, which is the time zone for the eastern Caribbean.

See this link for a map:

http://www.worldtimezone.com/image/worldtimezone-copyright-image/worldtimezone-copyright-

248 posted on 09/01/2004 9:10:55 AM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, XO USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: Hoodlum91
In my experience they peter out quickly over land, and from Category 4 to depression in 24 hours is a bit fast but conceivable. The source of energy for hurricanes is warm air saturated with moisture and the source for such air is a warm ocean. When cut off from that source by being over land - even relatively flat land like Florida - the storm looses its punch quickly. As Hugo among others proved, however, if a storm is moving quickly it can remain a hurricane well inland.
249 posted on 09/01/2004 9:12:34 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Dog Gone; section9; et al
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Hurricane Alley 12:30 PM Update with Florida Map for Cross-Reference purposes.






Patton@Bastogne
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250 posted on 09/01/2004 9:21:10 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

That looks further to the west than the last HA update, doesn't it?

Off to take my daughter to lunch - will check back a bit later.


251 posted on 09/01/2004 9:23:54 AM PDT by Gabz (Kerry's favorite hobby depends on which way the wind is blowing......... Leno)
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To: RipSawyer

I don't live in Myrtle Beach, but I sure listen to the locals about hurricanes when I am there. A number of years ago (forgot which hurricane) the building where I have a condo lost one "stack" of units. The concrete and steel superstructure of the building held, but 13 floors of condos were simply blown out - nothing left but the framework of the building.


252 posted on 09/01/2004 9:26:04 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: weatherFrEaK; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

http://www.cira.colostate.edu/RAMM/Rmsdsol/RSOMAIN.HTML

Click on the GOES East visible floater loop.


253 posted on 09/01/2004 9:29:50 AM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: All
Don't forget that your hot water heater tank is another source of water! If you lose power, turn off the valve at the supply, turn off the breaker (yes, counter-intuitive but you never know when it might come back on), and you can draw water from the drain valve. It's a good idea to have some hose ready and to flush out the sediment now.

Also, put some plastic wrap over your tub drains and fill them with water. Have a bucket handy and you then have a supply with which to flush the toilets.

254 posted on 09/01/2004 9:30:15 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

Excellent! Bookmarked.


255 posted on 09/01/2004 9:33:33 AM PDT by weatherFrEaK (Who, me?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; All
Hey guys and gals...It looks as if the EC is going to get this storm. That is evident. Where is the BIG question. If you are making preparations please remember one thing. There are elderly folks out there who may need your help BEFORE the storm approaches. Some of them don't have family nearby. You may be the one to make the difference in whether they survive or not.

One thing I heard this AM. If you used a generator after Charley now is a good time to change the oil. Another tip I have read is that scoopable cat litter in a bucket makes a good toilet in a pinch, if there's no water to be used for flushing. Also have on hand plenty of bug spray. If you plan on staying put, make sure you put on your shoes. As the storm approaches there may be glass broken and you don't want a nasty cut requiring stitches. Also, you can't stress the need to store water. A large clean thick contractor's trash bag will hold up to 55 gallons of water. Fill several of them.

I am just trying to think of the odd things that aren't normally mentioned. Hope it helps someone.

256 posted on 09/01/2004 9:34:27 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

The Bahamas are going to be completely destroyed in less than 16 hrs...God Help Them.


257 posted on 09/01/2004 9:38:45 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: Hoodlum91

The most important thing to look at besides track and wind speed...is the fact that IT WILL BE SITTING ON LAND FOR OVER 24 HOURS IN FLORIDA ALONE!!!!!!!!! Not a quick moving storm at all.


258 posted on 09/01/2004 9:43:00 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: looney tune

My elderly father and his wife (who has alzheimers) live in Orlando. They were w/o electricity for 7.5 days after Charley. Dad is hoping the hurricane will change course and go out to sea. One can hope.


259 posted on 09/01/2004 9:49:38 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

True. And as Richmond learned with Gaston, slow or not moving is a big problem. Richmond got 12 inches of rain in 3-4 hours because of Gaston deciding to stay a while.

Just because you aren't on the coast, doesn't mean that you can't have serious damage from this girl!


260 posted on 09/01/2004 9:50:07 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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