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President Bush Refers to the Bush "Liberty" Doctrine on Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh radio show at 12:30 ^ | 31 August 2004 | President Bush

Posted on 08/31/2004 11:06:47 AM PDT by AFPhys

President Bush stayed on message when Rush Limbaugh asked about his "win the war on terror" comment. He stated that the "long term solution is to liberate" the oppressed countries. He spoke of the "transformational power of freedom". These are main tenets of his Liberty Doctrine, which are fleshed out here: President Bush Delivers Graduation Speech at West Point as well as The National Security Strategy of the United States of America. President Bush is serious in stating that the solution to terrorism is to create a better atmosphere for democracy and liberty for all in the world.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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I would like to see the President start to refer to these documents explicitly.
1 posted on 08/31/2004 11:06:47 AM PDT by AFPhys
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To: Howlin; Peach

Bush interview is being re-played on Limbaugh right now.


2 posted on 08/31/2004 11:07:38 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

Thanks.


3 posted on 08/31/2004 11:08:39 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); AFPhys; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; backhoe; bamafour; bevlar; ...

Bush on limbaugh now: 1:10 PM EST


4 posted on 08/31/2004 11:09:12 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Peach

I hope Rush posts a transcript: Here's what I was able to get on the second time around ...

"The long term solution is to spread freedom"

Used Japan as an example.

"the same thing is going to happen in Iraq"

"...that's what I mean by the transformational power of liberty"

"...as long as we stay strong and committed."

"Libya no longer has nuclear weapons..."

"... my opponents saw a threat in Iraq and voted to remove Hussein by force if necessary."

"... we've got to remove threats before they FULLY materialize."

"... one of the most dangerous parts of this new war is that weapons of mass destruction would make 9/11 pale in comparison."

Stated the threat he saw due to terrorists Abu Nidal, Zarkawi (sp?) and others in Iraq, as well as Hussein funding suicide bombers.

"Our troops will be in Iraq as long as they are needed, and not one day longer."

"Evidently Rudy didn't heed his warnings [to not talk about 9/11 at the convention]"




5 posted on 08/31/2004 11:18:51 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys; JulieRNR21; Jeff Head; JohnHuang2; Squantos; Dubya; saquin; hosepipe; blackie; ...

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Ben Franklin


6 posted on 08/31/2004 11:20:57 AM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: jim macomber

It's very telling that in 1992, when Clinton was "hot," he gave n acceptance speech in which he mentioned some catch phrase---I forget what, exactly, maybe "family values" or "working Americans"--11 times. But what was interesting is that he didn't use the word "liberty" once.


7 posted on 08/31/2004 11:25:38 AM PDT by LS
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To: AFPhys

If anybody lives in the Dallas/Fort Worth area...or anywhere else where Rush is on a 1 hour delay.....Bush will be on Rush in 15 minutes......unless the editing is off.


8 posted on 08/31/2004 11:28:27 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: jim macomber; LS

From the West Point speech:

" History has also issued its call to your generation. In your last year, America was attacked by a ruthless and resourceful enemy. You graduate from this Academy in a time of war, taking your place in an American military that is powerful and is honorable. Our war on terror is only begun, but in Afghanistan it was begun well. (Applause.)

"I am proud of the men and women who have fought on my orders. America is profoundly grateful for all who serve the cause of freedom, and for all who have given their lives in its defense. This nation respects and trusts our military, and we are confident in your victories to come. (Applause.)

"This war will take many turns we cannot predict. Yet I am certain of this: Wherever we carry it, the American flag will stand not only for our power, but for freedom. (Applause.) Our nation's cause has always been larger than our nation's defense. We fight, as we always fight, for a just peace -- a peace that favors human liberty. We will defend the peace against threats from terrorists and tyrants. We will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers. And we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open societies on every continent.

"Building this just peace is America's opportunity, and America's duty. From this day forward, it is your challenge, as well, and we will meet this challenge together. (Applause.) You will wear the uniform of a great and unique country. America has no empire to extend or utopia to establish. We wish for others only what we wish for ourselves -- safety from violence, the rewards of liberty, and the hope for a better life.

"In defending the peace, we face a threat with no precedent. Enemies in the past needed great armies and great industrial capabilities to endanger the American people and our nation. The attacks of September the 11th required a few hundred thousand dollars in the hands of a few dozen evil and deluded men. All of the chaos and suffering they caused came at much less than the cost of a single tank. The dangers have not passed. This government and the American people are on watch, we are ready, because we know the terrorists have more money and more men and more plans. "

This was a great speech. The NSS I linked above is a technical document that portrays exactly WHY preemptive techniques have to be used, and in what way and in which circumstances.
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9 posted on 08/31/2004 11:30:42 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

Transcripts of today's show will be posted at 6:30-7:00 EDT tonight on the website.


10 posted on 08/31/2004 11:32:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Thank you for that comment. I didn't know when that might occur. The President gives a great interview, and he ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS.
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11 posted on 08/31/2004 11:39:40 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys; Grampa Dave; holdonnow
You know, when Rush says he cannot understand why the President's vision is met with such cynicism, derision, etc., by the media and the left, I can understand and explain it.

When I defeated a big-government leftist for a local government elective position, I met with the former incumbent for lunch. I told him my intention toward him and everyone that had supported him in a bitter election battle, as well as the rest of the people in the jurisdiction was... Do no harm!

At a subsequent meeting that was of his supporters, I was fortunate enough to have a "mole" in the audience that reported him relating the contents of my quotes at the luncheon. His final comment was typical of leftist Demonicrats... "The trouble with the newly elected conservative is... HE's NOT THE DOCTOR!!!"

So as usual, it's not the message they despise... It's the fact that they fervently believe THEY should be the ONLY messengers allowed... EVER!!!

They believe President Bush is not only an illegitimate President, they believe he's an illegitimate MESSENGER!!!

12 posted on 08/31/2004 11:45:47 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Success is still the best revenge... In the land of the free... Because of the brave!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

It is time we get ugly and force these bastards back into their snakepits when they lose elections.

We will get plenty of practice doing that after GW hammers Kerry this November. We will not believe the BS that they will try.


13 posted on 08/31/2004 11:49:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: AFPhys; All
Here is the transcript

Rush's Interview with President George W. Bush

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND WILL BE UPDATED.

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Ladies and gentlemen, we have been saying President Bush will join us at 1:45 this afternoon, about 12 minutes from now, but he can't wait. He's so excited, he's here now. President George W. Bush, welcome to the program, sir. Nice to have you with us.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: Thank you, Rush. It's an honor to talk to you.

RUSH: Where are you right now?

THE PRESIDENT: I am in Des Moines, Iowa --

RUSH: And you are going...?

THE PRESIDENT: -- just came from Nashville, Tennessee. I'm on my way to a big rally with some of our farmers and then I'm going to go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, where I will be participating in the convention from afar. After all, the First Lady Bush will be addressing the nation, and I want to welcome her to the podium.

RUSH: By the way, let's talk about the American Legion convention. I watched your speech there this morning, and the Democrats are harping on something you said yesterday, or that was aired yesterday on the Today Show with Matt Lauer about the -- your comment about we can't win it, meaning the war on terror. I think I know what you meant but John Edwards is out there saying (paraphrased), "A-ha! Bush is now flip-flopping, and we, John Kerry and I, we can win this, and Bush is..." What did you mean by this?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate you bringing that up. Listen, I should have made my point more clear about what I was saying, you know, what I meant. What I meant was that this is not a conventional war. It is a different kind of war. We're fighting people who have got a dark ideology who use terrorists, terrorism, as a tool. They're trying to shake our conscience. They're trying to shake our will, and so in the short run the strategy has got to be to find them where they lurk. I tell people all the time, "We will find them on the offense. We will bring them to justice on foreign lands so we don't have to face them here at home," and that's because you cannot negotiate with these people and in a conventional war there would be a peace treaty or there would be a moment where somebody would sit on the side and say we quit. That's not the kind of war we're in, and that's what I was saying. The kind of war we're in requires, you know, steadfast resolve, and I will continue to be resolved to bring them to justice, but as well as to spread liberty -- and this is one of the interesting points of the debate, Rush, is that, you know, I believe societies can be transformed because of liberty, and I believe that Iraq and Afghanistan will be free nations, and I believe that those free nations right there in the heart of the Middle East will begin to transform that region into a more hopeful place, which in itself will be a detriment to the ability to these terrorists to recruit -- and that's what I was saying. I probably needed to be a little more articulate.

RUSH: Well, it's like saying that they're all over the world. You're not fighting a country here, a series of countries. You're fighting a movement that will hide out anywhere it can, and you're always going to have a renegade terrorist. Even if, let's say, we wipe out Al-Qaeda. There's some other group or individual and they spring up and blow up a bomb somewhere. That's always going to happen because it always has.

THE PRESIDENT: Right. Really what I was saying to Lauer was, is that this is not the kind of war where you sit down and sign a peace treaty. A totally different kind of war. But we will win it. Your listeners have got to know that I am, I know we'll win it, but we're going to have to be resolved and firm, and we can't doubt what we stand for, and the long-term solution is to spread freedom. I love to tell the story, Rush, about a meeting with Prime Minister Koizumi. He's my friend. He's the prime minister of Japan. It wasn't all that long ago that may dad your dad and others dads were fighting against the Japanese, but because after World War II we believed that Japan could self-govern and could be democratic in its own fashion, Japan is no longer an enemy; it's a friend, and so I sit down with him to help resolve issues like the North Korean peninsula in other words. We're working together to keep the peace. The same thing is going to happen in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that's when I say the transformational power of liberty. That's what I'm talking about.

RUSH: Well, I remember you also said in one of your first speeches after the 9/11 attacks that this is going to go maybe beyond one or even two terms that you might serve.

THE PRESIDENT: I think so. On the other hand, we're making great progress. Today at the Legion I said we're winning the war on terror, and we will win the war on terror. There's no doubt in my mind, so long as this country stays resolved and strong and determined, and by winning, I just would remind your listeners that Pakistan is now an ally in the war on terror. Saudi now takes Al-Qaeda seriously, and they're after the leadership. Libya is no longer got weapons of mass destruction. Afghanistan? I don't know if you've discussed this on your program, but there are over ten million people who have registered to vote in Afghanistan, which is a phenomenal statistic when you think about it, and then of course Iraq is now heading toward elections as well, and it is. We're making progress.

RUSH: Let me ask you --

THE PRESIDENT: Go ahead.

RUSH: Let me ask you about Iraq, because as I look at your opponent and his party, it seems to me that they want to separate the war on terror as something that's localized in Afghanistan, and that Iraq is a rogue war that you started for whatever reasons they've concocted, and they are trying to make the American people believe there's no linkage whatsoever --

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

RUSH: -- between Iraq and the war on terror. Now, I've heard you not only today but in previous addresses that you've made. There clearly is a linkage in your mind. Could you explain to the American people who are listening to this program, what is that linkage, war on terror to Iraq, why we're there? What your vision is for the war in Iraq? In your second term, what do you hope –

THE PRESIDENT: Sure.

RUSH: -- happens and when?

THE PRESIDENT: First, let me address my opponents. They all, they saw a threat in Iraq, and they voted to remove Saddam Hussein by force if necessary. So, in other words, you know, John Kerry looked at the same intelligence I saw and saw a threat and voted for the authorization of force.

RUSH: Before he voted against it?

THE PRESIDENT: Pardon me?

RUSH: Before he voted against it?

THE PRESIDENT: (Laughing.) Well, that was -- you're talking about the actually funding of troops.

RUSH: Right.

THE PRESIDENT: In my judgment made a big mistake by saying yes, we can use force but we're not going to provide the troops the equipment necessary to fight the war.

RUSH: That's what it was.

THE PRESIDENT: Now, Iraq. You see, one of the lessons of September the 11th is that we gotta deal with threats before they fully materialize, and we saw a threat in Iraq. I say "we." The Congress saw a threat, I saw a threat and the United Nations Security Council saw a threat. In other words, the world took a look and said, "Saddam is a threat," and here's why they thought he was a threat. One, he used weapons of mass destruction -- and one of the most dangerous part of this new war is that the enemy were ever to acquire the capacity to use weapons of mass destruction it would make September 11th, you know, pale in comparison, and so we saw that threat. Secondly, he had ties to terrorists. Abu Nidal was housed in Iraq, his organization. He was the guy that killed Leon Klinghoffer. He was a known terrorist. Zarqawi -- who's now, you know, the person beheading people in Iraq today -- was in and out of Baghdad and Iraq, as were members of his organization. So he had terrorist ties.

As a matter of fact, not only did he have terrorist ties, he used to subsidize families of these suicide bombers, which is a terrorist act. Thirdly, he invaded his neighbors. Fourthly, he was an enemy of this country, and we had been to war with him once. He had invaded others in the neighborhood. He was a source of great instability. So I saw a threat, and given the lessons of September the 11th, we decided to remove him from power, having tried diplomacy. See, I think it's very important for your listeners to know, Rush, that the commander-in-chief ought to try all avenues of diplomacy prior to committing troops and we did that, and so I'm sitting in the Oval Office, and I've seen a threat. I now see that he's ignoring the demands of the free world he had no intention of disarming, as a matter of fact was systematically deceiving inspectors, and so I made the decision -- a very difficult decision.

The way forward, which was to remove him from power -- and, by the way, we weren't "alone" going in. As a matter of fact, I talked to Tony Blair this morning which I do on a regular basis, and Tony Blair saw the same threat, and so now the way ahead is this. We will work with Prime Minister Allawi to enable a political process to develop. In other words, we'll provide as much security as we can to help a political process forward which means elections in January, but more importantly we will train Iraqis so that they are capable of providing their own security, and that's an important ingredient about enabling me to say that troops will be there as long as necessary, but not a day longer -- and by that I mean when the Iraqis are capable of defending themselves and as the political process emerges, we will then be in a position to say the mission has been completed, which is a democratic Iraq, an ally in the war on terror and a source of stability in a part of the world that needs stability and freedom.

RUSH: A couple quick things. I know your time is short. The Democrats -- one voice I know for sure Elliott Spitzer, the attorney general of New York, warned, literally warned the Republicans not to mention the September 11th attacks at the convention.

THE PRESIDENT: (Laughing.) Well, they -- evidently Rudy didn't heed his warnings.

RUSH: (Laughing.) I was going to ask you, because they did. They, of course, were allowed to do what they did on their first right. I thought it was tastefully done last night --

THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you. I tell you, I'm traveling with John McCain; I thought he gave a great speech. Look, September 11th is a defining moment in our history, and it's certainly a defining moment in my presidency, and the question is whether or not we've learned the lessons. Three quick lessons. I've already given you one lesson that I think is important to remember. We deal with threats before they fully materialize. What that means is that in the old days you could see a threat, and you may deal with it or you may not deal with it, but you never thought a threat would come to harm us. Those days are gone. Secondly, if the United States ever says something we better mean it, and I say, "If you harbor a terrorist, you're just as guilty as a terrorist." When you say something you gotta act on it -- and by acting on it not only is Afghanistan free, but the world now knows that we mean what we say, which makes the world a more peaceful place in my judgment, and the third thing is that these killers are people you can't negotiate with. You've got to find them. So that's why I told Matt Lauer what I told him? It's an unconventional war. In other words, these are people that, you know, they use terrorism as a tool to support and promote their ideology of hatred. And, you know, we must bring 'em to justice, and we are. Thursday night I will tell the people that three-quarters of the known Al-Qaeda leadership has been brought to justice. And we're still obviously on the hunt.

RUSH: Okay, final point. I remember your campaign for president, 2000. You mentioned some specific things that you would do if you were elected. One of them was tax cuts, and there were a couple other things. You talked about Social Security reform -- and after you were elected and inaugurated, you set out to proceed to do those things, and I remember reading that the Democrats were surprised that you were actually doing what you said you were gonna do. Now, my last question: are you going to trick them again and actually do in your second term what you're going to campaign on doing? And what is that? What is your agenda the second term?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I'm going to save somewhat for the speech if you don't mind.

RUSH: All right.

THE PRESIDENT: I mean, you're a good friend and I would hate to let you down, but --

RUSH: I understand. I understand totally. But I had to ask.

THE PRESIDENT: Having said that -- no, no, I understand completely. Look, what we're going to do is we're going to have government -- look, the world has changed. No longer does just one person, generally a dad, work for the same company and receive a pension plan or health care from the same company. People change jobs. Women are in the workforce and therefore the role of government ought to be to enable people to be able to live in a changing world. Now, that means promoting policies that say you can own your own health care account like health savings accounts, promoting policies that says younger workers should be able to take some of their own money and set up a personal savings account as a part of Social Security, so they can call it their own. They can take it from job to job and they could pass it on to another generation, and so those are the kinds of things I'm going to address. It's how government doesn't give orders to people, but how government can enable people to realize dreams in a changing world.

RUSH: Mr. President, thanks so much for your time. It's always an honor and a thrill to speak to you --

THE PRESIDENT: How you feeling? Most importantly.

RUSH: I've never been happier. I'm never better, never better -- and you sound like you're ebullient as well. It's great to hear. I'm getting all kinds of comments about the optimism that was on display last night at the convention. People are very, very upbeat and ecstatic. People wish you the best and they're praying for you every day.

THE PRESIDENT: That's the most important thing people can do is pray, and I appreciate that. I tell you the crowds we're seeing out here are really big. I believe something is going on here in the hinterlands, in the heartland that is going to mean a victory come November, but I want to assure you I'm going to keep working and keep laying out my vision, so people understand exactly why I've made the decisions I've made.

RUSH: Well, make no mistake about something. I can't speak for everybody, but I can speak for quite a few. They love you out there, Mr. President, and they only wish you the best.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, sir.

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14 posted on 08/31/2004 11:57:45 AM PDT by Kaslin (Kerry.....Going down, down down)
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To: Grampa Dave
Dave, I know you (and most Freepers) want a Sherman-esque approach to the Dems. It is precisely the opposite that has given Bush the lead. I'm convinced that he is now reaping the benefits of public opinion based on the good will he extended to the Dems when they only have attacked him for months.

Without question, the Swifties have helped tremendously. But if one believes that Bible---that in by "praying for your enemies, you heap burning coals on their heads"---then that is exactly what has happened here by Bush remaining civil.

15 posted on 08/31/2004 11:58:33 AM PDT by LS
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To: AFPhys

I listened to the interview, and I am so very heartened by what the President says that I wish the dems could get the p-nut butter out of their ears and understand a simple and honest man.


16 posted on 08/31/2004 12:00:27 PM PDT by niobe527
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To: Kaslin

WHOA... I was just about to hit "Post" when I looked and saw you already had posted the transcript. Thanks.
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17 posted on 08/31/2004 12:03:09 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: LS

You read me wrong.

I want GW to continue taking the high road like he did during his interview today.

We can get into the trenches and fight the Kerrorists. GW since he was sworn in has brought honor and dignity back to the office.

By hammering Kerry, I mean defeating Kerry this November like the defeat Mondale received.

I am a Christian too, and I believe "God helps those who help themselves!"

The best way I can fight in the trenches is to donate to the SwiftVets on a regular basis.

https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets


18 posted on 08/31/2004 12:06:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: niobe527

My daughter just asked if the democrats use creamy peanut butter or crunchy...

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What do you think?
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19 posted on 08/31/2004 12:07:56 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

You're welcome


20 posted on 08/31/2004 12:09:39 PM PDT by Kaslin (Kerry.....Going down, down down)
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