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Swift Boat Vets Ad Attacks Kerry Denouncing Medals
NewsMax .com ^ | 8/31/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 08/31/2004 9:54:06 AM PDT by kattracks

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are launching another television ad attacking John Kerry.

The new ad features John Kerry in the 1970s renouncing the medals he won during the Vietnam war.

The Swift Boat group is spending $400,000 to put this ad on in Florida.

The group is also spending another $800,000 on nationwide cable TV featuring their previous ad that had former POWs accusing Kerry of betraying the United States.

Here are the details of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth 30-second ad:

Images: American flag, Washington Monument, soldiers marching, veterans saluting.

Then a scraggly, bearded and long-haired young man is shown raising his arm in a clenched-fist gesture and angrily hurling medals behind him.

Scenes of Kerry in an interview and testifying before Congress.

Announcer: "Symbols. They represent the best things about America. Freedom, valor, sacrifice. Symbols, like the heroes they represent, are meant to be respected. But some didn’t share that respect and turned their backs on their brothers.”

Kerry Speaking: ". . . and renounce the symbols which this country gives . . . and that was the medals themselves . . . I gave back, I can’t remember . . . six, seven, eight, nine.”

Announcer: "How can the man who renounced his country’s symbols now be trusted?”



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; kerry; medals; medaltossing; sbv; swiftboatveterans
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1 posted on 08/31/2004 9:54:06 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

ouch

:)


2 posted on 08/31/2004 9:55:26 AM PDT by escapefromboston (the real Green Lantern Returns!)
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To: All

If you want to see go here... .http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.mov


3 posted on 08/31/2004 9:56:43 AM PDT by BushCheney4America
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To: kattracks
Uhh, yeah, but.....ummm...I was RECYCLING them! That's it! I was doing my bit for the environment! Saving metal!

THAT's the ticket!

4 posted on 08/31/2004 9:58:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: BushCheney4America

The medals were easy for Kerry to renounce since he knows, in his heart of hearts, that he did not earn them.

He worked the system to get the medals and then used the medals to work the system after the war.

Now he's attempting to use them to get elected president. He's never had any respect for the medals and what they signify and never will.


5 posted on 08/31/2004 9:58:43 AM PDT by 5by5
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To: kattracks

Kerry never threw his medals and ribbons away.
He has duplicates and revised citations to prove it


6 posted on 08/31/2004 9:59:20 AM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: kattracks

The question in the last line doesn't make any logical sense, but I think this will probably be very effective on an emotional level.


7 posted on 08/31/2004 10:03:38 AM PDT by uberPatriot
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To: 5by5
The medals were easy for Kerry to renounce since he knows, in his heart of hearts, that he did not earn them.

thank you

8 posted on 08/31/2004 10:04:51 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack... Bull Halsey)
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To: escapefromboston

Ouch on Kerry all right, but I wonder about the timing of these ads. Why air them during the RNC week, when we're getting plenty of exposure? Unless...the Swiftees have something truly devastating saved up for October.


9 posted on 08/31/2004 10:05:22 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: kattracks

I found the first advertisements released by the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth to be incredibly compelling. They also tied in nicely with the book, which I have read about, but haven't read. I contributed to the Swiftboat Vets after the first ad.

The third and fourth ads seem very weak to me. The Third ad, about Christmas in Cambodia, assumed that the viewer will know the whole story, with all of its subtleties (I almost said "nuances"), most importantly the dispute about whether any of the Swiftboat Vets were on Kerry's boat. I thought that the Swiftboat Vets should have made an effort to report on the significance of the Christmas-in-Cambodia story to Kerry's whole life construction (distrust of the Executive branch, the memory being "seared, seared" in him, etc.

This fourth ad is the weakest yet. There were many people who were opposed to the war in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Being against the war doesn't disqualify someone. David Horowitz of Front Page, for example, was a radical leader before he became conservative. When the Swiftboat Vets show a protester (not Kerry) throwing medals, and then ask how someone who opposed the war can be trusted with America's security, it seems to me that they are raising a red herring.

If a bunch of 20-something Iraq War vets were to throw their medals over the White House fence, I would not think that this would disqualify them for future leadership, although I would want to know what it was about.

More important, who were the VVAW, exactly? How involved was Kerry with the fake leadership and the assassination plot against members of Congress? Did he ever recant his involvement with the group (not to my knowledge). How have his views evolved since that time?

The ad ends by asking how someone who threw his medals in the past can be trusted with America's security now (I'm paraphrasing). To me, this is a red herring.

I hope that the Swiftboat Vets aren't getting lazy and sloppy with their own presentation. If they are, they'll be just like the mainstream media, but from the other side.


10 posted on 08/31/2004 10:06:04 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: cloud8

well I have been hearing about some "october surprise" for awhile maybe they have something.


11 posted on 08/31/2004 10:07:26 AM PDT by escapefromboston (the real Green Lantern Returns!)
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To: BushCheney4America

What an arrogant little punk.


12 posted on 08/31/2004 10:07:35 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: BushCheney4America

Very good compare and contrast ad. Fabulously done.

The ad buy is also quite adequate to blanket Florida.


13 posted on 08/31/2004 10:08:22 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Piranha
This fourth ad is the weakest yet. There were many people who were opposed to the war in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Being against the war doesn't disqualify someone.

I actually think you could make the case that it was HONORABLE to oppose the war. However, Kerry is not selling himself that way at the moment. He is "Reporting for Duty" and selling himself as a hardcore soldier. These guys are calling him on it.

14 posted on 08/31/2004 10:08:43 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: cloud8
Why air them during the RNC week, when we're getting plenty of exposure?

Because Kerry is speaking to the American Legion tomorrow.

15 posted on 08/31/2004 10:08:48 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: BushCheney4America

Rush is now playing it.


16 posted on 08/31/2004 10:08:54 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cloud8
The word is on the street in FreeRepublic that the Swift Vets DO have a bigger weapon to bring out in October. They are not, like Ensign Pulver in Mr. Roberts, using up their whole ammunition too early.

Congressman Billybob

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17 posted on 08/31/2004 10:09:41 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Exactly--one of the most vital rules in politics for criticizing the opposition is to not fire all ammunition at once.


18 posted on 08/31/2004 10:11:42 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cloud8

"Why air them during the RNC week,"

These ad's have nothing to do with the GOP or the convention.


19 posted on 08/31/2004 10:12:16 AM PDT by Arpege92 (We're here! We're Conservative! And we're in your face! - theDentist)
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To: kattracks
The Swifties are geting fund-raising giddiness, and releasing ads too rapidly which are not as good as the more carefully-crafted original ads. #3 was lame, and this one is weak as well.

PLEASE RUN #2 AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN...one of the most effective political ads I have ever seen.

20 posted on 08/31/2004 10:16:26 AM PDT by montag813
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