Posted on 08/29/2004 1:57:32 PM PDT by NYC Republican
You wrote:
"...Karl Rove bribe??? Are you kidding?"
Sorry, I forgot to arm my sarcasm torpedo.
I thought you'd get it.
You wrote:
"Jeez, another newbie, you're less than a week old, huh? Republican my a$$"
Yes, another newbie, admittedly.
See this posting to me from Polybius:
>To: grey_whiskers
>Let's say you are thinking about posting an article. Copy >and paste the title of the article into >FreeReuplic's "Search" function and then see if it has >already been posted.
>In this case:
>Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John >Lehman)........ Posted by Grampa Dave On News/Activism >08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT · 786 replies · 18,235+ views
and my response:
>Polybius:
>
>You wrote:
>
>"Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John >Lehman)........ Posted by Grampa Dave On News/Activism >08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT · 786 replies · 18,235+ views"
>^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Wow!!
>Thanks for not flaming me to well-done
>Marshmallow Toasties (TM) as I so richly
>deserve. Your tact is gratefully accepted.
>Let us always strive to be civil.
Please search elsewhere for my replies before deciding
I am not a Republican.
Cheers!
Sorry bud, I didn't catch the sarcasm... Another poster on this thread was being harshly critical, and I thought you were just piling on..
She may be too conservative, and would be dismissed outright... I'd love to see someone like Fred Barnes do it.
Yep...and imagine how all these po' folk must feel everytime they turn on MTV or VH1 and see the Lifestyles of the "Young," Rich and Famous. I don't know of any other country where talentless teenagers can become millionaires, practically overnight. With record breaking sports and entertainment contracts...somebody is buying this crap. The only time poverty exists is when a Republican is running for re-election.
Yeah, they are basicly flip sides of the same coin.
But Dubya has handed Kerry the campaign issue on a silver platter by denying that the problem exists, destroying his own credibility in the process.
That's OK. I have an asbestos suit :-)
Adjusted by fantastical cpi inflators. Hard to get a true read.
About two weeks ago, in Ohio, Bush admitted that there's a problem. Last I heard of it.
We've seen the Dem ads on the topic up here--one is particularly effective--black/white film of a dead plant.
Scary how good the ad was, and even scarier that somebody could be swayed by it...
That is -- the war on America haters (aka terrorists willing and able to kill) -- is the fundament of any recovery plan.
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That's my high road answer. I also have a low road one.
What's really interesting about that graph is that 'median income' peaked BEFORE, and was actually in decline BEFORE the 'recession' shaded area.
Wonder howcumizzit THAT?
Got any ideas?
After adjusting for inflation, median American household income is still up 30% from 1967.
It has declined for brief periods in the last 4 decades, always rebounding ever higher. The last median income peak was in 1999. It stabilized in 2002 and 2003, and is increasing in 2004.
By cherry-picking data, however, the NY Times can claim a shrinking middle-class. That's not the case, however. In absolute numbers, the middle class has continued to grow.
In percentages, the middle class has shrunk only because more have moved up to become rich as well as more immigrants who were already poor have moved in.
But in absolute numbers the middle class has continued to grow.
5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires
Yeah--he's had a large and legitimate distraction for a while.
But my Congresscritter is a little disgusted with the Admin's "see-no/hear-no/speak-no" on the manufacturing problem--and was particularly PO'd when that Bush econ guru popped out of his pointy-headed home and stated that 'manufacturing is for the birds' or some such.\
My congressguy is an ACU 99/5% rated guy--likely will win again, by a decent margin--but the Dimowits are taking shots at him with the economy problem. It will be interesting to see whether his usual winning margin shrinks.
"Median h/h income" is tricky, South, particularly if you use 1967 as a baseline.
Recall that two-income families were a VERY small part of households in '67/ comparo 2000.
And of course, 'median h/h/ medical expenses' are up about 9 gazillion percent since '67, too. (Or 1977: when our first daughter was born, the whole, entire, bill WITH dinner was $1,000. neat, MD and hospital 4-day stay. The last daughter was $8K, three days.--1993.)
Oh yeah--didn't FICA go up a bit since 1967?
So materially we are way better. Still continuing.
That doesn't mean there are problems to be fixed. Debt levels -- personal debt levels are a problem. Morals -- a downdraft right up through midway Clinton. Then resistance to moral decay arose and we seem to be in a moral upswing. One hamper to that is the debt level. Heavy debt, when one loses the ability to pay it back leads to despair. Few social conditions harder to rememdy than despair.
Oh -- and the common recourse to lies of convience about financial matters continues -- but is turning down.
"Median h/h income" is tricky, South, particularly if you use 1967 as a baseline.
Recall that two-income families were a VERY small part of households in '67/ comparo 2000.
And of course, 'median h/h/ medical expenses' are up about 9 gazillion percent since '67, too. (Or 1977: when our first daughter was born, the whole, entire, bill WITH dinner was $1,000. neat, MD and hospital 4-day stay. The last daughter was $8K, three days.--1993.)
Oh yeah--didn't FICA go up a bit since 1967?
"Median h/h income" is tricky, South, particularly if you use 1967 as a baseline.
Recall that two-income families were a VERY small part of households in '67/ comparo 2000.
And of course, 'median h/h/ medical expenses' are up about 9 gazillion percent since '67, too. (Or 1977: when our first daughter was born, the whole, entire, bill WITH dinner was $1,000. neat, MD and hospital 4-day stay. The last daughter was $8K, three days.--1993.)
Oh yeah--didn't FICA go up a bit since 1967?
Thanks bud... Would love to see the % below and above middle class for '80 and '03 if anyone has it.
Clicked on your ID, loved the site.
Here's another quote for you from Chesterton, and
a link:
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
www.rightwingstuff.com
YOW! Wish I could afford
more of this stuff :-)
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