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Kerry's foes hung up on '70s anti-war remarks
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 8-29-04 | BY WILLIAM O'ROURKE

Posted on 08/29/2004 4:58:32 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

During the run-up to the GOP convention in New York City, Republicans have been busy running down John Kerry, his Vietnam service and his subsequent anti-war work particularly. [snip]

Hearing all the anti-Kerry swift boaters' criticism of Kerry, one would assume that the Vietnam war was a ''cakewalk,'' as one Bush administration adviser predicted the Iraq excursion would be. Given the Kerry critics' version of what went on in Vietnam, there were only sad teenagers in loincloths to worry about. And, therefore, we should have won that war.

But we didn't -- and there's the rub. It is Kerry's post-Vietnam anti-war statements made in the early 1970s that so upset his opponents. Kerry's old accusations are artifacts of their time. When taken out of the heated context of that war, their meaning is distorted. Back then, his listeners could discriminate. Now the aging and raging veterans supporting Bush are taking umbrage at charges never aimed at them. Their rancor has only increased with time. [snip]

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: election2004; kerry
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Carrying water for the sinking Kerry campaign is getting much more difficult.
1 posted on 08/29/2004 4:58:32 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Kerry's foes are hung up on the core of who Jean Faux Kerry is - a leftist who hates US sovreignty.


2 posted on 08/29/2004 4:59:51 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
aging and raging veterans

To be spit on and called child killers.

3 posted on 08/29/2004 5:06:31 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Republicans have been busy running down John Kerry, his Vietnam service and his subsequent anti-war work particularly.

As soon as I read a sentence like that with that phrase "running down" instead of "illuminating", "analyzing" or "taking a closer look at" I stop. Big Media sucks!

Big Media is the most ruthless and dangerous enemy of this nation. Never forget and try to counter their continual lies.

4 posted on 08/29/2004 5:07:03 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In this one way his critics are right: Kerry has made his military service a centerpiece of his campaign. He should have made both kinds of service -- for the war and against the war -- its center.

Or, he could have made his legislative career his primary qualification....why do you think he didn't? Because, depite twenty years, he has barely even HAD a legislative career?

5 posted on 08/29/2004 5:09:13 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Kerry's old accusations are artifacts of their time. When taken out of the heated context of that war, their meaning is distorted.

In a way, Kerry's remarks are like the Constitution. They can only be interpreted correctly if they are filtered through the liberal elites. On the other hand, the Kerry remarks are only meaningful when taken in historical context, whereas the Constitution's original meaning must never be considered or even brought up.

6 posted on 08/29/2004 5:10:50 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


Wow...man...The 21 first century ain't what I thought...wow...
7 posted on 08/29/2004 5:14:13 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess whichever Kerry suck-butt that wrote this forgot that it was Kerry who brought up his war antics.


8 posted on 08/29/2004 5:14:52 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It's about restoring the honor to the 58,000 names carved in black granite
9 posted on 08/29/2004 5:15:16 AM PDT by Cannonette
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Tired of the lamestream media and the DemocRATS 'smear the messenger' campaign?

Do SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Do what Reagan did - GO AROUND THEM AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

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10 posted on 08/29/2004 5:15:39 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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"Now the aging and raging veterans supporting Bush are taking umbrage at charges never aimed at them. Their rancor has only increased with time."

John A Bulpit died April 28,1966 in Viet Nam while VOLUNTEERING to ride shotgun on an ammo truck.

You bet your a.. I take ubbrage at Kerry's charges that cast dispersions on ALL Viet Nam Soldiers. Unfortunately Jackie never got the chance to become an"aging and raging vet"


11 posted on 08/29/2004 5:19:31 AM PDT by heylady
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I am a Vietnam Vet living in NH and there is a local VFW Hall in Exeter. One of my auto mechanics, also a Vietnam Vet, practically lives in the place. I happened upon him at the station where he works and the topic turned to Monsieur Kerrie. The first thing out of his mouth was:

"Kerry is a piece of S---!"

Now this struck me as interesting because this guy is about as apolitical as it gets. In 15 years he has never uttered a thing about politics or a candidate. Anyway, he went on to say that EVERYONE in the VFW hall was up in arms over Kerry, that they supported the Swift Vets and that Kerry had absolutely NO SUPPORT among the veterans there.

To show you how much Kerry is despised, the VFW hall has 3 TV's running all the time over the bar and pool table, in the evening I have NEVER seen them off and I walk by the place every other day (exercise). I happened to be walking the night Kerry gave his acceptance speech live and went right by the hall at the exact time he was giving his speech. There are windows facing the street and I decided to see if the vets were paying any attention to this guy, seeing as Exeter tends to be a very liberal community. Well, I looked in and EVERY ONE OF THE TV's HAD BEEN TURNED OFF and everyone I could see was otherwise occupied.

The vets I know are up in arms over Kerry because of his actions against them when he returned from Vietnam. They don't "want Vietnam to go away," Kerry besmirched their honor and they want to set the record straight!

I served in the Vietnam theater of war on the USS Prairie (1970 - 1973) a destroyer tender. We were stationed out of San Diego and Long Beach. When we returned to the States, we were advised NOT to wear our uniforms off base because of all of the grief and ill will service men and women in uniform were receiving because of the evil, untrue things Kerry had said about Vietnam Vets. He is a traitor and his record of opposing EVERY major weapons program is a testimony to what he really thinks about defending America and how "strong" he really wants America to be.

This has nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with truth, honor and Kerry's traitorous actions. We lost in Vietnam because of Kerry and his ilk, and now he is making himself out to be a "hero" to generations who were not around in 68 through the early 70's, while the rest of us, according to Kerry, were and are war criminals. The Vietnam vets know he lied in the past, they are not going to allow him to lie now and get away with it. The truth concerning JF'n Kerry is not going to be swept under the carpet this time and THIS IS NOT GONG TO GO AWAY, NEITHER ARE THE VIETNAM VETS GOING TO "MOVE ON" and talk about something else because it is NOT about politics, it is about truth, honor, OUR reputations and setting the record straight for posterity!

Vietnam Vets never received a homecoming, that seems to be what is finally happening! Kerry's wrongs are being exposed and the honor of these fine men and women who bravely fought to deliver Vietnam and the rest of the world from communism is at long last being restored.

The greatest way people can support Vietnam vets at this time is to support Swiftboats for Truth!

12 posted on 08/29/2004 5:26:56 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Pray for President Bush)
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To: Chieftain

Way to go, Chief. Americans don't want the war on terror to become another Vietnam. That's what this is all about.


13 posted on 08/29/2004 5:27:35 AM PDT by risk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Those Nasty Republicans, daring to quote Kerry.

Poor whining liberals.


14 posted on 08/29/2004 5:29:14 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let's take a moveon.org approach to see if he'll understand the point: Kerry lied, soldiers died.


15 posted on 08/29/2004 5:30:03 AM PDT by Lord Basil (Hate isn't a family value; it's a liberal one.)
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"But we didn't -- and there's the rub. It is Kerry's post-Vietnam anti-war statements made in the early 1970s that so upset his opponents. Kerry's old accusations are artifacts of their time. When taken out of the heated context of that war, their meaning is distorted. Back then, his listeners could discriminate. Now the aging and raging veterans supporting Bush are taking umbrage at charges never aimed at them. Their rancor has only increased with time. [snip]

So far the MSM and Kerry have erroneously labeled the Swifties as Republican surrogates, liars and envious psychopaths. Now, the new defense will be that they are psychotically and mistakenly angry about Kerry's antiwar comments after he returned. Always, always Kerry avoids any discussion of the the facts and remains steadfast in seeing the Swifter's as liars, Republicans or sick with anger. Watch the MSM media take up the "sick with anger Kerry defense."

16 posted on 08/29/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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Given the Kerry critics' version of what went on in Vietnam, there were only sad teenagers in loincloths to worry about.

Of all the idiotic, sophomoric lines in this pile of bits column, this one takes the award for most idiotic. Is O'Rourke on drugs?

17 posted on 08/29/2004 5:34:46 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Jmouse007

bump #12


18 posted on 08/29/2004 5:36:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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It is Kerry's post-Vietnam anti-war statements made in the early 1970s that so upset his opponents. Kerry's old accusations are artifacts of their time. When taken out of the heated context of that war, their meaning is distorted. Back then, his listeners could discriminate. Now the aging and raging veterans supporting Bush are taking umbrage at charges never aimed at them. Their rancor has only increased with time.

Whom were Kerry's charges aimed at then?

19 posted on 08/29/2004 5:41:48 AM PDT by randita
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It is Kerry's post-Vietnam anti-war statements made in the early 1970s that so upset his opponents.

Speaking only for myself, anti-war statements never upset me that much. I have always supported the right of The People to engage in legitimate protest.
I did not, and I do not now condone sedition and treason. Hanoi John crossed a well defined line, and in my opinion his actions were even more despicable than those of Hanoi Jane - he was still an officer in the United States navy when he showed himself to be a despicable, self aggrandizing, lying backstabbing seditious traitor.
20 posted on 08/29/2004 5:42:02 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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