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HOW KERRY QUIT VETERANS GROUP AMID DARK PLOT -
The New York Sun ^

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:25:21 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Fedora

A thread a few days ago (I don't remember which one, there are so many of Kerry deceits) showed Kerry was still involved in group activities into 1972.

He may have resigned (there was a dated resignation letter that surfaced months ago), but he was still involved with the group after the KC meeting.


21 posted on 08/28/2004 7:51:32 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Clearly there is considerable confusion about the time of Mr. Kerry’s resignation.According to Mr. Nicosia,“He resigned from the executive committee” after a spectacular argument with VVAW leader Al Hubbard at the July national leadership meeting in St Louis.

Utter B.S. This de-classified FBI document of surveillance of the meeting and contemporaneous informants at the meeting say otherwise. Page 192 of Section 11 Document (FBI PDF Document Section 11) (11 for November, I think) plainly states that Kerry arrived at the November 1971 meeting in Kansas City and announced that he was resigning from the "executive committee" for "personal reasons". He clearly remained at the meeting and attended for several days, even after announcing his resignation from the executive committee. The document states that he still planned to be an active member of the VVAW, just not part of the executive committee. The document then on PDF page 194 says that the "Agenda committee" met privately for an hour where Scot Camil proposed his "readiness squads" (codeword for Phoenix type group). The surveillance document says that the Agenda committee then refused to let Camil present the proposal to the general meeting, but placed the proposal on the agenda for the Spring Meeting in February 1972. Now there must have been some falling out between Scot Camil and the national VVAW committee, because elsewhere in the document it says that somewhere around December, the national group distanced themselves from Camil, and said that Camil no longer represented the national VVAW organization. The document goes on to say that Camil announced he was starting his own splinter VVAW local group.
22 posted on 08/28/2004 7:52:07 PM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: rineaux
John effing Kerry is, in popular phraseology, a NUT. That explains him. how he got where he is is really puzzling.
23 posted on 08/28/2004 7:52:16 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is that headline misleading to anyone else?


24 posted on 08/28/2004 7:52:59 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Brilliant
Give a scroundrel even one small morsel of praise if you can.

In this case, it is probably true that he voted against action and resigned. But methinks first and foremost in his mind was not so much the safety of US officials, but the fact that he had his eye on a Congressional seat the following year, and this would "go down bad for him and his career." So he bailed out.

But several questions: Why lie about having been there, and secondly, why did he not assist the police and Secret Service in breaking up the actions of the more radical faction? Disturbing.

25 posted on 08/28/2004 7:55:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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To: rineaux
This is what troubles me. Kerry would have someone in his own campaign who wanted to assassinate us senators. in a kerry presidency, what role would camil have?

Congressional Liaison?

Talk about commies having the Camil nose under the tent...
26 posted on 08/28/2004 7:55:28 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

That's why he the perfect leader for the rest of the lunatic Democrats.


27 posted on 08/28/2004 7:58:17 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Don't bet on Kerry))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I guess there is logic to that way of an explanation for how Kerry got where he is. He's the chief nut.


28 posted on 08/28/2004 8:02:05 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not only did Kerry fail to report anything to the authorities, he also continued to serve as a spokesman for this radical group for another year or so.


29 posted on 08/28/2004 8:03:01 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: muawiyah

The best response you can ever expect to get out of a 'Rat in this situation: "Well all politicians lie!"


30 posted on 08/28/2004 8:03:05 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Kerry lied while good men died.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
He said he plans to accept an offer by the Florida Kerry organization to become active in Mr. Kerry’s presidential campaign.

And why would anyone in his right mind consider coming within 100 miles of this nut-case Camil during the current campaign? Surely Kerry had to know that it was no secret that Camil was a murderous whacko. It just goes to show how Kerry thought he could rail-road his way to victory in November with no interference from his past.
31 posted on 08/28/2004 8:03:28 PM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: TomGuy

There is a photo in a newspaper with a caption under it that dated a year or more after that meeting. The photo was of Kerry watching a Nixon speech, I think, and the caption had him as a "spokesman" for the VVAW. We have seen it posted here on FR. Somebody's bound to have it.


32 posted on 08/28/2004 8:07:26 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Do you think the fence sitters in Ohio, Michigan, MO and Florida where Camil resides knows this? Probably not. Jane Fonda will be a staple at the WH if this Traitor is elected.


33 posted on 08/28/2004 8:08:58 PM PDT by rineaux (hardcore for W04)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
When there was the initial talk of Kerry being a fall guy for this election my reaction was, "Well, maybe so--but I highly doubt it".

I am really not so sure any more that the fall guy scenario is not in place. Someone, like the Clintons, had to have clearly known, (duh, look to Teddy, hiccup, Kennedy) about Kerry's colorful, checkered and now schizophrenic past. What a lave campaigner. Imagine him challenging Bush to "Bring it on" over his military record just a few days ago and then his crying to put a stop to it. And pretty boy Edwards challenging people to ask about Kerry's something or another of the "men he served with". It is just absolutely mind boggling to figure out what is going on with that campaign.
34 posted on 08/28/2004 8:09:19 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: AaronInCarolina

Another point in my case for Kerry bieing a nut.


35 posted on 08/28/2004 8:10:40 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

Sorry, too quick with the proof read. bieing=being


36 posted on 08/28/2004 8:11:43 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: TommyDale

For all Kerry knew, his comrades in the group might have changed their minds after he left and proceeded to carry out their assassination plans. He had a moral duty to report this to the authorities. The fact that he remained silent is damning. Like Bill Clinton, he is a self absorbed sociopath.


37 posted on 08/28/2004 8:12:00 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop Kerry))))
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To: Howlin

Terayzuh may want to dig out that old pre-nup and re-read it to make sure it says the same thing it said when they signed it.


38 posted on 08/28/2004 8:12:12 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: TomGuy; stockpirate
stockpirate is becoming the authority on the FBI files.

Mr. Lipscomb fails to mention JOHN HURLEY in this article, as he had in previous articles about this (3/15 and 3/22/04 New York Sun). Hurley tried to get witnesses placing Kerry at the ASSASSINATIONS meetings to change their stories.

39 posted on 08/28/2004 8:17:34 PM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (LET THE SWIFTEES SPEAK! STOP THE CENSORSHIP, JOHN KERRY! www.swiftvets.com)
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To: AaronInCarolina

Any diver can tell you. Crap has a tendency to come bubbling up to the surface.


40 posted on 08/28/2004 8:18:09 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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