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Is a Terrorist Army Massing in the U.S.?
MichNews ^ | 08-28-2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 08/28/2004 6:49:37 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

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To: MegaSilver

I saw that "60 Minutes" episode and thought "Man that dude is so fired". Then they had one last year about arming the pilots. There Mineta still was, obstructing progress every way possible and supposedly clueless about the need for it. Today his Democrat butt is STILL THERE! What's the deal, is he holding the FBI files for Hillary? Sheesh.


181 posted on 08/28/2004 10:47:32 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: airborne

I just saw the new mom and her three doe, I will stick to the fish and vegies. Put my crab rings out and I would be a happy gal. Salmon runs are fantastic as is the OceanPerch.

Probably add goats for milk have to learn how to make feta cheese. : )

The last month I have been walking out front for snacks of plums and blackberries with my Labrador canine companions. Now the apple tree is hanging low with fruit and the two pups jump up and help themselves.


182 posted on 08/28/2004 10:48:51 PM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: Jim Robinson
Congress should pass a law outlawing Islam as a valid religion in the U.S. That ought to solve everything. Ooops. Guess they'll have to repeal the first amendment first.

On one hand, perhaps.

On the other hand, Islam is an expansionist religio-political system basing its theology largely on that of Judaism but drawing its actual identity largely from the darkness of heathan Araby. True confessional Islam does not draw distinctions between religion and politics and does allow for the existance of any system of government or religion but its own. Muslims are commanded to fight against unbelievers until they convert to Islam or (if they are Christians, Jews, or Zoroastrians) quietly submits to the overrule of Islam. A compelling case can be made that Islam in the United States is a fifth column, that the Islamic political ideology is driving those who would destroy us, and that preventing our destruction (by terrorism or other means) should thus involve denying Islam a foothold in the West.

It may not be possible to outlaw the practicing of Islam as a religion, just as it was not possible to forbid membership in the Communist Party in the 1950's. Then, however, as now, we are not powerless. To begin with, we can deny immigration privileges to Muslims. Second, if we show that that Islam is a political body, not merely a religious one, we can argue that Islam has declared war on the United States (since, according to Islamic theology, we are a part of the Dar al-Harb, or House of War). We could then deny zoning permits for Mosques on the grounds that they would constitute embassies for our enemy during wartime. (Admittedly, such solutions are not at present politically viable.)

183 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:13 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: zip; BOBWADE

ping


184 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:14 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: tpaine
We cannot win if we fight it by being fanatical in return.

I disagree. We stand a much better chance of winning it through commitment and ruthlessness (the western way of war) than the PC, "why do they hate us?", "more sensitive" war approach.

185 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

The lease on the two Hermes 450 UAVs expires in a month. I have only seen them occasionally and the numbskulls are flying them at night with the nav beacons on -- in areas that have no other significant air traffic. Might as well put up the Goodyear blimp with its fancy side panel light show.

Speaking of blimps, fellow Freeper AZHSer turned me on to a company that produces excellent tethered blimps at outrageously reasonable prices. The entire rig -- deflated blimp, camera payload, tether assembly and helium tankage would fit on my truck. I can even use the same payload control system as ABP's UAVs...


186 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:48 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Iberian; Jim Robinson
Now we are facing threats we understand but can't control.

Well, all I can tell you is that I and my loved ones haven't been attacked by terrorists. Doesn't that tell you that our president is doing something right?

IMO, 9-11 was a result of 8 years of loafing on National Security issues courtesy of Clinton.

I certainly hope most Americans don't buy into the "sensitive" approach to terrorism that Kerry wants to take.

187 posted on 08/28/2004 10:54:02 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: John Lenin
It's amazing to watch a people give up their culture without a single bullet being fired.

So that's a 'no' on corned beef and cabbage for Sunday dinner then? Darn those Irish.

188 posted on 08/28/2004 10:54:56 PM PDT by asgardshill (The Republican's best weapon lies midway between John Kerry's nose and lower chin.)
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To: MegaSilver
" (Admittedly, such solutions are not at present politically viable.)"

LOL. Looks like your solutions are at least as good as mine. Maybe better.

189 posted on 08/28/2004 10:55:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Dane
Uh Joe, there is no outsourcing crisis.

Erm...

And BTW, you are calling for more govt. intrusion in telling businesses how to operate. Quite hypocritical of you, IMO.

The federal government has always had a right to regulate our relations with other nations. Why should it not have the right to do so in matters of commerce? Or are borders and sovereignty just things of the past?

190 posted on 08/28/2004 10:56:36 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: Jim Robinson
Can't pee into an arroyo causes there could be endangered species of rare shrimp in there just waiting for water to spring into life.

They can do like I do. Go to the border fence and aim south. No EPA to worry about and it has the added benefit of offending the Mexican military personnel who direct smuggler traffic.

191 posted on 08/28/2004 10:59:38 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: LisaMalia

I take a nip or two every day from my Aunt's secret recipe for snake bite medicine. Have never been snake bit yet. Definitely works (my Aunt's never been bitten either and she's well up into her 80s).


192 posted on 08/28/2004 10:59:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: LisaMalia
IMO, 9-11 was a result of 8 years of loafing on National Security issues courtesy of Clinton.

Your post reminded me of something. How far into Clinton's Presidency was the first WTC bombing?

193 posted on 08/28/2004 11:00:10 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Better watch them alligators. Chomp. Chomp.


194 posted on 08/28/2004 11:00:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
As I stated, they are now affecting every single American in this country.

Well, that makes it even simpler yet. If every American is as ticked off as you and me, it should be a cinch to vote them ALL out. Man this gets easier and easier as it goes.

That's not what I said. I said it was now affecting all American's.

You implied that we should vote them ALL out. I guess that would mean starting a new party, one that would put America and American's first, one that would have our best interest in mind, one where we wouldn't have to beg our own leaders to stop selling our own country out. There are many choices in life, except when it comes to politics. In politics we seem to only have the same old two choices. When it comes to the large issues, those that I mentioned earlier, those two choices seemed to have all but merged.

195 posted on 08/28/2004 11:03:57 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Not sure I would consider it such a horrendous threat. I would fear a small group of highly trained terrorists over a massive influx. What exactly can this massive army accomplish? They can barely communicate with each other if at all, they have no support, no weapons to speak of (other than what they can buy, which would certainly set off alarms), no understanding of the culture, and no training. This sounds more like the "Japanese are coming ashore in subs," scare of 1942.


196 posted on 08/28/2004 11:04:58 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: LisaMalia

LisaMalia, I think the prez. is doing everything right.

Those same results of 8 years of "loafing" make our immigration policy look like childs play.

I don't think anyone on this board will vote for Kerry anytime soon, BUT I hope like hell we deal with the immigration issues.


197 posted on 08/28/2004 11:04:59 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Publius6961
As long as the cult of Islam is regarded as a religion precious little can be done about it under the law.
NewRomeTacitus


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Congress should pass a law outlawing Islam as a valid religion in the U.S. That ought to solve everything.

Ooops. Guess they'll have to repeal the first amendment first.
133 JR


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Publius6961 wrote:
Interesting take on the concept of "religion".
Both Germany and Japan obviously neglected the perfect vehicle for their world adventures in the thirties and forties.
Just think how differently things might have played out if they had simply referred to their aggression, what they did, as their religion.
Then dressed their million man (religious) armies in civilian clothes and sent them overseas as "students" and "tourists".


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Germany & Japan didn't want to destroy our Western 'culture', they wanted to control it, and us.
-- Like it or not, we are in a 'holy war', -- a religious war against fanatics.

We cannot win if we fight it by being fanatical in return.
153 tpaine


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I disagree. We stand a much better chance of winning it through commitment and ruthlessness (the western way of war) than the PC, "why do they hate us?", "more sensitive" war approach.
185 -Pub-


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I have no problem with the "western way of war".
We should go after the fundamentalist leaders, and kill them all. IMO, our politicians are too 'PC', not me.

--- I was referring to being fanatical enough to violate our own Constitutions BOR's, as you well know.  
198 posted on 08/28/2004 11:06:39 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hey, if they're all so affected, I don't see any reason why we couldn't start a new party. Great idea! Get all the affected-to-the-hilt-aint-gonna-take-it-no-more Republicans and affected-to-the-hilt-aint-gonna-take-it-no-more Democrats together and just start one big happy big tent party. Piece of cake.
199 posted on 08/28/2004 11:09:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: pepsionice

"If these folks are in the country...they must be captured or killed"

Captured would do.


200 posted on 08/28/2004 11:18:53 PM PDT by Cedar
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