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Swift Boats and the Lessons of Dukakis
New York Times ^ | 08/29/04 | ROBIN TONER

Posted on 08/28/2004 1:51:06 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

Swift Boats and the Lessons of Dukakis

By ROBIN TONER

Published: August 29, 2004

WASHINGTON — This is not the first time Senator John Kerry's advisers have heard the guns of August.

Sixteen years ago, several of them were working for Michael S. Dukakis, the Democratic nominee, who began the month with a substantial lead in the polls, only to see it disappear under a steady onslaught from the campaign of Vice President Bush, an onslaught aided by rumors and third-party attacks. Democrats bitterly complained that these outside attacks - including a baseless charge that Kitty Dukakis had once burned an American flag - were guided by an "invisible hand," as the late Kirk O'Donnell, a senior adviser to Mr. Dukakis, put it. The Bush campaign denied any involvement.

It was a searing experience, which helped forge the rapid-response Clinton campaign of 1992 - and helps explain the Kerry campaign's furious reaction to the attacks of a group of Swift boat veterans. The memory "really added to the decision-making on how to engage these kinds of scurrilous attacks," said Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Mr. Kerry and a Dukakis veteran. Mr. Dukakis himself said, in an interview, "This time, having learned from '88, nobody is going to sit around and let it happen."

Republicans point out that they are not the sole practitioners of political hardball. In fact, Ed Gillespie, the Republican chairman, has spent much of the year denouncing what he calls "political hate speech" by the Democrats.

It is all part of the seemingly endless reaction to 1988 - in retrospect, the first take-no-prisoners presidential campaign of the modern era. And for the Democrats it was a humiliating mismatch.

"You had a bunch of policy operatives who wanted to debate policy differences against Lee Atwater, Roger Ailes and the some of the toughest gunfighters we had on our side," said Ed Rollins, a veteran Republican strategist, describing the Dukakis campaign of 1988.

"Not this time," Mr. Rollins added. "Both sides are prepared to throw hand grenades and have been doing it for a long time."

As Mr. Dukakis has long acknowledged, he contributed to his August slide. Perhaps lulled by his 17-point edge in the polls after the Democratic convention, he spent much of the month in his home state and was slow to react when the charges started coming that he was soft on crime and insufficiently patriotic.

The Bush campaign portrayed Mr. Dukakis as a Massachusetts liberal who let criminals out on weekend furloughs and refused to require schoolchildren to say the Pledge of Allegiance. The Democrats campaign defended the policies - the furlough program had had bipartisan support, the policy on the pledge was the result of a Massachusetts court decision - but the legalistic responses were no match for the powerful imagery and rough attacks of the Republicans.

Charles Black, a senior Republican strategist who was close to Mr. Atwater, is one of many Republicans who argue that those issues were fair game, and that Mr. Dukakis was defeated not because of his tactical failures but because voters rejected his beliefs. "There's a big myth about the '88 election, that Dukakis was attacked and he did not respond," Mr. Black said.

"Lee figured out early on that Dukakis was what we used to call an honest liberal. That he would defend his positions on things like the death penalty. He did respond - but his answers put him outside the mainstream."

Mr. Bush recited the Pledge of Allegiance on the campaign trail and asked if Mr. Dukakis had a "problem" with it; Republicans constantly mocked the Massachusetts governor as a "card-carrying member of the A.C.L.U." An independent group ran television commercials showing a police photograph of Willie Horton, a black convicted murderer who brutally attacked a Maryland couple after escaping while on a weekend furlough from a Massachusetts prison.

At the same time, the Dukakis campaign was also scrambling to deal with a shadowy wave of rumors that seemed intended to raise doubts about a candidate who was still largely unknown. "You're fighting an invisible enemy as much as anything," said Susan Estrich, the Dukakis campaign manager, now a law professor at the University of Southern California.

One damaging rumor, that Mr. Dukakis had undergone psychiatric treatment, was pushed onto the front page when President Ronald Reagan was asked about it and joked that he didn't want to pick on "an invalid." Mr. Dukakis's advisers said later that he dropped 8 points in the polls after that report.

The campaign held a news conference with the candidate's doctor and released his medical records, all knocking down the story, but Ms. Estrich recalls, "The problem with rumors is the more you answer them, the more play they get."

The attacks never let up. The night before the election, as Mr. Dukakis flew back to Boston to await what was then a certain defeat, he stopped in Des Moines to refuel and speak to a sad crowd of Democrats. Even then, young Bush supporters turned out to chant the Pledge of Allegiance and shout, "Liberal! Liberal! Liberal!" Mr. Dukakis lost 40 states.

The rough lessons of 1988 took hold: Respond, hit back, leave no charge unanswered. Another lesson, which often gets lost, is that the way a campaign is conducted makes a difference. The senior Mr. Bush took office in January 1989 and immediately tried to strike a bipartisan, conciliatory tone. But the Democratic bitterness endured, and made the task of governing all the harder.


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KEYWORDS: 1988; bush; dukakis; kerry; lessons; sbv; swiftboats; swiftboatveterans
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More Slimes spin, trying to tie the Swiftees to President Bush. But the facts just don't measure up.

It can't help Kerry to be compared to the loser governor under which he served, though.

1 posted on 08/28/2004 1:51:07 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

For some reason demokrats get the maddest when you beat them on the issues. They still are whining about Willie Horton (initially brought up by SoreLoserman) 16 years later. They will still be crying about Cleland's pro-union vote on homeland security being made an issue 20 years from now.


2 posted on 08/28/2004 2:01:32 PM PDT by ottothedog
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It was a searing experience, which helped forge the rapid-response Clinton campaign of 1992 - and helps explain the Kerry campaign's furious reaction to the attacks of a group of Swift boat veterans.

These bozos at the NY Times can't even keep track of what happened two weeks ago much less two decades ago. Kerry, along with his media outlets in New York, Boston, Washington D.C and LA, initially tried to ignore the Swift Vets. It was only after the Swift Vets scored on knockdown on glass-jaw John, that the demmies started fighting back.

3 posted on 08/28/2004 2:01:38 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: conservative in nyc

Nice and balanced from the NYTs again...

No mention of MoveOn.org and all the others...

Poor Dims, their being picked on...

They sure can dish it out, fortunately for us they can't take it in return.


4 posted on 08/28/2004 2:01:50 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: ottothedog

who was it that initially raised the Willie Horton issue? I thought it was Gore, but recently I read another report saying it was Gary Hart who initially made it campaign fodder.


5 posted on 08/28/2004 2:03:04 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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First Dukakis , now his Lt. Gov Kerry and his band of imaginary friends. Krauthammer is right, they're gonna need therapy.
6 posted on 08/28/2004 2:05:01 PM PDT by snooker (Looks like the Swifties snookered the dims ...)
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To: vbmoneyspender

You'd think the NYTs would try to avoid words like "seared" considering how Kerry's had his mind seared so many times only to be proven lies...


7 posted on 08/28/2004 2:06:09 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: conservative in nyc
including a baseless charge that Kitty Dukakis had once burned an American flag

How can it be “baseless” when she admitted doing it? Also, didn’t Kitty have a substantial drinking and “mother’s little helper” problem? Resulted in her drinking rubbing alcohol and frying her liver if I recall.

Seems like information America deserves to know. After all, she was running for America’s First Lady.

Fast forward to the Ketchup Queen. Scary, isn’t it.
8 posted on 08/28/2004 2:06:46 PM PDT by schaketo (Notorious for skinny dipping in the same pond as snapping turtles)
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To: vbmoneyspender

SoreLoserman.


9 posted on 08/28/2004 2:06:58 PM PDT by ottothedog
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It was a searing experience....

The Liberals sure like to throw the word "searing" around, don't they?

10 posted on 08/28/2004 2:09:04 PM PDT by Polybius
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Sixteen years ago, several of them were working for Michael S. Dukakis, the Democratic
nominee, who began the month with a substantial lead in the polls, only to see
it disappear under a steady onslaught from the campaign of Vice President
Bush, an onslaught aided by rumors and third-party attacks.


Nice, professional journalism from The New York Times!
Thus no mention that:
1. The worst damage was self-inflicted, as in the Dumb TankDriver Picture and
Dukakis revealing himself as a moral IDIOT during debates.
2. The "rumors and third-party attacks" came from Democrats, such as conservative
Democrat Albert Gore, Jr. who gave us the Willie Horton advert.

If (Please G-d!) Kerry loses, it will be his own fault.
He didn't heed the sage advice that he got from Bob Dole.
11 posted on 08/28/2004 2:10:05 PM PDT by VOA
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Liberals had no problem blaming Dubya for the dragging death of James Byrd, Jr., or releasing a sealed DUI charge hours before the election.

Seems to me that they can dish it out but they can't take it.

12 posted on 08/28/2004 2:11:05 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg
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Mr. Bush recited the Pledge of Allegiance on the campaign trail and asked if
Mr. Dukakis had a "problem" with it; Republicans constantly mocked the
Massachusetts governor as a "card-carrying member of the A.C.L.U."


Time to find out if the Mass. Senator running for press also supports
the ACLU...and their zealous defense of NAMBLA...

If nothing else, it should be interesting to see him flip-flop on the deck for a while.
13 posted on 08/28/2004 2:12:11 PM PDT by VOA
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If they can't take it they shouldn't dish it out.

We all know about the millions of dollars spent by Bush enemies this year. We all remember the horrid accusation that Bush was somehow responsible for the dragging death of that poor man in Jasper and we all remember the DUI story coming out right before the election. We remember how they tried to intimate that Bush Sr. had a mistress and many more smear tactics from the left. The reason they didn't resonate with the populace was because they weren't true, except for the DUI and it hurt.

The stuff coming out on SKerry has the ring of truth and though he has screamed, hollered, whined and called "not fair" he hasn't defended himself point by point. He hasn't even really said, "That's nonsense". He just keeps smearing the Vets but all he has to do is rebut them if he can.

Another problem is that SKerry has been too stupid over the years and has made himself a hero in his own mind and in interviews. And that has given us all the ammo we need.

14 posted on 08/28/2004 2:18:44 PM PDT by tiki
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It just amazes me all the rationalizations that the media can come up with. The Swift Vets come out with their ad, and the NYT comes out with some stupid diagram trying to tie it to Bush. The NAA(L)CP comes out with their Byrd ad and somehow it's independent.

The DUI stuff was a classic campaign dirty trick, but I blame Bush for not disclosing that beforehand.

15 posted on 08/28/2004 2:19:43 PM PDT by ottothedog
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To: Polybius

"The Liberals sure like to throw the word "searing" around, don't they?"

And don't forget the Bill Clinton's favorite, "Mean Spirited"


16 posted on 08/28/2004 2:21:17 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude (If Kerry wins... we all lose.)
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The senior Mr. Bush took office in January 1989 and immediately tried to strike a bipartisan, conciliatory tone. But the Democratic bitterness endured, and made the task of governing all the harder.

The Democrat bitterness had been raging ever since 1980, and had been out in the open from 1987 on, with the obnoxious Bork attacks and Iran-Contra grand-standing.

17 posted on 08/28/2004 2:22:37 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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More Slimes spin, trying to tie the Swiftees to President Bush.

You've been duped into playing by their rules. They've co-opted you to support their programing. If not that, then did you agree to it? They foisted the word spin as a seemingly innocent replacement for deception. Use the correct word: deceive, or one of it's derivatives: deception. deceit.

18 posted on 08/28/2004 2:23:54 PM PDT by Zon
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Mr. Dukakis lost 40 states.

That was a shock, he should have lost 50!

19 posted on 08/28/2004 2:24:33 PM PDT by Radix (John Kerry is finally not going to do a 180, especially when it comes to releasing his form 180!)
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20 posted on 08/28/2004 2:25:47 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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