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Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)
Sun Times ^ | August 28, 2004 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief

August 28, 2004

BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.

"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."

Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.

Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.

Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New York


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To: Grampa Dave

81 posted on 08/28/2004 7:47:49 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: tdadams

I've Got EVERYTHING CROSSED!!!!!


82 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:02 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: P-Marlowe
Does someone have a link to the document in question?

Well glory be ... somebody is actually going to look at the source! Good luck correcting the folks here who labor under false impressions.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Bronze_Star.pdf <-- Two Bronze Star citation letters

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Silver_Star.pdf <-- Two Silver Star citation letters

83 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Interesting Times

Sometime yesterday -- it may have been last night -- I looked up and saw somebody on MSNBC, a man, whom I had not seen before.

But the caption said NAVY: Documents contradict Kerry.

Did anybody else see this?


84 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: SkyPilot
Lehman was Sec of the Navy during Reagan's Presidency----and John Kerry was by then a powerful Senator

Actually, I think Lehman was SecNav 1981 to 1987, and Kerry was first elected to the Senate in 1984. Before going to the Senate, he was Michael Dukakis' LtGov 1982 to 1984.
85 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney, too.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Gonzaga, huh? They have a pretty active College Republican crowd.

Correctamundo! My four years in Zagland bring nothing but fond memories to me. Great school in a great city!

86 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:16 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: sharktrager
Perhaps he lost it somewhere on the other side of the Capital Hill fence?

He already said he tossed someone elses medals over the fence and his originals are on the Senate office wall or some such thing
87 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:00 AM PDT by e_castillo
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To: tdadams

Maybe, he had a paramour on the "inside" that got the document for him. We already know this explanation would be perfecttly accepatable to the dem party of idiots.


88 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:14 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"Well...Kerry wanted Viet Nam to be the centerpiece of his campaign. Looks like it might just be!"

It is like this arrogant POS, Kerry, sets up a bear trap, called his Nam record, hollers look at me, and then he steps on the trap's trigger. Now that it has him trapped, he is whining about it.


89 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: TheRightGuy

You know the media is at war with itself on this. On the one hand it is pulling for Kerry. On the other hand, it smells a BIG story. If Kerry looks any weaker in the polls, the media will move in for the kill, figuring he'd lose anyway, might as well get a good story out of it. Besides, if Kerry goes down with the media defending him still, then it would look worse for them in any post-election analysis. But if they take Kerry down themselves, they avoid that judgment.


90 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:17 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Night Hides Not

MOD,

SORRY, won't happen again, got excited there for a minute.


91 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:34 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider ((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))
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To: Grampa Dave
Yoiks! That's a dicey one!

If it is an autopen signature, shouldn't it match other such signatures on record?

92 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: pepperhead

Then I'll need a glossary. Or, at least, an Acronym Bootcamp.


93 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by Bernard (Let Freedom Reign)
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To: pieces of time

J Fraud Kerry!

What a great use of words!


94 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Grampa Dave

Anyone else hearing TAPS!


95 posted on 08/28/2004 7:49:54 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: Grampa Dave
Someone needs to save any pictures and references to any medals on moi Kerri's website. If any are still on his site, they will be gone before the day is over.

Not exactly.

96 posted on 08/28/2004 7:50:00 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Everything I've heard indicates that replacement citations are simply copied from the original in the files, and are not newly signed.

Nobody has provided SOP for providing replacement citations for Vietnam era awards, as of the time the Lehman-signed citations were produced.

Even if the replacements were a "favor" for a Senator, they recite virtually the same language as the original citations.

There is no big story in the replacements, except that Kerry lied when he said he didn't throw his medals away, he only threw his medals. In light of fabricating a record to get the awrads in the first place, and lying about atrocities (under the authority of being an eyewitness and participant), throwing away medals and lying about it is small potatoes.

97 posted on 08/28/2004 7:53:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: tdadams

98 posted on 08/28/2004 7:53:31 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider ((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"Hanged On His Own Petard"!


99 posted on 08/28/2004 7:53:55 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Piquaboy

"Let's watch and see how they spin out of this. Of course with the MSM on their side, you may never see this anyplace else."

Well Drudge has it.

The Sun Times has it, and a relative back in Illinois emailed about the Sun Times Article. So no it is on Free Republic.

I'm sure that Hugh, Sean and Rush will be discussing this next week.

So even if the MSM spikes this story, it will have legs.


100 posted on 08/28/2004 7:54:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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