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Hannity & Colmes: Bob Dornan shows US flag that Kerry's group burned while they flew 300 VC flags
self | Aug 27, 2004

Posted on 08/27/2004 6:22:46 PM PDT by Cableguy

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To: diogenes ghost
"Nice Backstroke, almost Olympian"

ROFL!!!

121 posted on 08/27/2004 7:46:17 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: diogenes ghost

Do I win a medal?


122 posted on 08/27/2004 7:46:43 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Jim Robinson
Yup. It was Hanoi Jane, Hanoi John, and Walter Cronkite. We had the war won had it not been for these traitors and their drug-infested hippy followers.

And now sKerry and the rats are doing repeat with war on terror and in Iraq.

123 posted on 08/27/2004 7:48:00 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (Vote the RATS out!!!)
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To: dwilli
I hope that's your last. On final question. WHOM DO YOU DETEST MORE, JOHN KERRY OR BOB DORNAN??
124 posted on 08/27/2004 7:48:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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To: Popman

Right, the lead medal, cuz you sunk like a balloon, you need to quit the talking points and think for yourself.


125 posted on 08/27/2004 7:49:39 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Yup..who needs Pat Caddell when you can have that suppository of poltical wisdom, Ron Reagan, Jr..


126 posted on 08/27/2004 7:50:12 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: LakeLady

I sometimes find myself wondering just what I thought was so bad about Bill and Hillary. Did we ever dream there would be anyone worse to come on the political scene? I admit I didn't but then I never gave it a lot of thought. Guess I thought they were an aberration. Now it scares me to wonder how many more are luking behind the scenes!


127 posted on 08/27/2004 7:51:35 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Cableguy
"The question is: are we going to far with this attack on Kerry?
Can this backfire?
Does Bob Dornan seem like a sane man or a crazy man?"

We are NOT going to far!
We've been quiet for to long.
Screw Kerry and all his idiots!

TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."


Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.



Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE


Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company


Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

128 posted on 08/27/2004 7:54:39 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Dawn_USAF; CheneyChick; ODC-GIRL; The Sailor; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; ...
SINK KERRY PING
"MOUNT 52 : REPEAT"


129 posted on 08/27/2004 7:56:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Let's not overlook one of B-1's many patriotic contributions. Bob Dornan has every right to speak on the issue of Vietnam AND on John Kerry's treasonous acts.

GOD BLESS PATRIOT DORNAN.



The Origin
of the
POW-MIA Bracelets
Anyone who has been around the MIA issue for a few minutes is aware of the POW-MIA bracelets. The bracelets come in various finishes -- I have seen aluminum bracelets as well as bracelets of gold, silver, stainless steel, colored aluminum, copper, and brass. On each bracelet is engraved, at a minimum, the name, rank, service, loss date, and country of loss of a missing man from the Vietnam War. From time to time I have been asked where the bracelets originated. The first bracelets were made by a young lady named Carol Bates, who now works for the Defense POW-Missing Persons Office (that is, she, Carol, was younger then than now, as we all were). Here is Carol's article on the origin of the bracelets.



Carol's article on the Origin of the POW-MIA Bracelets
History of the POW/MIA Bracelets
In recent months, several individuals have contacted me looking for information on the origin of the POW/MIA bracelets worn during the early 1970s. The following is offered for those interested in learning the history of the bracelet phenomena.

I was the National Chairman of the POW/MIA Bracelet Campaign for VIVA (Voices In Vital America), the Los Angeles based student organization that produced and distributed the bracelets during the Vietnam War. Entertainers Bob Hope and Martha Raye served with me as honorary co-chairmen.

The idea for the bracelets was started by a fellow college student, Kay Hunter, and me, as a way to remember American prisoners of war suffering in captivity in Southeast Asia. In late 1969 television personality Bob Dornan (who several years later was elected to the US Congress) introduced us and several other members of VIVA to three wives of missing pilots. They thought our student group could assist them in drawing public attention to the prisoners and missing in Vietnam. The idea of circulating petitions and letters to Hanoi demanding humane treatment for the POWs was appealing, as we were looking for ways college students could become involved in positive programs to support US soldiers without becoming embroiled in the controversy of the war itself. The relatives of the men were beginning to organize locally, but the National League of POW/MIA Families had yet to be formed.

During that time Bob Dornan wore a bracelet he had obtained in Vietnam from hill tribesmen, which he said always reminded him of the suffering the war had brought to so many. We wanted to get similar bracelets to wear to remember US POWs, so rather naively, we tried to figure out a way to go to Vietnam. Since no one wanted to fund two sorority-girl types on a tour to Vietnam during the height of the war, and our parents were livid at the idea, we gave up and Kay Hunter began to check out ways to make bracelets. Soon other activities drew her attention and she dropped out of VIVA, leaving me, another student Steve Frank, and our adult advisor, Gloria Coppin, to pursue
the POW/MIA awareness program.

The major problem was that VIVA had no money to make bracelets, although our advisor was able to find a small shop in Santa Monica that did engraving on silver used to decorate horses. The owner agreed to make 10 sample bracelets. I can remember us sitting around in Gloria Coppin's kitchen with the engraver on the telephone, as we tried to figure out what we would put on the bracelets. This is why they carried only name, rank and date of loss, since we didn't have time to think of anything else.

Armed with the sample bracelets, we set out to find someone who would donate money to make bracelets for distribution to college students. It had not yet occurred to us that adults would want to wear the things, as they weren't very attractive. Several approaches to Ross Perot were rebuffed, to include a proposal that he loan us $10,000 at 10% interest. We even visited Howard Hughes' senior aides in Las Vegas. They were sympathetic but not willing to help fund our project. Finally in the late summer of 1970, Gloria Coppin's husband donated enough brass and copper to make 1,200 bracelets. The Santa Monica engraver agreed to make them and we could pay him from any proceeds
we might realize.

Although the initial bracelets were going to cost about 75 cents to make, we were unsure about how much we should ask people to donate to receive a bracelet. In 1970, a student admission to the local movie theater was $2.50. We decided this seemed like a fair price to ask from a student for one of the nickel-plated bracelets. We also made copper ones for adults who believed they helped their "tennis elbow." Again, according to our logic adults could pay more, so we would request $3.00 for the copper bracelets.

At the suggestion of local POW/MIA relatives, we attended the National League of Families annual meeting in Washington, DC in late September. We were amazed at the interest of the wives and parents in having their man's name put on bracelets and in obtaining them for distribution. Bob Dornan, who was always a champion of the POW/MIAs and their families, continued to publicize the issue on his Los Angeles television talk show and promoted the bracelets.

On Veterans Day, November 11, 1970, we officially kicked off the bracelet program with a news conference at the Universal Sheraton Hotel. Public response quickly grew and we eventually got to the point we were receiving over 12,000 requests a day. This also brought money in to pay for brochures, bumper stickers, buttons, advertising and whatever else we could do to publicize the POW/MIA issue. We formed a close alliance with the relatives of missing men - they got bracelets from us on consignment and could keep some of the money they raised to fund their local organizations. We also tried to furnish these groups with all the stickers and other literature they could give away.

While Steve Frank and I ended up dropping out of college to work for VIVA full time to administer the bracelet and other POW/MIA programs, none of us got rich off the bracelets. VIVA's adult advisory group, headed by Gloria Coppin, was adamant that we would not have a highly paid professional staff. As I recall the highest salary was $15,000, a year and we were able to keep administrative costs to less than 20 percent of income.

In all, VIVA distributed nearly five million bracelets and raised enough money to produce untold millions of bumper stickers, buttons, brochures, matchbooks, newspaper ads, etc., to draw attention to the missing men. In 1976, VIVA closed its doors. By then the American public was tired of hearing about Vietnam and showed no interest in the POW/MIA issue.



-- Carol Bates Brown


130 posted on 08/27/2004 7:56:21 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: July 4th
The fact is, Cadell is 100% correct on this. It was an insanely stupid move to make the centerpiece of a campaign 4 months of questionable service in Vietnam, followed by years anti-war protesting. There's nothing more to say about it - it was simply a horrible strategic miscalculation on the part of Kerry.

They pulled sKerrys Vietnam "record" to show his "accomplishments" vs. Bush with aim to show that sKerry can be better Commander in Chief. (Nothing else much to run on.) They thought that they will get away with propaganda in MSM and everything will be honky-dory, jus' like Clintoon managed. Thank God for brave Vets and their stand. Each buck sent to their fund is worth thousands spent by rats on smearing Bush for years.

131 posted on 08/27/2004 7:57:02 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (Vote the RATS out!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Great point. In the seventies I used to watch his show. He had a tv show with Filbin (help me out here if from LA in 70's).

At that time Dornan was exactly the same as he is today.

He has his ducks in a row.


132 posted on 08/27/2004 7:57:11 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: ken5050

I detest that smarmy little toad-Ron Jr. You never know about genes...I can not understand how Ron and Nancy produced Ron Jr. He thinks he is a player...and that his commentary is scintillating...He's a bore, condescending to his audience...'the swift boat nonsense.' The only reason he is on Talk shows is that his Dad was Reagan-Ron Jr. has no talent. His Dad was the great communicator; he connected with people. Ron Jr. is so self centered...he is completely clueless how he comes across. This guy won't last...a famous Dad might get you a toe in the door...but after that you have to have something to offer. The guy is a dorky, no talent.


133 posted on 08/27/2004 7:57:32 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

SINK KERRY PING
"MOUNT 52 : REPEAT"

bump


134 posted on 08/27/2004 7:57:47 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: dwilli
Oh yes there is ...

They would like the whole thing to DISAPPEAR!

They would like this whole story to evaporate into the ether and none ever question the events surrounding Kerry's four and one half months in Vietnam, Republic of!

Oh wait, I just used an exclamation point at the end of the sentence.

Does that make me a "foaming at the mouth" conservative of the "extra Y chromosome" type, and hereby designated as unfit for public debate?

I'll contact Ben Stein and make sure that he alone is the sole spokesman for the SVFTT.


I still love you man. I really do.
135 posted on 08/27/2004 7:57:52 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Kerry broke the faith, pure and simple.)
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To: nyconse

Good rant..hope it helps you to sleep well tonight...(G)


136 posted on 08/27/2004 7:58:29 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: Iberian

They don't call him B-bomber Dornan for nothing. By the way Sanchez stole that election...in the grand Democratic tradition.


137 posted on 08/27/2004 7:58:31 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Gunrunner2

Caddell had to say something like that, he knows the worst stuff is yet to come. I would bet a commercial of POW/MIA wives is in the works and it will be devestating.


138 posted on 08/27/2004 7:58:43 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You bet it was great visuals! Seeing that burned American Flag hits you right in the heart. Not just any American Flag, but The American Flag burned by Kerry and his gang.


139 posted on 08/27/2004 7:58:45 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Just mythoughts

Yes and thank you all. I have saved it and I promise not to misplace it. Now it needs publicizing! My email to Hannity keeps getting returned and that's when I use his own webpage. Strange.

Those of us who care about this situation are already aware of everything that is available out there to read and there are the others who do not want to be bothered. Would trying to get this publicized do any good? I don't have much hope of convincing those hard heads that we see nightly on TV. I think most of us can also count them in our family, jobs and circle of friends.

Wonder why we haven't seen these pictures on TV or magazines? Silly question.


140 posted on 08/27/2004 7:59:44 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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