Posted on 08/27/2004 10:25:04 AM PDT by spyone
it was a monday I believe.
The tail AND BOTH ENGINES fell off.
They fell off for the same reason: The plane was flying sideways, out of control.
The reason it was flying sideways, out of control, is that a bomb disrupted the controls.
Welcome noob. Or are you a returning banned/discredited airline shill?
Ping for later.
Doubt this will get much play, even if true. Fact is the powers that be have a vested interest in ignoring "isolated incidences".
I don't fly anymore because
1) I despise subecting myself to the minimum-IQ airport gestapo
2) The NTSB/FBI/ETC. lies
You know, until the most recent Nichols trial, I never really thought about a deeper plot or cover up much, but the news reported some pretty bizarre things that didn't always connect for me. Of course having said that, I do know that getting it from the local OKC TV & radio news stations and papers is different than being in the court room.
I remember that day clearly as well and your account is accurate.
I think it will if it makes it to the NYC local newscast. The families may want to reopen the investigation in light of this new revelation.
I was at a hotel the mornig AA 587 went down watching Fox News, I saw a guy wearing an "FBI" jacket walk up to the engine laying in the gas station parking lot and take something from the engine, put it in his pocket and walk away.
The next time the same video was run (approx 5 mins) You could see him walk up and look at the engine and walk away...
No bending down or picking up anything, just a walk by.
I said to Myself-COVER UP!!!
WTF.....
See My #89 post
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The thing that struck me was, not so much that the story changed, but the finality of the change.
Like someone threw a switch and everything these people were saying, which I had heard with my own ears, disappeared.
I'm not a conspiracy buff, but reporters don't usually act this way, unless they're covering up for a Democrat. Just ask Kobe Bryant.
Engine mounts are not designed for a 200 - 300 mph side load at takeoff thrust.
I'm sorry, they just aren't. The tail wasn't even designed to withstand exaggerated pilot rudder inputs.
If it was at cruise altitude and throttles were way back and the tail came off, they might have hung on longer.
"Where is Jdey?" indeed. The Fibbies issued an alert for him in 2002 & there was a reported sighting of him in 2004. Does the 'Religion of Peace' allow for reincarnation in the event that 72 virgins tucker a feller out?
He's got those "nobody's home" eyes that the 9-11 hijackers had. I swear those people are demon possessed. IF you ever see one of them on a plane, kill them immediately or kiss your butt good bye. :-) In all seriousness, those guys are pure evil.
Do you see his name on the passenger list? I don't see anyone carrying a Canadian passport.
Passengers
Manuel Abreu, Dominican Republic
Juana Abreu, US
Candida Rosa Acosta, US
Oneida Acosta De Araujo, US
Rosa Alcantara, US
Selene Alcantara, Dominican Republic
Danny Alcantara Taveras, Dominican Republic
Hipolito Algarroba, US
Ubencia Algarroba, US
Josefina Allende, US
Ramon Almanzar, US
Rosa Almanzar, Dominican Republic
Juan Almonte, Dominican Republic
Luz Alvarado, Dominican Republic
Rafael Alvarez, US
Marina Aponte, US
Regina Arroyo Molina, US
Jovanny Baez, Dominican Republic
Noemi Batista, US
Lialette Batista, US
Tito Bautista, Dominican Republic
Baudilio Bautista, US
Xiomara Betances, Dominican Republic
Dennis Blair, US
Jose Bonilla, US
Wilberto Brito, US
Pedro Brito Rodriguez, US
Angela (Maria) Burdier, Dominican Republic
Martina Burdier De Rodriguez, US
Maria Burdier Tapia, Dominican Republic
Robert Cabrera, Dominican Republic
Consesora Calaff, US
Ramon Calderon, US
Petronila Capellan, US
Genimiz Carty, US
Juana Castillo, US
Santana Castillo Fernandez, US
Sobeira Cedeno, US
Angel Celestino, US
Christina Charles, US
David (Ching) Chen, Taiwan
Victor Cornelio, Dominican Republic
Juan Coronado, US
Gladys Coronado, US
Danilo Corporan, Dominican Republic
Eduarda Corporan, US
Janet Corporan (infant)
Gisela Cuello, US
Indira Cuevas, US
Federico de la Asuncion, US
Karla de la Cruz, US
Clara de la Cruz, US
Leonardo de la Cruz, US
Leonte de la Cruz, US
Marino de la Cruz, Dominican Republic
Angela de la Cruz, Dominican Republic
Glen de la Cruz, US
Maria de la Cruz, US
Alexandra de la Cruz, US
Juan de la Cruz, US
Rafael de la Cruz, US
Alcibiades de la Cruz, US
Ramona de Leon Corporan, US
Nieves de los Santos, Dominican Republic
Guadalupe del Rosario De Peralta, US
Eustaquio Delarosa, US
Reynida Delgado, Dominican Republic
Patricia Demarchena, Dominican Republic
Lorenzo Despradel, US
Robert Despradel, US
Roberto Despradel (infant)
Julia Diaz
Victor Diaz, US
Francisco Diaz, Dominican Republic
Luz Diaz, US
Maria Diaz, Dominican Republic
Alejandro Diaz, US
Eduvige Diaz Pachano De Bright, Dominican Republic
D Angelo Dilone, US
Julia Dominguez, US
Adriano Espino, Dominican Republic
Florentine Estrella, US
Miguelina Fabre, US
Marra Filanovsky, US
Ilya Filanovsky, US
Lasar Flores, US
Mariana Flores, US
Lasar (Isaiah) Flores, US
Anthony (Antonio) Forteza, US
Nalda Galva de Reynoso, Dominican Republic
Milagros Garcia Perez, US
Eduardo George, US
Milton George, US
Felix Gervacio, US
Jose Gomez Contrera, US
Pedro Gonzalez, Dominican Republic
Carmen Gonzalez, US
Regina Gonzalez, US
Sylvie Greleau, Great Britain (see note below)
Altagracia Guerrero, US
Dariana Guerrero, US
Diomarys Guerrero, US
Glenda Guzman, US
Johnny Guzman, US
Nicolasa Guzman De Mercedes, Dominican Republic
Miguel Guzman Jr, US
Marion Hartigan, US
Teofilo Hernandez, Dominican Republic
Juan Hernandez, Dominican Republic
Carla Hernandez, US
Joanny Hernandez, US
Jean Heuze, France
Yohanly Hidalgo, US
Dario Hidalgo, US
Alexander Hodge, US
Joseph Huber, US
Frances Huber, US
Sarah Huertas, US
Jose Vicente Infante, US
Yamil Jerez, US
Humberto Jimenez, Dominican Republic
Yesica Jimenez, Dominican Republic
Jayke Jimenez (infant)
Roberto Jimenez Perez, US
Ernestina Jiminian, US
Jose Lafontaine, Dominican Republic
Melvin Landsman, US
Elaine Landsman, US
Luz Maria Lendof, Dominican Republic
Marcelina Liriano Guerrero, US
Mercedes Lopez, US
Emily Lopez, US
Argentina Lopez, US
Roberto Lopez Jr, US
Jose Lora, US
Karl Lora, US
Mercedes Luciano De Veloz, US
Maricio Made, Dominican Republic
Ana Made, Dominican Republic
Victor Marcano, US
Digna Marte, Dominican Republic
German Martinez, Dominican Republic
Aurora Martinez, US
Yanelly Martinez, US
Angel Martinez, US
Sura Martinez, US
Juan Martinez, Dominican Republic
Ibelise Martinez De Goris, Dominican Republic
Nieve Mason, Dominican Republic
Virgilia Mateo, US
Nuris Matias, US
Dominga Matias, Dominican Republic
Orlando Matos Perez, US
Hilda Mayol, US
Carmen Medina, Dominican Republic
Wilfrido Medrano, US
Ashot Melikjanian, US
Grace Mena, US
Wilton Mendez, US
Daisy Montalvo, US
Diane Monte, US
Remedios Montilla, Dominican Republic
Antonia Morales, US
Luis Morales, US
Efrain Mota, US
Luis Munoz, US
Alen Noboa, US
Victoria Nova Rivera, US
Ana Nunez
Fatima Nunez, Dominican Republic
Aaliya Nunez Reynoso (infant), US
Siegried Objio, US
Rosanna Ogando, Dominican Republic
Ramon Oviedo Germoso, US
Angel Paradis, US
Carmen Pena, Dominican Republic
Katherine Pena, US
Michael Pena, US
Magnolia Pena Nadir, US
Yelisa Peralta, Dominican Republic
Ramon Peralta, Dominican Republic
Augusto Peralta, US
Fernando Perez, US
Carmen Perez, Dominican Republic
Jose Perez, Dominican Republic
Maria Perez Mendez, Dominican Republic
Luis Perreaux, US
Jean Phanord, Haiti
Luis Pichardo, Dominican Republic
Ramona Pimentel, Dominican Republic
Nurys Polanco, US
Ercilia Polanco, US
Reyna Prospero, US
Joseph Ramirez, US
Victor Ramirez, Dominican Republic
Jose Ramirez, Dominican Republic
Rafael Ravelo, Dominican Republic
Eleuteria Reid-Hay, US
Agapito Reyes, Dominican Republic
Roberto Reyes, US
Norbeto Rivera, US
Julio Rodriguez, US
Ruben Rodriguez, US
Julia Rodriguez, US
Maria Rodriguez, US
Lucia Rodriguez Almonte, US
Juana Rojas Javier, Dominican Republic
Mercedes Roman, US
Whilman Rosa, US
Angel Rosa, US
Jose Rosa Toledo, Dominican Republic
Danilo Rosario Castillo, Dominican Republic
Rosa Ruiz, US
Johanna Sanchez, US
Gilbert Sanchez (infant)
Felix Sanchez, US
Luis Sanchez, US
Jose Sanchez, US
Elvis Sanchez, US
Timo Santala, US
Iris Magali Santana, Dominican Republic
Jose Siri, US
Imelda Solis, US
Daria Soriano De Batista, Dominican Republic
Asencion Sosa, US
Franklin Soto, US
Balbina Soto De Rodriguez, US
Angela Suazo Perez, US
Lina Tabar, Dominican Republic
Milagros Tabar, Dominican Republic
Maria Tatis, US
Jose Tatis Minaya, Dominican Republic
Guadalupe Taveras, US
Ivelisse Taveras, Dominican Republic
Adaline Tejeda, US
Evelyn Tolentino, US
Po Tseng, Taiwan
Feliciano Valera Sierra, US
Maximo Valerio, Dominican Republic
Norma Valoy, US
Maria Vargas, US
Ilan Vaserman, Israel
Zeneida Vega, Dominican Republic
Carlos Veloz, US
Braudilio Veloz, US
Gloria Ventin, US
Cristopher Ventin, US
Maria Del Carmen Ventura, Dominican Republic
Nicola Villella, US
Kathleen Williams, US
Cesar Zabala, US
Note The Foreign Office has said passenger Sylvie Greleau, identified as British by American Airlines, carried a French passport and as far it was concerned she was French. Ms Greleau, a sales and marketing director for Menzies Aviation Group, was formerly based in London.
Thank you. You are, well, a Peach.
You are missing the reason the tail fell off. The engines fell off because you can't fly an engine cowling sideways. The engines are stuck on pretty good. Frogbus engines are NOT designed to come off in case of a gear-up "landing." And that carbon fiber tail is pretty tough too.
SO unless you have TWO good reasons for large surfaces to come off, you have to conclude the ONE good reason: they don't like to fly sideways, is the ONE reason large surfaces came off the plane.
This is actually common in air crashes where the plane is out of control: loss of control, followed by "unusal attitude," followed by large surfaces coming apart. Google up "unusal attitude" and see for yourself.
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