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Survey says whites not majority in Texas anymore
KLTV 7 TX ^ | August 26, 2004 | KLTV 7 TX

Posted on 08/26/2004 6:45:42 PM PDT by Conservative Firster

HOUSTON White non-Hispanics are no longer the majority in Texas -- for the first time since the 1800's.

Today's Census Bureau survey says whites stopped being the majority in Texas as of last year.

Also, the numbers show that Texas joined only Illinois and North Carolina in having a poverty rate that measurably increased -- while income decreased -- in 2002-03.

Texas state demographer Steve Murdock says the two trends are related as economic woes have slowed white migration from other states.

Luis Figueroa with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund says the future of Latinos is the future of Texas, as the population numbers show.

Also:

-- Most of the Texas population expansion since 2000 has come from births and international immigration -- both sources of predominantly Hispanic growth.

-- The black population remained basically flat, at around ten-point-eight percent.

-- Asian-Americans now account for about three percent of the Texas population.


TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigdeal; butaretheytexans; immigration; mexico; sowhat; texas; thesunstillcomesup; whocares
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To: texastoo

City of Houston's demographics are killed by the fact that 33% of its voting population is black.

Besides, the position is non-partisan. The last (Republican) mayor was Louis White, IIRC. The last (Republican) to get close to winning was in 2001, Orlando Sanchez, a Hispanic, who got nearly 60-65% of the Hispanic vote, IIRC, in his campaign against incumbent Lee Brown. He lost by a few thousand votes.


141 posted on 08/26/2004 10:39:52 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: Porterville
I will suggest generalities about Anglos....

Do you mean British people? Otherwise that's another even more stupid lump-together word. You really think Germans, Italians, Polish, English, Greeks, Swedes, French, Dutch all share an exact same culture and history? That's a stupider word than hispanic is.

142 posted on 08/26/2004 10:39:58 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

Ah man, you want to have another google statistics war?.... don't make me pull up numbers..... alright, but I want to run to Vons first.


143 posted on 08/26/2004 10:40:34 PM PDT by Porterville (How can the median price of a home in CA be 450,000 dollars? How? Where is the money?)
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To: Porterville

you are not telling the truth and you are glossing over the fact that the Mex-American voting pattern is 2-1 leftist, .

Non-Hispanic whites are between 54-60% Conservative voting.

Outside of Texas, Mexican Americans voted 68% for Gore in Kali and even higher elsewhere.

W did a bit better in TX, with Gore only beating him among Hispanics by 11 points. I don't think all that was cause W was a native son....TX has a fair number of ol timey Mex-American families from way back.


144 posted on 08/26/2004 10:42:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Sam Spade

You're wrong about Tijuana and Baja --- they were actually important for the PAN party and Fox's election:

The fall of the PAN

Baja California has historically given strong support to the PAN, which nearly ousted the PRI from power in two fraud-ridden elections in the 1950s and '60s. The PRI finally lost Baja California in 1989, when PAN mayor Ernesto Ruffo of Ensenada successfully ran to became Mexico's first opposition governor.

With that watershed election, Baja California became the vanguard of Mexico's democratic transition, and a PAN stronghold. As the PAN picked up further victories in other states and major cities in the 1990s, laying a foundation for Vicente Fox's surprise victory in the 2000 Mexican presidential elections.

Governed by the PAN through five consecutive mayoral administrations, Tijuana was a model of PAN success. Only two other major cities, Len and Mérida, were held by the PAN for so long. The PAN's emphasis on "good government" combined administrative transparency with expanded public works and services in Tijuana.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040808/news_lz1e8shirk.html

A lot of the problem is that Mexico has a lot of Communist and leftist parties and there is no Conservative party, nothing like a Republican party in spite of many decades of democracy. Mexico has over 70% of it's labor force unionized. It's just not a country overflowing with Conservatives.


145 posted on 08/26/2004 10:46:08 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Porterville

I'm not generalizing. I'm looking up stats on Google.

I can't pull this stuff right outta my head.

I'm glad you are against illegal immigration. I think we need to slow down all immigration.

yes...I know I'm an Anglo-Centric Gringo but hey.....I'm honest about it.

I don't know of anywhere else in the world where cultural hegemony is invited and celebrated....and I've lived plenty of places including about everywhere at some point in the Latino parts of the Americas.

Got two half Brasilian daughters on my homepage to prove it.


146 posted on 08/26/2004 10:47:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Porterville; wardaddy
I know and a full 50% of them are dems.... what a drain.

Not true.

Lets assume for arguments sake that the population breaks down roughly 50% Democrat and 50% Republican. Blacks are 13% of the electorate, and vote 90% Democrat. Hispanics are 6% of the electorate and vote 66% Democrat. Jews are 3% of the electorate and vote 66%+ Democrat. Asians are 2% of the electorate and vote 50%+ Democrat.

Knowing that, we can solve for the Christian White voting breakdown.

Christian White Democrats = 50% total - 12% points Black - 4% points Hispanic - 2% points Jewish - 1% point Asian = 31% point White.

Christian White Republicans = 50% total - 1% point Black - 2% point Hispanic - 1% point Jewish - 1% point Asian = 45% point White.

45/76 = 59% Republican among Christian whites.

Even more interesting, Irish Americans tend to vote evenly 50% Republican, 50% Democrat at best for the Republicans. They are around 14% of the population. Take them out of the equation, and you have the figure for non-Irish White Christian Republicans: 38/62 = 62%.

Look around at your typical non-Northeast all-white area of the country (meaning not many Irish whites), such as North Dakota or Utah or Kentucky or Indiana and you find Republicans on average get 62% of the votes. This percentage will even generally hold in Polish and Italian neighborhoods in the northeast. It is a very good predictor for non-Irish white Christian voting behavior - 5 of every 8 will vote Republican.

The only Hispanic group that mirrors into this pattern currently is the Cubans.

147 posted on 08/26/2004 10:47:31 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Porterville

Sure ---- I pulled up some numbers and articles to support my positions --- and you have not. You are making things up and like someone else has pointed out, the Conservative "hispanics" of Texas are likely not from Mexico or they are from immigrant families from many years ago --- such as those families that left Mexico at the time of the Revolution --- and some of them are very good Conservatives. I hope you know some of the history of the Mexican Revolution --- and who was driven out of Mexico at that time.


148 posted on 08/26/2004 10:48:53 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

Registered just means they signed up at the Church. Mass attendance in Hispanic neighborhoods at least up north where I am familiar with the situation (as also in poor white neighborhoods) is appallingly low.


149 posted on 08/26/2004 10:49:25 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: wardaddy

I think I'll quit my job, go on welfare, live on budweiser and sub sandwiches. What is the point of working if all the government wants to do is take it away. Just sit back take your Welfare check, and eat, drink, be merry. Let some other sad sorry sap work for me.


150 posted on 08/26/2004 10:50:30 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: wardaddy

One other thing, the rule of Hispanics in Texas is that if, as a Republican, you get 35% of the Hispanic vote, it's pretty much impossible to lose the state.

In recent years, Republicans have been getting at least 40% of the Hispanic vote in Texas, which explains their dominance of state offices (George Bush in 1998, re-election got over 50%). When Dems ran Tony Sanchez in 2002, they could only get the figure down to 30% and he got absolutely massacred among white voters and lost 58-40.

It's rather funny, when you look at the exit polls, Gore won the Hispanic vote by roughly 70-30% nationwide. Only in the South, helped by Texas and Florida, did Bush receive rough parity among Hispanics, outdoing Gore by a 50-48 margin.


151 posted on 08/26/2004 10:51:08 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: FITZ
You are correct, I was only talking about English... most specifically the from the Angle stock from Nothern England.

Right here, right on this map.


152 posted on 08/26/2004 10:51:44 PM PDT by Porterville (How can the median price of a home in CA be 450,000 dollars? How? Where is the money?)
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To: FITZ

They are like all of us, Capitalist by nature, but capitalism has issues that get sorted out in later generations with education.
When my parents came here, they worked their butts off to make sure I got and education. Because of that I employ 22 people, I grew to be a Reagan Rep.

You mention instant, nothing is instant. If that were the case we could protect our borders overnight and that would solve the problem.



153 posted on 08/26/2004 10:52:50 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: FITZ
How many times have we had this argument where I pull real numbers from the census burrow? Do I have to do it again? I will.... I don't want to but will do the same old dance again. What is the dance in El Paso? The Flamenco?
154 posted on 08/26/2004 10:53:34 PM PDT by Porterville (How can the median price of a home in CA be 450,000 dollars? How? Where is the money?)
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To: wardaddy

I wouldn't go barring any cataclysms. The awakening of Europeans to their fate isn't going to be pretty for the minorities without money or military equipment.


155 posted on 08/26/2004 10:53:37 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Sam Spade

Texas has always had Spanish ancestried people --- and many of them were so far from Mexico City for the same reason American pioneers were far from their densely populated areas --- they were never that closely associated with the government of Mexico in the first place, some fought the Mexicans at the Alamo for the independence of Texas. Also there was a big influx of people during the time of the Mexican Revolution --- and many of them are somewhat like Cuban refugees. Some of the professional/middle class moving in from Mexico are also real conservatives. With the campesinos moving over now, only a few are really conservatives or find the idea of conservatism appealing. Most of the indigent class coming over isn't conservative at all.


156 posted on 08/26/2004 10:55:32 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

yep....my tribe and the Cubans are about the only dependable Conservative voters left. I'm a Mississippi homeboy peckerwood...they voted 82% for W.

I will confess though that even here in fairly liberal Nashville where I reside that it's still easy to be a Righty.

I know it's harder for others and I respect their diligence.


157 posted on 08/26/2004 10:57:22 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

It is here too. Even with Spanish masses you don't see anywhere close to the number of people living in the area -- and the Jehovah Witness halls and evangelical tent services seem to be attracting many more. I suppose that isn't all bad.


158 posted on 08/26/2004 10:57:42 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Only Holland ironically seems to be getting a wee bit tired of it all so far.

Stupid France as usual seem more preoccupied with the poor Jews than the Islamists....boy, that defies logic.


159 posted on 08/26/2004 10:58:56 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Porterville

Cumbia.


160 posted on 08/26/2004 10:59:02 PM PDT by FITZ
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