Skip to comments.Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al Qaeda [Speech by John Loftus]
Posted on 08/26/2004 1:04:56 PM PDT by 68skylark
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I've become a little more interested in the Muslim Brotherhood in the past few days -- I live just down the road from Notre Dame University. They were going to have a certain Muslim Professor come to teach, but his visa was denied by Homeland Security. The professor, Tariq Ramadan, is reported to be related to the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
But he's always an interesting read.
Loftus rocks. IMO, he's solid but often painted as a liberal.
The propaganda minister for the Muslim Brotherhood in the 50's and the 60's, Sayyid Qutb, is known as the "Trotsky of the Islamist movement." His writings have inspired many modern terrorists movements, including Al Qaeda.
The author is a very solid researcher who has written a number of interesting books about Communist use of Nazi, Catholic, and Western agents against their own governments.
From another thread.....my post
One should not visit the sins of the father on the kid, but the son of the founder of the Brotherhood? This guy had advocated stoning for cheating wives, albeit with conditions to satisfy the naive. I view him as the enabler of jihad, all dressed nice and all, softspoken, ostensibly rational but very very smart.
AQ is simply an extension of the MB, long sheltered in Saudi.
Remember, Zawahiri was an MB'er. Osama's mentor Azzam was also MB.
Ghost Wars BUMP! Steven Coll.
Also, James Risen and Milt Bearden's The Main Enemy is worthwhile.
Muslims can cite incidents of usury and betrayal by European World Powers.
Unfortunately, we the USA will suffer the back-lash as the "Infidel Crusaders". Didn't the original Crusaders come from Germany and France?
Germany and France get a free pass. Islam, Naziism, Thugocracy, Dictatorship--all have more in common to the ME than does America.
Obviously there was blowback, but the belief that we were wrong to arm the mujahadeen is itself grievously wrong. The Soviet disaster in Afghanistan does not happen without the Stingers and without the disaster the Soviet Union does not fall either as it did or when it did.
Asking if it was wrong to arm the mujas is like asking if it was wrong to send the Sovbiets 3/4 million trucks, 8500 Sherman tanks. 7,000 P39 & P 40 aircraft to help them fight their Great Patriotic War against the Nazis. BTW we sent aid BEFORE we were at war. What was the result? 50 years on the nuclear mousetrap until Ronald Reagan, Bill Casey brought down the house. Arming the mujas was no small part in that effort.
It's very possible that some power we are enlisting to help us with al Queda will come back to bite us in the future. But since we can't see the future we can only deal with one enemy ata time.
I always thought that radical Muslims are strongly anti-communist. But when I read about Prof. Ramadan (the guy who was denied a visa to teach at Notre Dame) it sounds like he's building a philosophy that's more or less compatible with Marxism. So that makes me wonder. Am I mis-understanding his work? Is he not a radical Muslim? Are radical Muslims changing their doctrine?
For example, here's one article that I'm using for background: Tariq Ramadan's Two-Faced Islam. The West Is the Land of Conquest
Sayyed Quttub and Maududi (who started the JamaatIslaami in Pakistan), while anticommies, overlaid their islami with the Vanguard prole rhetoric and organistational skills of the Marxistts to galvanise their followers.
THey haven't changed, We overlooked it for decades because they were a bulwark against COmmunism.
Ramadan is building on the sayings of these two, layering it with enough PC feely good rhetoric now, but, essentially supporting AQ which styles itself as the VanGuard, Tipof the Spear of the drive to worldwide Wahhabism.
I've just started learning a little about Dr. Ramadan, and I am a long way away from reaching the conclusions you've reached about him.
I suspect that Homeland Security probably has some information that isn't public (although the public information is worrisome enough). I think I trust their judgment on this matter -- much more than I trust the ND administration to make the right decisions.
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