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Gag Orders (Our two parties say democracy would be better off if you would shut up)
American Spectator/American Prowler ^ | 8/24/2004 | George Neumayr

Posted on 08/23/2004 9:30:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The Founding Fathers established the First Amendment to protect two forms of speech: political and religious. Yet in a typically perverse irony of our time, these blameless exercises of the First Amendment are regarded as "shocking" violations of it while a growing culture of obscenity not protected by the framers receives its imprimatur. Daily we're told of sinister "outside groups" churning out...political speech. "Outside groups" is treated as a discussion-ending epithet by both the Bush and Kerry camps. Why the existence of independent groups should strike fear into the hearts of Americans is never explained. Is the United States of America owned by the Democratic and Republican parties?

It would be difficult to come up with a more blatant violation of the First Amendment than the McCain-Feingold idiocy now accorded the utmost respect in our political culture. Concerned citizenship has become a felony. Pols feel comfortable rebutting "issue ads" -- a phrase which is supposed to convey unspeakable malignity -- not by saying that the ads are wrong but by declaring that they should not air at all. Pols cleave to the Federal Election Commission like Bolsheviks unwilling to abide any criticism outside tightly controlled state channels. They won't enforce obscenity laws but they will ask the FEC to enforce the new laws against the very political speech the Constitution was written to protect.

Should these outrageous laws serve as a stimulus to civil disobedience, it will be interesting to see how far these phonies will go to protect their incumbency. All of their favorite pejoratives -- "special interests," "issue ads," "outside groups" -- amount to nothing more than political speech that makes it difficult for them to win reelection. Future generations will likely wonder how the American people could so passively allow corrupt politicians to criminalize political speech that threatened to unseat them.

The provisions of the McCain-Feingold laws seem comically unreal. "I criticized John McCain in an issue ad 60 days before his reelection," is a potential jailhouse yarn at this point. The media are still sore about an "outside group" knocking McCain out of the 2000 presidential race. With his new monarchical powers, McCain, should concerned citizens ever try such a stunt again, can ask the Justice Department to jail them for up to five years.

While McCain touts democracy abroad, he curtails it at home, on the grounds that our democracy somehow can't handle "negative attack ads" which "do little to further beneficial debate." Even the groups permitted under the new laws -- the 527s -- apparently aren't supposed to speak during an election. The Democrats don't mind them right now, since they have more of them than the Republicans. But were Kerry the target of $60 million worth of ads by them he would join Bush in saying, as he did on Monday, that "I don't think we ought to have 527s."

Notice that both campaigns respond to ads by calling for their suppression -- a revealing measure of McCain-Feingold's straightforward silencing of political speech. Calls to suppress free speech would once have been politically dangerous. Now they are standard fare in the culture of McCain-Feingold which allows those with power to define the rules for its challenge, rigging the game in favor of established pols at the expense of individuals. The media, happy to go along with the silencing of the citizenry as that means their power increases, cast the suppression of free speech, a move they wouldn’t tolerate in any other context, as "reform."

The destruction of the real purposes of the First Amendment is complete when pols can dignify obscenities with the name of free speech while treating "issue ads" as intolerable obscenities worth punishing with jail time.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 527; bush; campaignfinance; cfr; democrat; feingold; firstammendment; foundingfathers; freespech; kerry; mccain; mccainfeingold; republican
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1 posted on 08/23/2004 9:30:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Lancey Howard

George Neumayr Ping


2 posted on 08/23/2004 9:31:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

BTTT


3 posted on 08/23/2004 9:32:30 PM PDT by NYTexan (....back to the bunker!....)
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To: nickcarraway

This would make another great issue for the Swift Vets, that is Kerry trying to overrule the first amendment.


4 posted on 08/23/2004 9:33:13 PM PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas

"...Kerry trying to overrule the first amendment."

By the same token, so is the RNC!

Time to outlaw all LAWYERS! Send them to Iran or Iraq to practice, The muslims will KNOW we are the devil then for sure!


5 posted on 08/23/2004 9:35:32 PM PDT by steplock
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To: nickcarraway

Hey! haven't seen you around for awhile.
Thanks for the GN ping.


6 posted on 08/23/2004 9:38:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: steplock

This is the mess we get when we elect lawyers to run our country. They will always protect their best interests first. And they know non lawyers are intimidated from challenging their credibility or the lack of.

We are finished as a nation if we allow politicians to suppress dissent against them.


7 posted on 08/23/2004 9:42:33 PM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: nickcarraway
Concerned citizenship has become a felony.

If that is the case, then I have just lost my job...

My job is safety and security sensitive, therefore since I am concerned, do I need to bother showing up for work tomorrow?

8 posted on 08/23/2004 9:44:13 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: steplock; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"...Kerry trying to overrule the first amendment."
By the same token, so is the RNC!


Dole spoke out against Kerry and in support of the Swift Boat Veterans.

Bush canNOT come out in support of the Swift Boat Veterans' ad because it would be in violation of the Campaign Finance Law. (Kerry gets away with moveon.org's open support of his campaign because of the MSM bias. The 'rats and the MSM alike would jump on W if he indicated any support for the Swift Boat Veterans' ads or organization. ... If you didn't hear Rush's show on Monday, listen to the archives. He not only interviewed O'Neill, he articulated the reasons why W can't openly support the Vets in a much better way than I have.
9 posted on 08/23/2004 9:45:35 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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Yes. The (unspoken) mantra of the left used to be "Free Speech For Me, But Not For Thee". Now it seens to be "Free Speech For Us, But Not For Thee". Us = the establishment parties. onetheless, unspoken here, we need to protect the Republic from the influence of "outside money" outside = extra-national). This (the 21st century version of which) the founders might not have been able to comprehend. Thus, at least, we need FULL DISCLOSURE. Something curiously left out of the traitorous abomination (CFR). I will go to my grave despising McCain for authoring this abomination and Bush for signing it into law.


10 posted on 08/23/2004 9:46:58 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: nickcarraway
"Daily we're told of sinister "outside groups" churning out..."

Some of the "outside groups" being referred to by Kerry and Bush are American veterans and citizens engaging in politics. If you're pro-active in politics and you're not a Washington insider and part of the exclusive club, then you're deemed a meddling 'outsider' by them. Something's wrong with this picture, eh?

11 posted on 08/23/2004 9:55:59 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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Cuts to the heart of it.

Welcome to the new USSA, where two parties split the power of the old CPSU, and tolerate no outside interference.

12 posted on 08/23/2004 10:05:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Bush canNOT come out in support of the Swift Boat Veterans' ad because it would be in violation of the Campaign Finance Law.

President Bush signed that law, still supports it, and, like McCain, Kerry, and the U.S. Supreme Court, opposes free political speech and the spirit, intent, and language of the first Amendment.

President Bush on Monday criticized a commercial that accused John Kerry of inflating his own Vietnam War record, more than a week after the ad stopped running, and said broadcast attacks by outside groups have no place in the race for the White House.

“I think they’re bad for the system,” added Bush, who had ignored calls to condemn the ad while it was on the air.

When asked specifically whether the ads by the group "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" should be halted, Bush said: "All of them. That means that ad, every other ad. Absolutely."

"I can't be more plain about it," Bush said. "I hope my opponent joins me in condemning these activities of the 527s (political groups that sponsor to ads). I think they're bad for the system."
Bush calls for halt to Swift Boat veterans’ ads
MSNBC (FR link) | August 23rd, 2004

Political speech should be free. It is the prerogative and right of citizens to exercise it, and President Bush, Senator Kerry, and the rest of the politicians think vastly too much of themselves to presume to steal it from us.

Funny thing, though: President Bush doesn't believe that CFR applies to him. If he did, he wouldn't be trying to coordinate with 527 orgs by urging them to halt their ads.

President Bush and Senator Kerry envision "the system" as being of the politicians, by the politicians, and for the politicians.

Pity, though, that one of them will win. My noseplug is for Bush.


13 posted on 08/23/2004 10:42:11 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: nickcarraway

What grates on the political class is the little people are still piping up. Those ingrates haven't let learned to bow to their betters.


14 posted on 08/23/2004 10:45:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway

What's all the fuss about?

Politcal thought outside of the two major parties has been stamped out by the FEC for eons!

You cannot be heard politically in this country unless you are a Democrat or a Republican.


15 posted on 08/23/2004 10:48:27 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Sabertooth
My noseplug is for Bush.

My noseplug is for your opinion. I've never been impressed by anything that you in your own wordy way have attempted to say. (Why, by the way, do you feel the need to travel with a stuffed animal?)

You are now the recipient of my first flame.
16 posted on 08/23/2004 11:01:17 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: nickcarraway

Perfect headline. Sums it all up.


17 posted on 08/23/2004 11:05:51 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (A Rosary a day keeps the devil away)
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To: Fawnn
My noseplug is for your opinion. I've never been impressed by anything that you in your own wordy way have attempted to say. (Why, by the way, do you feel the need to travel with a stuffed animal?)

You are now the recipient of my first flame.

No response to President Bush's ongoing efforts to restict free speech?

Or shall we call it a day and glass that over?


18 posted on 08/23/2004 11:06:10 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Wil H

>>You cannot be heard politically in this country unless you are a Democrat or a Republican.<<
Whose fault is that? OURS!!


19 posted on 08/23/2004 11:06:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Don't be so open minded that Your Brains Fall Out--Respect shouldn't be given, It Must Be Earned)
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To: Sabertooth
527 ORGS are citizen orgs that want to be involved in our elections. The day they are banned is the day we should stop wasting money on voters who want to vote for the candidate of their choice.
20 posted on 08/23/2004 11:12:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Don't be so open minded that Your Brains Fall Out--Respect shouldn't be given, It Must Be Earned)
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