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Bodies of WWI soldiers found in Alpine glacier -
ABC News - Australia ^ | August 23, 2004

Posted on 08/22/2004 5:08:17 PM PDT by UnklGene

Bodies of WWI soldiers found in Italian glacier -

The preserved bodies of three Austrian soldiers killed in World War I have been found at the foot of an Italian glacier, 86 years after their deaths, a museum in northern Italy said on Sunday.

They were found by Maurizio Vincenzi, the director of the military history museum at the small town of Peio in the Trentino region, member of a mountain rescue team and military history buff.

The bodies were found 3,400 metres up a mountain called San Matteo and are said to be exceptionally well preserved.

They had been spotted by Vincenzi as he scanned the glacier with binoculars and noticed marks on it.

The area was the scene of fighting between Austrian and Italian troops in 1918 and the Austrian soldiers would have belonged to a regiment based at Dimaro nearby.

It is believed that the men died when they were attacked with grenades.

Their bodies have been taken to a morgue in Peio and will be transferred to a military cemetery.

According to Vincenzi it is 80 years since the preserved body of a World War I soldier has been found.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: alpini; ancientautopsies; austria; forniglacier; glacier; godsgravesglyphs; italy; kaiserschutzen; sanmatteo; soldiers; worldwarone; wwi
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

That as an ice field..not a glacier...since it didn't "move"..The best example of glaciation action is the BOAC airplane lost over the Andes just after WW II...parts of the plane, and the crrew and passenegers turned up a few years ago..hicers found them....some 50 miled from where the crash impact site was determned..they finally figured out the glacier captured and carried everything..it's the ultimate disposal..


21 posted on 08/22/2004 7:01:25 PM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: Shqipo

Yeah, Helprin is about my favorite author, I've read most of his stuff.

His political writing doesn't pull many punches either, does it?


22 posted on 08/22/2004 7:01:58 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: tet68
... horrible conditions to fight in.

Conditions that look more dangerous than enemy bullets.

23 posted on 08/22/2004 7:02:21 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: UnklGene

I'm sure one of the dead Italian soldiers will be holding a press conference within a week to tell the world how John Kerry saved his life.


24 posted on 08/22/2004 7:06:20 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

And no one can question his credibility unless they were in the glacier with him......


25 posted on 08/22/2004 7:09:16 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (When the government seeks to give the people all they want, it will soon take all they have.)
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To: UnklGene

HEY! I KNOW THOSE GUYS!

26 posted on 08/22/2004 7:10:26 PM PDT by Lockbar (Hell starts at home.)
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To: Radioactive

Kinda, refresh my memory


27 posted on 08/22/2004 7:16:57 PM PDT by Vision ("This is in God's hands now")
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To: UnklGene; blam
"Their bodies have been taken to a morgue in Peio and will be transferred to a military cemetery." Wow. I suppose it was possible to identify each of them. Imagine, seeing one's grandfather or great-grandfather for the first time.

It's not true however, that preserved bodies from WWI haven't been found in 80 years. Why, just the other day I found a whole section of Doughboys in the grocery store freezer case. [rimshot!]
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

28 posted on 08/22/2004 8:06:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: qwertz

Nice collection of photos. Looks like you've found a "before" shot:

http://berg.heim.at/almwiesen/410100/Ortler.jpg

;')


29 posted on 08/22/2004 8:08:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: ken5050

I just read a PBS Nova transcript of that story. Very interesting. Wish I had seen the show.


30 posted on 08/22/2004 8:10:18 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (When the government seeks to give the people all they want, it will soon take all they have.)
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To: Sam Cree; Shqipo; UnklGene
A Soldier of the Great War The Myth of the Great War: A New Military History of World War I Paris 1919: Six Months That Changed the World
A Soldier of the Great War
by Mark Helprin
The Myth of the Great War:
A New Military History of World War I

by John Mosier
Paris 1919:
Six Months That Changed the World

by Margaret Macmillan

31 posted on 08/22/2004 8:19:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

FYI..i'm pretty suire you can buy a video..check PBS on-line..


32 posted on 08/23/2004 4:03:31 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: b4its2late

Dude, that's ... well, cold.


33 posted on 08/23/2004 10:46:22 AM PDT by martin_fierro (____oooo_(_º_¿_º_)_oooo_____)
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To: martin_fierro
I know, I know. My bad. I don't snow what got into me.....
34 posted on 08/23/2004 11:37:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: ken5050

Nah.....if I bought every book I wanna read or documentary I wanna see, I would have to get a second job.


35 posted on 08/23/2004 1:47:43 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (When the government seeks to give the people all they want, it will soon take all they have.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

OK by me...I was just trying to be helpful...you know..most of these channels..PBS, Discovery, History, the whole nine yerads..sell videos of most every program..usually cost $15-20 + S&H...like you, I won't spend the $$ either...but you'd think someone would develope a business model to sell them via an internet download...maybe $3-4 a shot..


36 posted on 08/23/2004 1:54:23 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Interesting photos of the Tyrol Campaign WW I.
Lots of mountain arty pix.

http://berg.heim.at/almwiesen/410100/


37 posted on 08/23/2004 5:05:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Vision
Bill Clinton Was up in front of a democrat meeting. The previous day, a story broke about a mummy that was found up in the mountains. It was a woman...about 20 years old at the time of her death.

Bill Clinton commented about the amazing looks of the mummy. He said..." did you happen to see that mummy they found in the mountains?......she looked so good that I would date that mummy."

38 posted on 08/23/2004 9:01:14 PM PDT by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive

He was actually visiting the museum were her body was.


39 posted on 08/23/2004 9:03:20 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Radioactive

Thanks, now I remember that


40 posted on 08/23/2004 9:10:23 PM PDT by Vision ("This is in God's hands now")
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