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Kerry won Vietnam vets' wrath describing what he couldn't see (Jane Fonda mentioned)
Omaha World-Herald ^ | 8/22/04 | HAROLD W. ANDERSEN

Posted on 08/22/2004 3:08:22 PM PDT by Libloather

Kerry won Vietnam vets' wrath describing what he couldn't see
BY HAROLD W. ANDERSEN
Published Sunday, August 22, 2004
WORLD-HERALD CONTRIBUTING EDITOR

It is one of the bigger gambles of the presidential campaign. But with most of the news media looking the other way, John Kerry has been getting away with it so far.

I refer to Kerry's gamble that the news media won't finally take a hard look at his anti-war activities instead of concentrating on his four-plus months of combat-zone experience as a decorated, wounded veteran of the Vietnam War - experience that Kerry incessantly promotes as qualifying him to be president and commander in chief of the armed forces.

There have been occasional, brief news-media references to, but no details of, Kerry's controversial testimony to a U.S. Senate committee. It took place after he opted out of the customary one-year tour of duty under a Navy policy that allowed such an early out if a serviceman so elected after receiving his third Purple Heart.

(The Marines stopped awarding a Purple Heart for a minor wound, even if the Marine received medical treatment. None of Kerry's wounds was serious enough to require hospitalization.)

Let's take a detailed look at Kerry's Capitol Hill testimony. It will, I think, help explain why many Vietnam veterans oppose Kerry's presidential bid.

On April 23, 1971, John Kerry appeared before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, dressed in what appeared to be military fatigues, displaying the ribbons representing his Vietnam War medals (ribbons which he subsequently said he threw over a wire fence onto the Capitol grounds).

Kerry's testimony, widely publicized at the time, included the following allegations, which he offered as facts:

A "Winter Soldier Investigation" (largely financed by actress Jane Fonda) meeting in Detroit a few months earlier heard statements from men who represented themselves to be Vietnam veterans.

Kerry said that "they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam . . . ."

Kerry described such incidents as "crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with a full awareness of officers at all levels of command." Such conduct, he testified, reflected "the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do" and was "accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam."

Kerry's four-plus months of combat-zone experience involved his commanding half a dozen men in a "swift boat" crew as a naval lieutenant, junior grade. Yet, his testimony purported to describe atrocities committed by Army and Marine units serving in the jungles of Vietnam.

"The Army says they never leave their wounded," Kerry said. "The Marines say they never even leave their dead. These men have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude. They've left the real stuff of their reputations bleaching behind them in the sun . . . ."

Is it any wonder that outraged Vietnam veterans have formed organizations like "Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry"?

Kerry could not possibly have seen the things that he repeatedly said "we" had seen. Apparently, he relied on the statements of some of the supposed veterans who attended the "Winter Soldier Investigation" rally in Detroit.

But later research confirmed that in five or more cases, those testifying at the Detroit rally lied about serving in Vietnam and/or about witnessing examples of brutal war crimes.

Enough today about the largely ignored story of John Kerry's testimony to a committee of the U.S. Congress. Next Sunday: the angry reaction of other Vietnam veterans who were as well situated as Kerry, if not better, to know how American forces conducted themselves in the Vietnam War.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: couldnt; describing; effinrats; election; fonda; jane; kerry; mentioned; see; vets; vietnam; won; wrath
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To: Spiff

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81 posted on 08/22/2004 9:48:24 PM PDT by AZBear
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To: Libloather

82 posted on 08/22/2004 11:27:34 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: Chieftain; Libloather; Liz
"With a tear running down his face, my one son looked me in the eye and said, "Dad, that Kerry is a sonofabitch for doing that to his fellow comrades. Now I understand why you will fight him with all your might. I will tell ALL of my friends this story". I felt like he now really does understand his old Marine pops."

My dad was in the Navy fer 30 years that included two stints off Viet Nam. While he votes consistently fer GOPers, he's relatively apolitical...until NOW!! Kerry really gets under his skin and he's been talking via e-mail with many of his Vet friends who almost unanimously agree that Kerry is Unfit to Command!!

FReegards...MUD

83 posted on 08/23/2004 6:37:40 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
"When it was over, General Giap and the NVA viewed the Tet '68 offensive as a failure, they were on their knees and had prepared to negotiate a surrender. At that time, there were fewer than 10,000 U.S. casualties, the Vietnam War was about to end, as the NVA was prepared to accept their defeat. Then, they heard Walter Cronkite (former CBS News anchor and correspondent) on TV proclaiming the success of the Tet '68 offensive by the communist NVA. They were completely and totally amazed at hearing that the US Embassy had been overrun. In reality, The NVA had not gained access to the Embassy--there were some VC who had been killed on the grassy lawn, but they hadn't gained access. Further reports indicated the riots and protesting on the streets of America."

This is not deissimilar from the strategy the Islamo-Fascists are employing to win the War on Terrorism...the Leftist DemonRATS are doing the work of the Enemy by undermining our efforts in Iraq!!

RATS are EVIL...MUD

84 posted on 08/23/2004 6:46:27 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


85 posted on 08/23/2004 6:50:05 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
I agree completely! The demonrats are nothing short of traitors! My wish is that they'd all be tried & convicted of aiding and abetting the enemy in a time of war.
86 posted on 08/23/2004 7:45:47 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: Chieftain

Chieftan-
First let me say - God Bless you for your service.

Now, this is how we will make a huge difference in this election. Your son's friends wouldn't listen to you if you told them how JF'nK hurt you but they WILL listen to your sons - and this is how we will change the minds of the younger generation.


87 posted on 08/23/2004 7:49:19 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Thanks for your kind words, Mama. That conversation we had yesterday was one of many that we have had about Kerry, but something about it, clicked inside of them. They WILL spread the word to their co-workers and friends.

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

88 posted on 08/23/2004 8:13:23 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Darksheare

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89 posted on 08/23/2004 8:22:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Save a Democrat! Vote Republican!)
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To: upchuck
...the media will soon be forced to look at his anti-war activities.Just like they were forced to look at his commendations when the first Swifty commercial was released.

The GOP needs to strike while the iron is hot, while the liberal media is in full damage control mode for their candidate, and detail for the American people the blatant bias, and the burying of information the partisan press has engaged in. The MM is as much of an enemy as Jean Kerry is, IMHO.

90 posted on 08/23/2004 8:31:07 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Libloather
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The Myths of Camelot and Cambodia - They Were With Each Other Then and They Are With Each Other Today


91 posted on 08/23/2004 8:37:00 AM PDT by Helms ( And the Sand-Monkeys saw that the Sand had become Glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
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To: blue-duncan

Kerry's shrapnel looks questionable... he had an MRI in February, not allowed if a patient has shrapnel in his or her body.




From "Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI)" at http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article248.html

"Patients need to tell their physician if their body contains any ferromagnetic objects such as shrapnel, a pacemaker, or aneurysm clips. These patients cannot undergo MRI study. Ferromagnetic objects are attracted by the MRI's magnet."




The New York Sun March 30, 2004...

"In a conference call with reporters yesterday, Mr. Kerry's surgeon, Bertram Zarins, said the senator has a partial tear of the subscapularis tendon in his rotator cuff. Dr. Zarins said the injury stemmed from a mishap in January on the Kerry campaign bus in Iowa."

""The senator was walking down the aisle and the bus suddenly lurched. Senator Kerry grabbed a railing and wrenched his shoulder," Dr. Zarins said. Mr. Kerry later complained of shoulder pain. In February, he underwent an MRI test that revealed the tear."

"Dr. Zarins said he and Mr. Kerry initially opted for a wait-and-see approach regarding the shoulder, hoping that the pain would abate. It did not."



92 posted on 08/23/2004 5:46:11 PM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry is The Meringue Candidate.... saccharine sweet stories with no actual substance.)
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To: Tamsey
He could not get through the metal detectors at all federal offices with shrapnel in his rear. Of course that would not apply to flying since he flies tandem on Theresa's broom.
93 posted on 08/23/2004 6:21:44 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Libloather

WOW,as Kerry would say: BRING IT ON!!!


94 posted on 08/23/2004 6:35:45 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: Libloather
But later research confirmed that in five or more cases, those testifying at the Detroit rally lied about serving in Vietnam and/or about witnessing examples of brutal war crimes.

Widely reported, but unsupportable at this time, I believe.

Note the article doesn't name any of the cases supposedly debunked.

It may happen in the future, thanks to the efforts of FR's wintersoldier.com. But it remains for the future.

95 posted on 08/23/2004 7:35:39 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

bump


96 posted on 08/24/2004 5:58:56 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (When the government seeks to give the people all they want, it will soon take all they have.)
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