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1 posted on 08/22/2004 10:08:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Sadly, this goes on everywhere. We caught some guys red-handed who were double-voting for the county commissioner two years ago.

Since we a dem controlled county, nothing ever came of it.


30 posted on 08/22/2004 10:34:26 AM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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Cross linking: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196759/posts

For information reference.


31 posted on 08/22/2004 10:34:38 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Andy from Beaverton; AngieGOP; July 4th; concerned about politics; coconutt2000; ProudVet77; ...
<sarcasm>What a fine piece of journalism by Russ Buettner and the Daily News.<sarcasm>

The article states (in the 10th paragraph):

Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party.

Yet the first example they give (in the 6th paragraph) of a dual voter is a Republican:

One was Norman Siegel, 84, who is registered as a Republican in both Pinellas Park, Fla., and Briarwood, Queens. Siegel has voted twice in seven elections, including the last four presidential races, records show.

Siegel (and his Republican affiliation) is again mentioned in the middle of the article (paragraphs 32 through 39), under the bold sectional heading "Parties can count on 'em–twice":

Norman Seigel puts a new twist on the political adage "vote early, and often."

In Siegel's case, you could add "over and over again."

Siegel (no relation to the civil rights lawyer of the same name) has voted twice in seven elections since 1988, including four presidential races, ­records show.

Registered as a Republican at his home in Briarwood, Queens, and in Pinellas Park, Fla., Siegel has usually filed an absentee ballot in one or both places.

But wait, here's another Republican dual voter they can make an example of (paragraphs 44 & 45) while still not mentioning any Democrat dual voters:

Joseph Moschella, 59, a retired Transit Authority supervisor, said his dual vote in the 2000 presidential election was a mistake caused by his annual snowbird migration.

The registered Republican in Melbourne Beach, Fla., and on Staten Island said he thought his absentee ballot to Florida hit the mail too late, so he voted in New York as well.

In fact, it's not until the LAST TWO paragraphs of this story (paragraphs 47 & 48) that they specifically mention a Democrat dual voter, and even then they blame his crimes on the Republicans:

Edwin Peterson, 66, a registered Democrat in Palm Coast, Fla., and St. Albans, Queens, attributed his dual vote in the 2000 election to his distrust of the party running the Sunshine State.

"That was a situation where Florida is so messed up with the Republicans, you don't know if your vote is even going to be counted," Peterson said. "It's been like that forever."

In fact, the word "Republican" is mentioned SEVEN times in the article, while the word "Democrat" is mentioned only THREE times.

And in the few paragraphs discussing methods for combating the crime of multiple voting, the Republicans are again demonized for (allegedly) denying votes to Democrat "African-Americans."

<sarcasm>Once again, kudos to Mr. Russ Buettner, Daily News Staff Writer. I nominate him for the "Joseph Goebbels Propaganda Award."<sarcasm>

42 posted on 08/22/2004 10:57:37 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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It isn't just the NY rats who double dip as rat voters.

Boston, New Hampshire, Maryland, and Pa have tons of snowbirds who vote absentee in their home states and by ballot in Floriduh and other winter snowbird states like Arizona, S. California and Texas.

Maybe a bigger double dipper are the college students who vote twice. They reverse the process and vote by absentee ballot in their home and again at the state their college is at.

Voting twice in a federal election should be made a severe federal crime right up there with treason.


43 posted on 08/22/2004 11:00:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Dems out-doubleregister Pubs by 5:1, yet the News focuses 1/3 of the story on a Pub offender.


55 posted on 08/22/2004 11:18:49 AM PDT by Paul_B
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This story pisses me off on so many levels... because of the obvious bias, as others have noticed (Oooohhh, the stupid incompetent Republicans in Florida [which everyone knows is run by Bush's evil brother] made me have to vote in Queens too!) What a maroon...

...and if a newspaper investigation could find this stuff out, and drivers license departments have their acts together, you would THINK that in this modern computerized world, those in charge of voter registration COULD insure that voters were only registered in ONE state, if they really wanted to, that is...

Just WHO is paying off the Federal Elections Commission under the table to keep this nationwide scandal so conveniently "overlooked", I wonder?

Rant off. Sorry about that. Living in Palm Beach County and all, this sort of article tends to get my hackles up!

Re-Elect "W" in '04!

58 posted on 08/22/2004 11:23:16 AM PDT by phroebe (Why would 250 Swift Boat Vets lie and risk complete economic ruination?)
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Re the vote early and vote often. We have the Vote Early system here in Tennessee of which I always take advantage of, but I would never dream to drive to another county to vote again and would never dream to vote again on election day


60 posted on 08/22/2004 11:27:40 AM PDT by Kaslin (It took Kerry 40 minutes to react on September 11, 2001)
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Excellent example of media bias while maintaining a fig leaf of 'we criticize both sides', and a resource for the post-Nov. election fights.


61 posted on 08/22/2004 11:30:05 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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BUMP FOR THE SUPPORT OF SWIFT VETS HERE... http://www.swiftvets.com/


62 posted on 08/22/2004 11:32:31 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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Jeez, 46,000 New Yorkers got the option to vote twice, but many of our military folks never even got the opportunity to do it once.


74 posted on 08/22/2004 2:46:48 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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The News' investigation also found: Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party.

Or, "How the democrats almost stole the election"

75 posted on 08/22/2004 2:49:10 PM PDT by cinFLA
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Thanks for posting this.

I just e-mailed the original article to the Florida Department of Elections.


76 posted on 08/22/2004 3:07:10 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (swimming through the blogosphere)
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bttt


77 posted on 08/22/2004 3:08:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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Florida election officials were widely criticized after the 2000 election for instituting policies that resulted in thousands of African-Americans, who tend to vote Democratic, being turned away at the polls.

I thought that 2000 saw the largest African-American turnout in Florida history.

-PJ

78 posted on 08/22/2004 3:17:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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They will be triple votinng this fall and the dead always vote Democrat and vote often.


79 posted on 08/22/2004 3:45:30 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime membership of the "Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Should be easy for someone to get the lists from S.FL and NYC and crosscheck.

What are the penalties for voting/being registered in multiple locations?


83 posted on 08/22/2004 6:00:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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LOL! 12% are republicans and they choose to illustrate an R

"One was Norman Siegel, 84, who is registered as a Republican in both Pinellas Park, Fla., and Briarwood, Queens. Siegel has voted twice in seven elections, including the last four presidential races, records show. "

85 posted on 08/22/2004 7:02:43 PM PDT by spunkets
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So, while NYT hacks like Bob Herbert are whining about imaginary problems with voting machines (“A Chill in Florida”, August 23), some real fraud is going on. Oh, that’s right, this benefits the DNC, so don’t mention it.

Nothing to see here, people. Move along…

I especially love the quote from the democrat voter in the last two paragraphs. Basically, this drongo is saying that “Well, I just know the Republicans have rigged things, so my voting twice is OK”. Great! An electorate with no morals or ethics – just what the founding fathers feared more than anything else.

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89 posted on 08/24/2004 5:20:03 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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I knew there was no way in hades that the Dims could be getting as many votes as they tend to get. I talk to people all the time and I'm constantly amazed at how many do NOT like the left. But to see the national results almost always the race is "close". I don't live under a rock either and I talk to people all over this country on a daily basis (I'm a computer network technician these days).

Now I know why


93 posted on 08/24/2004 5:31:43 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Goodnight Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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