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A Look at MoveOn.org and Swift Boat Vets For Truth
Patriot Paradox ^ | Nick Queen

Posted on 08/21/2004 9:20:58 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000

The Kerry campaign just keeps coming with attack after attack on the Swifties. He calls them Republican activist and Bush cronies, but what about MoveOn.org? They attack Bush all the time with nary a whimper from the President. Perhaps he is thicker skinned? In any case lets look at these two 527s, info courtesy of opensecrets.org:

MoveOn.org:

OpenSecrets.org's description:

Begun in 1998 to protest the impeachment of President Clinton, the group has become a powerful political force since then. Its political action committee, the MoveOn PAC, spends millions of dollars to support the election of Democratic candidates. The MoveOn.org Voter Fund is raising soft money, which may be contributed in unlimited amounts, for TV ads in key battleground states that are critical of President Bush.

Oh, but wait. Soros also decided to donate to John Kerry! According to the OpenSecrets.org donor look-up he donated $2000 to the Kerry Campaign. Remember, however, that Soros is a Liberal and is not allowed scrutiny in his donations. Only Conservatives or people who support Bush are culpable.

Looking at the Swifties now:

OpenSecrets.org's description:

SBVT represents Vietnam Swift boat veterans who are critical of Democrat John Kerry's decision to make his military service a major part of his campaign for president. The group questions Kerry's record in Vietnam and denounces his anti-war activities following his military service. The group's donors include some major Republican contributors.

Yeah, they are the big bullies here. The issue is that Kerry can only attack the Swifties by saying they are associated with Bush, and in the end it won't work. Bush's connection to the Swift Boat Vets is the same as Kerry's to the MoveOn.org group. Kerry cannot prove a connection, and in the end it won't matter. His only defense is to attack the issues raised, and he will do no so thing.

Another thing to look at is the top 10 donors to 527 Committees. You'd expect huge rich rich rich Republicans to fill the top but you'd be wrong. Here they are:

1 Peter Lewis
Peter B Lewis/Progressive Corp
Cleveland, OH
$14,030,000

Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $7,750,000
America Coming Together $2,995,000
MoveOn.org $2,500,000
Marijuana Policy Project $485,000
Young Democrats of America $250,000
PunkVoter Inc $50,000

2. George Soros
Soros Fund Management
New York, NY
$12,600,000

America Coming Together $5,000,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $4,550,000
MoveOn.org $2,500,000
Campaign for America's Future $300,000
Democracy for America $250,000

SOROS, GEORGE
NEW YORK,NY 10106
SOROS FUNDS MANAGEMENT/INVESTOR
3/31/2003
$2,000
Kerry, John

3 Steven Bing
Shangri-La Entertainment
Los Angeles, CA
$8,086,273

Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $6,964,846
MoveOn.org $971,427
Americans for Progress & Opportunity $150,000

4 Andrew & Deborah Rappaport
August Capital
Woodside, CA
$2,910,000

Music for America $1,550,000
New Democrat Network $1,100,000
Democrats 2000 $200,000
America Votes $50,000
EMILY's List Non-Federal $10,000

5 John A & Lawrie Harris
Changing Horizons Fund
Berwyn, PA
$1,674,000

League of Conservation Voters $1,478,000
State Conservation Voters Action Fund $130,000
Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund $28,000
Sierra Club $28,000
MoveOn.org $10,000

HARRIS, LAWRIE R MS
BERWYN,PA 19312
3/31/2004
$1,000
Kerry, John

6 Lewis Cullman
Cullman Foundation/Cullman Ventures
New York, NY
$1,650,000

Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $1,000,000
America Coming Together $500,000
MoveOn.org $100,000
Americans for Jobs, Healthcare & Values $50,000

CULLMAN, LEWIS B
NEW YORK,NY 10017
CULLMAN VENTURES/PRESIDENT
2/27/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John

7 Agnes Varis
Agvar Chemicals
New York, NY
$1,500,000

Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $1,500,000

VARIS, AGNES
NEW YORK,NY 10019
AGVAR INC./DOCTOR
3/16/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John

8. Alida R Messinger
Alida Messinger Charitable Lead Trust
New York, NY
$1,158,000

America Coming Together $500,000
League of Conservation Voters $500,000
State Conservation Voters Action Fund $133,000
Democrats 2000 $25,000

MESSINGER, ALIDA R
NEW YORK,NY 10112
SELF/PHILANTHROPIST
6/11/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John

9. Fred Eychaner
Newsweb Corp
Chicago, IL
$1,150,000

America Coming Together $500,000
Media Fund $500,000
Voices For Working Families $150,000

EYCHANER, FRED
CHICAGO,IL 60614
NEWSWEB CORPORATION/PRESIDENT
4/5/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John

10. Susie Tompkins Buell
Susie Tompkins Buell Foundation
San Francisco, CA
$1,020,000

Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $1,000,000
EMILY's List Non-Federal $20,000

BUELL, SUSIE TOMPKINS
SAN FRANCISCO,CA 94111
RETIRED/RETIRED
3/12/2003
$2,000
Kerry, John

8 out of 10 also donated to Kerry, the max of $2000. The rest they are pouring into 527's, for some odd reason...

Yeah, those 527 have NOTHING to do with helping Kerry.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 527; 527s; kerry; moveon; moveonorg; webofconnections
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Patriot Paradox

1 posted on 08/21/2004 9:20:59 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: B.Bumbleberry; prarie earth; UnklGene; Cathryn Crawford; CholeraJoe; Chad Fairbanks; ...

ping


2 posted on 08/21/2004 9:21:25 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 ("If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: idkfa

Ping.


3 posted on 08/21/2004 9:24:02 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: sonsofliberty2000

So why doesn't the NY Times report on this? Oh.


4 posted on 08/21/2004 9:24:41 AM PDT by Drango (Free speech only for the veterans who agree with Kerry. All others must be silenced.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Good work. Bookmarking this one.


5 posted on 08/21/2004 9:24:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Great post. It is also worth noting that MoveOn.org is so far left it actually initiated a drive to impeach Bush, which of course failed miserably.


6 posted on 08/21/2004 9:26:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Yep, and I'm an evil big time donor of $100 and another $100 to follow today. Of course my evil is compounded as my Dad was born in Texas.


7 posted on 08/21/2004 9:26:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: Drango

Think man THINK! :-p


8 posted on 08/21/2004 9:27:38 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 ("If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Let's not forget the movement of people between Kerry's campaign and moveon.org (and probably some of the others), while they may not be on both staffs simultaneously, they certainly bring an insider's knowledge of plans and strategies.
9 posted on 08/21/2004 9:27:40 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Contribute to and support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth at http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php

Just sent them $25.


10 posted on 08/21/2004 9:27:45 AM PDT by schaketo (Notorious for skinny dipping in the same pond as snapping turtles)
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To: MizSterious; sonsofliberty2000; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; RottiBiz

Ditto! Bump


11 posted on 08/21/2004 9:28:05 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

bookmark


12 posted on 08/21/2004 9:31:16 AM PDT by federal
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Great work, Bookmarking


13 posted on 08/21/2004 9:33:28 AM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Joe Lockhart's fingerprints are all over the latest series of attacks on the Swifties.

Time to show him and his PR firm the downside of being a slimeball.


14 posted on 08/21/2004 9:33:48 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
The socialist have had the field to themselves for 30 years. When a couple of successful conservative organizations fight back, the hypocrites can't stand it.

The gloves are off.
15 posted on 08/21/2004 9:35:42 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Bump. BTTT


16 posted on 08/21/2004 9:36:28 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Outstanding post. I just saw a CNN news report that hammered the Swift Vet's biggest contributors. Why aren't they looking into MoveOn.org or the other Kerry-supporting organizations the same way? Also, you never hear of them trying to dig up the actual facts concerning Kerry's service. Even Fox is engaged in "he said, she said" reporting on this rather than investigating the actual facts (at least, that's the way it seems to me).

I have no problem with CNN or any other news agency trying to show who donates to what organization AS LONG AS they are truly fair and balanced. I only hope people realize how the alphabet networks are feeding us a liberal line of #$%@.


17 posted on 08/21/2004 9:36:38 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: Mia T; Chieftain; Cincinatus' Wife

Ping


18 posted on 08/21/2004 9:37:04 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000; Former Military Chick; Interesting Times

What is the name of the former Clinton lawyer who is an organizer of American's Coming Together? I have gone blank on his name and need it for a letter I am writing. He is the 3rd generation of a monied Democrat Family from New York. His father or grandfather was an intimate of FDR.

Thanks


19 posted on 08/21/2004 9:40:57 AM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Sean Hannity kept trying to make this comparison last night.


20 posted on 08/21/2004 9:41:47 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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