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HA! They even have graphics
12 posted on 08/21/2004 8:52:51 AM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Well, from the graphic, it's not hard to tell who bugged out, is it?


16 posted on 08/21/2004 8:58:48 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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Great catch - but Kerrys own remarks in the Congressional Record says that Rassmann fell off when he made a quick turn, and does not mention any other explosion.


17 posted on 08/21/2004 8:59:12 AM PDT by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he is not guilty)
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The graphic shows Alston as the 50 cal gunner. Has it been definitively established that he, rather than Fred Short, was the gunner on 13 March?


23 posted on 08/21/2004 9:05:29 AM PDT by financeprof
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Hey! Some guy named Rood who works for the Chicago Tribune is going to come out with his story tomorrow and he claims that he was on the third boat. Is his name anywhere in this story?


25 posted on 08/21/2004 9:06:26 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Woof if you love America!)
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This graphic also states under #3 that at 9:45am Kerry was wounded attempting to destroy rice reserve with grenade.

This wounding is what earned him his 3rd Purple Heart, this supports what the Swiftvets have said all along that Kerry's 3rd PH was awarded under false pretense. The medal commendation itself says Kerry was wounded and bleeding from schrapnel from the mine explosion. And only Kerry and his crew say there was a second mine, the other vets say there was never a second explosion.


27 posted on 08/21/2004 9:13:09 AM PDT by federal
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Kind of hard to believe that Kerry's boat was not damaged by "an unidentified explosion" that rocked the boat hard enough to dump a guy overboard.....
28 posted on 08/21/2004 9:15:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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Considering the fact that the protocol when there was a wounded vessel was to "circle the wagons" and lay down cover fire for the rescue, this graphic is VERY damaging to Kerry inasmuch as it confirms that he was the only vessel to turn tail and run from the wounded vessel. All the other vessels stayed for whatever fight might ensue.

Further it confirms that Rassman was ejected due to the negligence of Kerry rather than from the explosion. It also confirms that it was Kerry who placed him in the drink, so he certainly didn't deserve a medal for rescuing him later. If anything he should have received a rerprimand for abandoning a man-overboard.

Finally it confirms that Kerry could not possibly know if there was any enemy fire coming from the banks, as he was too busy running from the scene to witness it.

Is it any wonder after this action that his fellow commanders "suggested" that he use his third purple heart as an excuse to get out of 'Nam? They couldn't count on him.

41 posted on 08/21/2004 9:43:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To me, the photo of Kerry and others looks like a made up composite...Maybe photo experts on FR can give opinions.
47 posted on 08/21/2004 10:01:27 AM PDT by AlexW
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notice the BREAK in the graphic... it is used to denote a LARGE area missing from the graphic so it can be shown on one page, ALSO the there are NO times posted in 5 through 9 like there are in 1 through 4 posing more questions than answers!!!
53 posted on 08/21/2004 10:28:00 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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The revision is Kerry's boat getting hit by a mine. The first mine couldn't have caused the purple heart injury so a SECOND mine has been added to salvage Kerry's heroism. As shown, this happened further down the river so no one can dispute it. Very clever ... and dishonest.


64 posted on 08/21/2004 10:51:02 AM PDT by farsighted
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That is a fabulously detailed graphical depiction of Kerry's version of events. Too bad it's been discredited.


76 posted on 08/21/2004 11:22:53 AM PDT by Petronski ("Where one burns books, one eventually burns people." ---Heinrich Heine)
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They will use the 43 boat, with Droz, to assert a lot of lies to come in the near future. Droz dies in combat a few weeks after Kerry leaves, I don't know how his crew fared.

For instance, if this Kerry mined story sells they will use this incident for the "catapulted dog" story and say it was Droz's boat that the dog was catapulted into.

Droz's sister, I believe, was in the Chicago convention riots in 1968 and a likely communist. He has people named Droz campaigning for him. There will be "documentation" that comes forward to corroborate some of the Kerry lies that will be purported to be from the hand of Droz ( letters and such ).
113 posted on 08/21/2004 7:00:21 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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Ok folks, compare Rassmann's own words to that graphic and tell me what is wrong with the picture.

Eyewitness account from James Rassmann also details the fact that PCF-94 and other boats were under fire . In March of 2004, Rassmann, a registered Republican who had not seen Kerry in more than 30 years before their reunion in Iowa this year, recalled the following: “Viet Cong snipers fired at him, and Rassmann submerged over and over to avoid being hit. The bullets came from both banks, and Rassmann had nowhere to go. He began thinking his time had come, but the fifth time he came up, he saw the convoy had turned around. Kerry had ordered the boats back to pick up the man overboard. Kerry's boat, under heavy fire, sidled up to the struggling soldier. Rassmann tried to scramble up a cargo net at the bow but was too exhausted to make it all the way. He clung to the net as bullets whizzed past.” [Los Angeles Times, 3/13/04]

114 posted on 08/21/2004 7:02:29 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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#9 is mislabeled.
It should read: "Kerry continues to flee but then decides that maybe the coast is clear enough for him to return and try to find that guy who fell overboard. Anyways, the guy might live and start to talk and that would not look good for Kerry, no sir, not at all."


122 posted on 08/21/2004 7:20:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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182 posted on 08/27/2004 3:32:56 AM PDT by devolve ( -- Kerry & POW`s families - http://pro.lookingat.us/POW.html --)
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