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The Outrage in Outrage ^ | August 20, 2004 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 08/21/2004 2:31:57 AM PDT by RogerFGay

The Outrage in Outrage

August 20, 2004
by Roger F. Gay

Professor Stephen Baskerville once again provides a cutting edge analysis of the changing political landscape of marriage and family. His comments in "A Primer Against Gay Marriage," (current issue of : Social Issues In the News) on Peter Sprigg's new book on same-sex marriage, Outrage, sets an otherwise rather superficial and reactionary political debate in a deeper and more realistic context.

Peter Sprigg, as Professor Baskerville points out, is Director of the Center for Marriage and Family Studies at the Family Research Council (FRC). Socially conservative groups like FRC tend to reflect partisan positions even when it requires contradicting fact and shooting themselves in the foot. Such is the case regarding the only error Professor Baskerville detected in the book; an aside on how "deadbeat dads abandon their kids."

Professor Baskerville describes the error as "an unnecessary concession that has been roundly refuted by recent research but one that extracts the marriage controversy from its larger context: government policy weakening parent-child bonds." These are crucial points. Removing analysis of policy from its policy context and relying on false information is not the road to serious scholarship – in fact it might be described as the anti-road.

Given that the error is merely an aside in what Professor Baskerville describes as "a concise, clear, and readable book that provides an excellent introduction to where we now stand on perhaps the most emotional issue on the national agenda," this may seem a quantitatively minor problem. In fact however, this anti-father political positioning blocks the possibility of serious scholarship in the area of family policy studies; in effect, making a joke of the Family Research Council's "family research."

In promoting an anti-father view, FRC promotes the entire policy and debate context that comes with it. Anti-father propaganda is categorically anti-heterosexual family propaganda, originating in feminist-homosexual lobbying campaigns. Its eventual effect, after having been adopted as platform positions by both parties and transformed into dramatically altered family policy, was to deliver a lethal injection to marriage as we knew it, which led directly to the proclamations of legitimacy for same-sex marriage. This puts FRC in the untenable position of defending both sides of the issue simultaneously; yielding superficial and reactionary political debate rather than sustainable scholarly argument.

It was the design of anti-father policy and its acceptance by the courts that changed the legal status of marriage and family from its previously recognized status as a crucial and protected fundamental social arrangement to mere "social policy." The latter defines marriage and family as an arbitrary arrangement that derives its "legitimacy" (in every sense) solely due to its recognition by the state.

Concern that the new "right" for same-sex marriage signals the possibility of new "rights" for a much greater variety of "marriage" arrangements is well-founded. The view that legitimizing same-sex marriage is the cause of the problem rather than a convulsion brought about by the lethal injection of anti-father policy is quite wrong. Given the dramatic transformation of the legal status of marriage and family that preceded same-sex marriage, judges ruling on constitutional grounds had little choice but to act as what some describe as "activists."

The plain and simple truth is that you can't defend family while waging war against fathers. This obvious, fundamental truth is reflected in constitutional decisions. One set of rules applies if family is a self-defined critical element of social structure, in which case fathers and families are protected from arbitrary manipulation by the state. Another set of rules applies if family is an arbitrary result of social and economic policy decisions like the details of welfare entitlements and tax tables. By supporting anti-father policy, FRC supports the latter view, directly contradicting its rather superficial stance in defense of marriage (as we knew it).

Professor Baskerville points out that "some who agree with Sprigg's position oppose his proffered solution, the Federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution, which Congress recently rejected." I am already on public record, most recently in Same-Sex Marriage Positions Untenable (, July 15, 2004) as opposing the amendment. The resurrection of marriage, as we knew it, can only occur by flushing the system of the poison that is causing its death; that is, by reversing anti-father policy and restoring the legal status of marriage and family.

The price FRC must pay for a tenable pro-marriage position, is the abandonment of anti-father propaganda and support of anti-father policy. In the short term, this means choosing between partisan support for the Republican administration's anti-father policy positions and entering the deeper policy debate honestly. (Serious research does in fact refute the anti-father political position.) It's a difficult choice, but I do not see how FRC can maintain a credible image as a pro-marriage research organization while holding superficial, reactionary, and self-contradictory positions on the status and definition of marriage and family.

Roger F. Gay

Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst, international correspondent and regular contributor to, as well as a contributing editor for Fathering Magazine.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bookreview; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage; stephenbaskerville

1 posted on 08/21/2004 2:31:57 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: nmh

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2 posted on 08/21/2004 2:32:50 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
"The view that legitimizing same-sex marriage is the cause of the problem rather than a convulsion brought about by the lethal injection of anti-father policy is quite wrong."

So many 'learned folk' always get it wrong! The problem is one of 'secular humanism', which is a religion according to Thomas Mann, John Dewey and Noah Webster.

What is the answer? Jesus Christ!

Or if you reject Him... and wish to remain a 'secular humanist' at least try to be honest... there is no such thing as 'same sex marriage'. Animals of the same sex do not mate nor do humans. There are men and women who get married and then there are men and women whos desire for worldly flesh make them 'sexual deviates' ...what they really are - an abomination.

3 posted on 08/21/2004 5:04:40 AM PDT by Luke (u)
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Baskerville is right. Take a good look into the sewer of antidad court rulings on a case by case basis, if you have the stomach for it.

Conservatives have bought heavily into this BS also. Henry Hyde has introduced more severe legislation limiting fathers' rights than has Hillary Clinton. That goes for the Elianistas too!

4 posted on 08/21/2004 6:31:36 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: RogerFGay
"Dead-beat Dad" appelation is a misnomer.

The real issue is that society nowdays has extended rights to illegitimate children that are the same as children born within marriage.

My guess is that a very large percentage of those in the "dead-beat Dad" category are those unwed fathers.

It was the undermining of the value of marriage in the eyes of women that has lead to the "dead-beat Dad".

The best prescription for this is to return to the days of shaming unwed mothers for bringing children into the world without benefit of marriage.

5 posted on 08/21/2004 8:52:26 AM PDT by happygrl
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I'm not saying Baskerville is not sincere in what he believes. His premise is wrong. Court rulings, like feminism, do not create deviate sex. It is deviate sex that has led to 'same-sex rulings'. Sin is the causative factor for humans of the same sex wanting to mate. Secular humanist look to place blame. Someone must be responsible! Right? No! Black-hearted sin is responsible. Baskerville's approach is from the secular humanist side. He refuses to see the big picture.

It is secular humanist belief that we as a society must be tolerant of others sexual desires that has led to the phrase 'same-sex marriage'. In fact there is no such thing same-sex marriage. The mind of the secular humanist denies God. Therefore humans are permitted to mate with anyone they wish.

There are no Christian courts..., no Christian judges..., no Christian politicians... only secular humanist. Just by going to work, going to school, going to the post office, going to the grocery store... even a Christian is required to live in a world of secular humanism. Study the works of Thomas Mann, John Dewey and Noah Webster to find out how and why our educators, high and low, have become secular humanist. A good starting point might be David Limbaugh's book "Persecution".

6 posted on 08/22/2004 5:59:08 AM PDT by Luke (u)
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7 posted on 08/24/2004 5:29:16 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: happygrl

You're right. They should have aborted them.

8 posted on 08/24/2004 11:30:57 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
They should have aborted them.


But they shouldn't be made heroines just because they don''t.

9 posted on 08/24/2004 12:02:51 PM PDT by happygrl
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