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Kerry Camp Will Ask Feds to Pull Swift Boat Ads!
CNN Crossfire ^ | 8/20/04 | Tucker Carlson

Posted on 08/20/2004 1:58:37 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: NavySEAL F-16

I called McCain from Alabama and asked them to not say anything about the new ad.


521 posted on 08/20/2004 3:01:10 PM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: vollmond

I do so whenever I can . . . ridicule is nothing to be scared of.


522 posted on 08/20/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I'm the dandy highwayman that you're too scared to mention . . .)
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To: votelife

MCPAIN IS A MORON TOO


523 posted on 08/20/2004 3:01:40 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: KQQL
Kerry is a moron, he has made Swifty's famous........

Ha, I knew he couldn't keep it together the arrogant @$$.

524 posted on 08/20/2004 3:01:42 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Hey, can you post (again) that cover from the book so I can print & enlarge it for my car? Thanks.


525 posted on 08/20/2004 3:01:57 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: faithincowboys
"Kerry is gonna realize that Treason isn't Free."

Magnificent line!!! Love it....

You're right...the bastard has to pay the piper now......

I just wish there was some way we could convey the fact that the criminal slander heaped on them is being cleansed - to our brothers whose names are on the Wall on the Mall.

I would love to hear, that one of our Washington, D.C. brothers had gone to the Wall to give our brothers a "status report"..

Semper Fi

526 posted on 08/20/2004 3:01:59 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: rintense
John Kerry is now trying to silence vets after he spent years protesting the war and using the first amendment to his advantage. Now he's trying to kill the same right that he used against his country

He's not trying to just silence vets

HE IS TRYING TO SILENCE THE POW'S IN THAT AD!!

Big Mistake .. HUGE Mistake!!!

527 posted on 08/20/2004 3:02:32 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: gopwinsin04

This is continuing to be a PR disaster for Kerry.

PR rule #17: Never make a one day bad story into a two day bad story. Never make a two day bad story into a three day bad story, etc.

The dolts in the Kerry campaign are giving this story fresh fuel every day. This won't go away for months.

"I love the smell of Kerry tinkling in his pants.... it smells like..... Victory!"


528 posted on 08/20/2004 3:03:12 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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To: kabar

Recall Nino's dissent in the recent McCain-Feingold decision - to paraphrase, "They got around these laws in the past and they'll get around this one." What's galling is, as with most "law" the Dems are only for enforcement when it suits their ends - just like ole Lenin himself.


529 posted on 08/20/2004 3:03:32 PM PDT by Tamaqua ("How about we win and they lose" RR 1981)
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To: x1stcav

Now we have to say inside the OODA loop.
What we need now is an effort from another direction,
give them two things to HAVE to think about.

Political Vertical Envelopment.

I just wonder how he got those campaign stars on his
Vietnam Campaign ribbon, I didn't think even his total
of both tours could align with the time period requirements.


530 posted on 08/20/2004 3:04:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mo1

You hearing this about Kerry supporters Americans Overseas for Kerry, in Hanoi coming out today in support for Kerry and bashing Bush's service? On Brits show.


531 posted on 08/20/2004 3:04:19 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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KERRY PLAN FOR WAR ON TERROR WILL BE TO SUE THE TERRORIST @ UN or WORLD COURT.


532 posted on 08/20/2004 3:04:28 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I think ad number three should show Kerry's picture in the Communist museum, along with quotes from a VC general saying Kerry helped them win the war!


533 posted on 08/20/2004 3:04:33 PM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: All

This is getting ugly folks - I still have concern over how this will play out. This has become the chief battleground of the election. All the other issues, flip-flops etc. of Kerry are unimportant now - if he wins this debate with the media help and saves his war-hero image, we are toast. We're putting all our eggs into this one basket when there are so many other winnable ways to beat Kerry soundly. Unwise I still say...


534 posted on 08/20/2004 3:04:54 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: prairiebreeze

There are Americans in Hanoi?


535 posted on 08/20/2004 3:05:14 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: Wait4Truth; PISANO; Beelzebubba; All
I'm donating too. If we really want to react to this, lets do it with a positive reaction of helping out the Swift Vets:
Swift Vets Donation Link
536 posted on 08/20/2004 3:05:26 PM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: OKSooner
Your wish is my command:

You can cut and paste into a Word Doc, then expand it so it can be seen from a distance, then print out on good paper, and then put it on your car for the evening drive time home tonight in traffic, all before the sun sets. All in a days work.

537 posted on 08/20/2004 3:05:27 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Hitlery Recently Seen Throwing Banana Peels in Front of Kerry and Edwards' Residences)
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To: prairiebreeze

Yep .. it will back fire on Kerry


538 posted on 08/20/2004 3:06:07 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Mo1

ABC News just reported it is unlikely that ads on either side will be pulled, and that 62 million has been spent by lefty 527s on ads


539 posted on 08/20/2004 3:06:34 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I remember a Senate obstruction over the nomination of Weintraub. McCain wanted her. She was the Democrat's choice, led by Daschle. McCain joined the dems in demanding her confirmation.

So far the FEC has refused to do anything about the 527's. So far the only 527's to do any major advertising are ones tied to the dems.

It'll be interesting to see if they hold to their "standards" now that the dems have complained...

By my count there are four Democrats, one question mark and one Republican.

This could go badly.

FEC:

Chairman Bradley A. Smith
Bradley A. Smith was nominated to the Federal Election Commission by President William Clinton on February 9, 2000, and confirmed by the U.S. Senate on May 24, 2000.

Vice Chair Ellen L. Weintraub
Ellen Weintraub received a recess appointment to the Federal Election Commission on December 6, 2002, and took office on December 9, 2002. She was renominated by President George W. Bush on January 9, 2003, and confirmed by unanimous consent of the United States Senate on March 18, 2003.

Commissioner David M. Mason
David M. Mason was nominated to the Federal Election Commission by President William Clinton on March 4, 1998 and confirmed by the U.S. Senate on July 30, 1998. He currently is a member of the Commission’s Litigation Committee.

Commissioner Danny Lee McDonald
Commissioner McDonald, a Democrat, originally was nominated to the Federal Election Commission by President Ronald Reagan in December 1981, and confirmed by the U.S. Senate in July 1982. He served as FEC Chairman in 1983, 1989, 1995, and 2001, and previously has served as Vice Chairman in 1982, 1988, 1994, and 2000.

Commissioner Scott E. Thomas
Commissioner Thomas began his service at the FEC as a legal intern during the summer of 1975. The Commission had just opened its doors in the wake of the Watergate scandal and related congressional hearings. Upon graduating from law school in 1977, Mr. Thomas worked on the FEC’s legal staff, eventually serving as an Assistant General Counsel in the Enforcement Division. In 1983, he became Executive Assistant to then Commissioner Tom Harris, a Democrat and one of the original FEC commissioners.
In 1986, with Commissioner Harris retiring, President Reagan appointed Mr. Thomas to the remainder a six-year term. He was reappointed in 1991 by President Bush, and reappointed again by President Clinton in 1997.

Michael E. Toner Commissioner
Michael E. Toner was nominated to the Federal Election Commission by President George W. Bush on March 4, 2002 and appointed on March 29, 2002. Mr. Toner was confirmed by the United States Senate on March 18, 2003.

http://www.fec.gov/members.htm

MCCAIN: FEC MUST DO ITS JOB ON 527S TOMORROW
For Immediate Release
Wednesday, Aug 18, 2004

U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) released the following statement again calling for the Federal Election Commission to end the illegal use of soft money in federal elections by 527 groups:

“The Federal Election Commission has one last chance on Thursday to act responsibly and adopt regulations to prevent 527 groups from illegally spending soft money to influence federal elections.

“To date, a majority of FEC Commissioners, led by Chairman Brad Smith and Vice Chair Ellen Weintraub, have turned their back on the problems with 527 groups, ignored the nation's campaign finance laws and undermined the interests and rights of the American people.

“This kind of irresponsible conduct is contrary to law and cannot be allowed to continue. Commissioners Michael Toner and Scott Thomas put forward a bipartisan proposal to address the problems with 527 groups last May and have done so again. I continue to support their efforts to address this critical issue.

“Some Commissioners claimed earlier this year that they did not want to ‘change the rules’ in the middle of an election. While I think that argument is wrong-headed and legally unsupportable, the FEC General Counsel's current proposals before the Commission would not take effect until after the 2004 election. Accordingly, that excuse for FECdelay is no longer available.

“There is no conceivable justification for the FEC to fail to act on Thursday to make clear that 527 groups who are out to influence federal elections must comply with federal campaign finance rules.
“The proposal put forward by three obstructionist Commissioners yesterday, Commissioners Smith, Weintraub and David Mason, is a travesty. They would have the FEC continue to ignore the central legal question before the FEC--what groups qualify under existing law as federal political committees, and must therefore register and use hard money for their political activities.

“The FEC has had this question before it for over three years, and it is at the heart of the 527 issue. The law and binding Supreme Court precedent are indisputable--groups whose ‘major purpose’ is to influence federal elections must register as federal political committees and comply with federal campaign finance laws, including the restrictions on the contributions they can receive.

“For these three Commissioners to refuse yet again to define when a group has to register as a federal political committee is an abdication of their sworn responsibilities, and makes a mockery of the campaign finance laws. I hope they will come to their senses and do their jobs, out of embarrassment at their failure to be responsible public officials so far, if for no other reason.”

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http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=NewsCenter.ViewPressRelease&Content_id=1306

This on Weintraub. This was Daschle and the Dems choice and McCain joined them in holding up Bush appointments until they confirmed Weintraub.

Now, the Majority Leader has an ally in stopping Bush nominations: Republican Sen. John McCain. Late Monday, the Arizona senator and former presidential candidate sent a letter to Daschle and Minority Leader Trent Lott demanding a hold on all nominations until the appointment of a woman named Ellen Weintraub, who is the Democratic choice for a spot on the Federal Election Commission. McCain has been angered by FEC actions which he believes will dilute some of the provisions of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance-reform bill. While several Republicans, including Sen. Mitch McConnell, oppose Weintraub, Democrats, along with McCain, believe that Weintraub, who is married to a key aide to campaign-finance cosponsor Sen. Russell Feingold, will support stricter enforcement of the new law.

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york062502.asp


540 posted on 08/20/2004 3:07:34 PM PDT by terilyn
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