I read this yesterday and today read FReeper Bahbah's comment on another thread about how sick he was of hearing about the "holy city of Najaf.".
I like the title. Give me a break!
1 posted on
08/20/2004 6:06:55 AM PDT by
Rebelbase
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To: Bahbah
2 posted on
08/20/2004 6:07:20 AM PDT by
Rebelbase
(Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
To: Rebelbase
BTTT!! I am sick of it too, hence my tagline. :)
3 posted on
08/20/2004 6:07:53 AM PDT by
Constitution Day
(...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
To: Rebelbase
Najaf IS holy, to Siite Muslims. It is Al-Sadr, NOT us, who is desecrating the Mosque.
4 posted on
08/20/2004 6:10:36 AM PDT by
conserv13
To: Rebelbase
Right, Holiness and Hatred. What a wholesome combination and so worthy of the respect of other cultures. NOT!
5 posted on
08/20/2004 6:11:03 AM PDT by
SMARTY
('Stay together, pay the soldiers, forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus, to his sons)
To: Rebelbase; newgeezer
If you don't destroy people's "Holy" cities, how are they ever going to realize they are not really holy.
7 posted on
08/20/2004 6:11:34 AM PDT by
biblewonk
(neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
To: Rebelbase
When was the last time that you heard of the Vatican or Bethlehem referred to as "holy cities"? Yet we constantly hear of "holy" Mohammedan cities.
When was the last time you heard of a "holy church"? Yet we constantly hear of "holy mosques."
It's an obnoxious double standard. Besides, in reality, these Christian sites truly are holy, whereas the Mohammedan "holy" sites aren't truly holy. They're only regarded by Mohammedans as holy.
8 posted on
08/20/2004 6:12:20 AM PDT by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Rebelbase
We should take a page out of the previous administration's playbook. Dial 1-800-WACO. Can you hear me now?
9 posted on
08/20/2004 6:14:11 AM PDT by
PGalt
To: Rebelbase
So what makes Iraqs Najaf a holy city other than the fact that there is a big mosque there? What, for that matter, makes every grain of sand in Saudi Arabia sacred?
Why the bass-ackward Religion of Peace!
11 posted on
08/20/2004 6:14:29 AM PDT by
Rummyfan
To: Rebelbase
Over at Belmont Club, Wretchard has
posted a partial list of actual "Holy Cities":
Buddhism
Bodh Gaya Sarnath Kushinagar Lumbini
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Christianity
Bethlehem Jerusalem Nazareth Antioch
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Eastern Orthodox
Constantinople (Istanbul)
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Russian Orthodox
Moscow
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Latter-day Saints
Independence Nauvoo Salt Lake City
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Islam
Mecca Medina Jerusalem
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Hinduism
Benares Mathura
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Shi'a Islam
Karbala Najaf Qom
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Judaism
Jerusalem
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Shintoism
Kyoto
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Unitarianism
Boston
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Roman Catholicism
Rome Santiago de Compostela Lourdes Fatima
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Mahayana Buddhism
Lhasa
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To: Rebelbase
And right now, the Saudis have launched a public relations campaign to tell us what good friends of ours they are. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
I find those radio ads for the Saudi government - played during Hannity's show for example - disgusting. Wish the stattions would decline the business.
17 posted on
08/20/2004 6:19:54 AM PDT by
Rummyfan
To: Rebelbase
But Najaf IS a holey city, but just not quite holey enough.
It needs just one more hole, a really big one right in the middle of where that mosque used to be. THEN perhaps it will truely be holey.
18 posted on
08/20/2004 6:22:12 AM PDT by
Manic_Episode
(Getting off on looking good.)
To: Rebelbase
Great post. We are living in times not too different from the Renaissance and the late Middle Ages where the geographic area from the Levant and further East was a 'no-go' zone. Only when the Islama-whackos are soundly defeated will we have any semblance of peace.
19 posted on
08/20/2004 6:22:49 AM PDT by
Rummyfan
To: Rebelbase
Love it. Dead-on.
Every time I see the video from that s**thole and see these vermin dancing around and thumping their little Arab chests, I just think "Don't you DARE talk to me about 'holiness' as you wave that damned gun and booby trap your own "holy" shrines, you miserable piece of walking excrement!"
To: Rebelbase
I think we need the Holy MOAB of Najaf to make a few holy relics of Mookie.
To: Rebelbase
..."...Islam so suffuses the lives of Muslims throughout the Middle East and elsewhere, they are utterly blind and indifferent to the fact that it has consigned them to backwardness, poverty, and the mercy of whoever is in charge."...
That is why it is so revealing that Muslims sit silently by while strongmen like Sadr and Zarqawi bring back dictatorial rule. I would expect a country sick of a tyrant like Saddam would recognize a "New Tyrant" IMMEDIATELY and do something to prevent another Saddam.
Instead, many Iraqis have chosen to sit back and watch the fight, as if they had no stake in the outcome and were watching a soccer match.
Their future is at stake, and they treat the entire scenario as "Inshallah" (It is god's will).
For expressing the above, I have been banned from posting to some Iraq blogs.
29 posted on
08/20/2004 6:46:25 AM PDT by
jolie560
(hE)
To: Rebelbase
I never really noticed it ... but ...why are Muslim cities important from a religious point of view called "holy." While cities important to other religions are not. This is especially true of Christian cities.
I agree media hype and political correctness is behind this.
But, there's another reason. Christian holy cities -- like Jerusalem, Rome, Salt Lake City and Moscow -- have a lot more going for them than merely being religious centers. Thus you can't call Rome "holy" because many parts of it are not.
Muslim holy cities are basically a mosque and a place of pilgrimage. Nothing else.
34 posted on
08/20/2004 7:04:30 AM PDT by
ARCADIA
(Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
To: Rebelbase
Well I live in the Holy City of Cumming. I'm just going to shrine it off right now. And I am the Cleric. Stay out, infidels!
35 posted on
08/20/2004 7:04:36 AM PDT by
Sender
(I didn't leave cookays. I left him cheeese.)
To: Rebelbase
Only Muslims should be addressing the city as "holy". The media continually calling it that are recognizing the holiness of the city when most of them believe themselves as a god.
I will recognize that city as holy only when Christ Himself walks its streets blessing it. Until then, its a rathole crawling with terrorists.
36 posted on
08/20/2004 7:04:52 AM PDT by
smith288
(Verry Leftwards '04)
To: Rebelbase
I haven't heard from Janet Reno lately. Do you think she would like a go at these religious extremists?
To: Rebelbase
Other than pure arrogance, what gives Islam the right to claim Jerusalem as an Islamic holy city when Muhammad never physically stepped foot there, nor anywhere else outside of Arabia?
Good point!
41 posted on
08/20/2004 8:02:09 AM PDT by
Cronos
(W2K4)
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