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Holy City? Give Me A Break!
Opinionet.com ^ | August 18, 2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 08/20/2004 6:06:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase

What if I were to invite you to visit the “holy city” of San Diego, named after a saint? So was St. Augustine, Florida. Providence, Rhode Island references God’s grace. There is hardly a major city where one cannot find an impressive cathedral or other religious structure. From one end of America to another, you can find “holy cities”, but while they honor religious figures or ideals, they do not claim to be “sacred” ground.

So what makes Iraq’s Najaf a “holy city” other than the fact that there is a big mosque there? What, for that matter, makes every grain of sand in Saudi Arabia “sacred”? Or makes Mecca and Medina more sacred than cities that preceded both by well over two thousand years, Jerusalem and Vatican City in the midst of Rome? Other than pure arrogance, what gives Islam the right to claim Jerusalem as an Islamic holy city when Muhammad never physically stepped foot there, nor anywhere else outside of Arabia?

Returning to Najaf, the home base of Muqtada al-Sadr, the renegade Shi’ite mullah, just how holy is a mosque when it serves as a place to store weapons and plan military operations against an interim government? So I suggest that the time to give him five minutes to get out of town or watch his mosque turned into a parking lot has arrived.

This is likely to make a lot of Arabs angry at the Big Bad United States of America, but frankly these people don’t need any excuse to dislike us. I get a lot of email from people in the Middle East who don’t like what I have to say about Islam. One universal theme runs through virtually all these communications and it is that the United States and Israel are responsible for the “oppression” in their nations, not the monarchs and despots that run those nations.

It is the U.S., they contend, that supports these dictators and, therefore, is to be blamed for their actions. As for Israel, it is responsible for everything that is wrong with their lives. By contrast, militant and even peaceful Muslims are never to blame for anything.

In the past, I have tried to reply reasonably that the United States has not only suffered attacks on its homeland, but also a long succession of attacks going back to the seizing of its diplomats in Iran in 1979, the bombing of Marines in Lebanon, the attack of the USS Cole, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. All by Muslims. It was Muslims who blew up trains in Spain, a nightclub in Bali, synagogues in Turkey and Argentina, foreign compounds in Riyadh, and let’s not forget those US embassies in two African nations.

For good measure, I tried to point out that our military has gone in harm’s way to defend and protect Muslims in Kuwait, in Somalia, in Bosnia, and against the Taliban in Afghanistan. Now it is engaged in the liberation of 25 million Muslims in Iraq, setting them on the path of democracy and freedom.

None of this, I assure you, has the least affect on the thinking of my correspondents, nor, I suspect, on any of the other millions of totally ungrateful slaves of the despotic governments of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Algeria, Libya, the Sudan, and other nations where Islam plays a significant role in governance or whose militants are engaged in insurrections to become the government. In Islam, there is no separation of church and state.

Islam so suffuses the lives of Muslims throughout the Middle East and elsewhere, they are utterly blind and indifferent to the fact that it has consigned them to backwardness, poverty, and the mercy of whoever is in charge. There is little hope for the individual Middle Eastern Muslim, even if he is an educated member of the middle class. That is why most of the 9-11 hijackers came from this segment of Saudi Arabian society. That is why Osama bin Laden, who came from a Saudi family of great wealth, uses Islam to advance his self-glorification and evil agenda. And right now, the Saudis have launched a public relations campaign to tell us what good friends of ours they are. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

So here come the Americans with our military power and these morons sit in front of their television sets listening to and watching al Jezeera tell them over and over again that their sacred lands or holy cities are being destroyed by us simply because we want their oil. Yes, we want their oil. We are paying $44 a barrel for it right now! Has the money gained from its purchase in the past done anything to benefit the individual Muslim? Has it built a decent infrastructure or educational system in any of these places?

I suggest we Americans get over the notion that we are “creating” Islamic enemies. Just as the nation of Israel was born surrounded with Islamic enemies and has battled them for over a half century, the only thing the United States can do is kill our enemies and liberate the rest who must be dragged into the 21st century and connected to the rest of the world before they destroy us in the name of Allah


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KEYWORDS: iraq; najaf; sadr
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I read this yesterday and today read FReeper Bahbah's comment on another thread about how sick he was of hearing about the "holy city of Najaf.".

I like the title. Give me a break!

1 posted on 08/20/2004 6:06:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Bahbah

Ping


2 posted on 08/20/2004 6:07:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: Rebelbase

BTTT!! I am sick of it too, hence my tagline. :)


3 posted on 08/20/2004 6:07:53 AM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: Rebelbase

Najaf IS holy, to Siite Muslims. It is Al-Sadr, NOT us, who is desecrating the Mosque.


4 posted on 08/20/2004 6:10:36 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: Rebelbase
Right, Holiness and Hatred. What a wholesome combination and so worthy of the respect of other cultures. NOT!
5 posted on 08/20/2004 6:11:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ('Stay together, pay the soldiers, forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus, to his sons)
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To: Constitution Day

>>(...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...) <<

I love it!!!!


6 posted on 08/20/2004 6:11:34 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("I don't have time in my life to read potato chips" - Netmilsdad)
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To: Rebelbase; newgeezer

If you don't destroy people's "Holy" cities, how are they ever going to realize they are not really holy.


7 posted on 08/20/2004 6:11:34 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: Rebelbase
When was the last time that you heard of the Vatican or Bethlehem referred to as "holy cities"? Yet we constantly hear of "holy" Mohammedan cities.

When was the last time you heard of a "holy church"? Yet we constantly hear of "holy mosques."

It's an obnoxious double standard. Besides, in reality, these Christian sites truly are holy, whereas the Mohammedan "holy" sites aren't truly holy. They're only regarded by Mohammedans as holy.

8 posted on 08/20/2004 6:12:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Rebelbase

We should take a page out of the previous administration's playbook. Dial 1-800-WACO. Can you hear me now?


9 posted on 08/20/2004 6:14:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Constitution Day

Check your yahoo.


10 posted on 08/20/2004 6:14:16 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: Rebelbase
So what makes Iraq’s Najaf a “holy city” other than the fact that there is a big mosque there? What, for that matter, makes every grain of sand in Saudi Arabia “sacred”?

Why the bass-ackward Religion of Peace!
11 posted on 08/20/2004 6:14:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Constitution Day

"Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...) "

Ha! I might get a chance to eat at Kings in Kinston on Saturday.


12 posted on 08/20/2004 6:15:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: Constitution Day
BEGONE HERITIC!!!! Everyone knows that the Sacred City of Barbecue is Kansas City. And if you don't think that we wouldn't hunker down in Arthur Bryant's or Jack's Stack to do battle with the infidels then you are sadly mistaken.
13 posted on 08/20/2004 6:16:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: netmilsmom
Parker's BBQ | Wilson, NC
14 posted on 08/20/2004 6:17:39 AM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: Rebelbase

Thanks for the article, RebelBase. Words have effects and consequences. The "holy city" thing is pure PR, and it is a mistake, IMHO, to keep repeating this nonsense.


15 posted on 08/20/2004 6:18:28 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Rebelbase
Over at Belmont Club, Wretchard has posted a partial list of actual "Holy Cities":

Buddhism

Bodh Gaya
Sarnath
Kushinagar
Lumbini

Christianity

Bethlehem
Jerusalem
Nazareth
Antioch

Eastern Orthodox

Constantinople (Istanbul)

Russian Orthodox

Moscow

Latter-day Saints

Independence
Nauvoo
Salt Lake City

Islam

Mecca
Medina
Jerusalem

Hinduism

Benares
Mathura

Shi'a Islam

Karbala
Najaf
Qom

Judaism

Jerusalem

Shintoism

Kyoto

Unitarianism

Boston

Roman Catholicism

Rome
Santiago de Compostela
Lourdes
Fatima

Mahayana Buddhism

Lhasa


16 posted on 08/20/2004 6:18:35 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Rebelbase
And right now, the Saudis have launched a public relations campaign to tell us what good friends of ours they are. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

I find those radio ads for the Saudi government - played during Hannity's show for example - disgusting. Wish the stattions would decline the business.
17 posted on 08/20/2004 6:19:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rebelbase

But Najaf IS a holey city, but just not quite holey enough.
It needs just one more hole, a really big one right in the middle of where that mosque used to be. THEN perhaps it will truely be holey.


18 posted on 08/20/2004 6:22:12 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Getting off on looking good.)
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To: Rebelbase

Great post. We are living in times not too different from the Renaissance and the late Middle Ages where the geographic area from the Levant and further East was a 'no-go' zone. Only when the Islama-whackos are soundly defeated will we have any semblance of peace.


19 posted on 08/20/2004 6:22:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Constitution Day
I am very impressed with the miracle of Tubular Hush Puppies. I think I'm ready for a pilgrimage.
20 posted on 08/20/2004 6:26:38 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("I don't have time in my life to read potato chips" - Netmilsdad)
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