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Taking Lead from Kerry Campaign, Morning Shows Begin to Cover Swiftees' Charges
The Today Show; The Early Show; Good Morning America

Posted on 08/20/2004 4:39:35 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Edited on 08/20/2004 4:45:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

O'Neill is VERY sober and believable. As long as he is given air time, he will acquit himself well.

I'm concerned that this focus on Kerry's service is actually playing into his hands. As long as the truth is somewhat murky (and truth always is when revisited 30 years later), Kerry might at least play this to a draw.

In the meantime, the focus remains on Kerry's service, not on his anti-Vietnam, anti-patriotic actions after the war (although a bit of this is coming into play) and his ultra liberal senate record.

The upside is watching liberals and the MSM squawk about the 527 groups and see them tied in knots condemning the Swiftees, yet giving moveon.org and Soros a pass. It's a great thing to such hypocrisy on display.


41 posted on 08/20/2004 5:56:54 AM PDT by randita
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Exactly. Funny, but I haven't heard the morning shows breathlessly report that Move.on's ads are funded by Democrats.

Or more to the point, they suggest there is more to be suspected by a GOP Texan(Perry) funding a 507 group than is to be feared from a Socialist Greek(Soros) funding one. Oh, and btw there is no mention, ever, of the millions given to Kerry 507's vs the 200 thousand given by that mean-spirited Texas Republican.
Pathetic

42 posted on 08/20/2004 5:58:23 AM PDT by mc5cents ("We will have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Are you telling me that the mainstreamers don't preface every news story about moveon.org by ranting and raving about it being funded by millions and millions of dollars from Sorry Soros? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell ya'.

One would think they have an agenda, huh?

On the same line of reasoning, I noticed on a Washington comPost story yesterday where some jackass by the name of Dobbs was trying to trash the Swift Boaters by showing the documents that one of their medals also said there was "hostile" fire when Lurch plucked the guy from the river . . . that he managed to write in three "digs" like "funded by a large Republican booster" and other such nonsense.

The mainstreamers are blind as hell . . . the citizenry are starting to see through their BS. A devout Democrat lives next door to me. DEVOUT! One of those whose family has ALWAYS VOTED DEMOCRAT and ALWAYS WILL VOTE DEMOCRAT. I was helping him set up a computer he bought for his granddaughter when a news story came on the tube about the Swifties. I was pounding on his keyboard working out the installation crapola but I noticed him out of the corner of my eye watching and listening to the TV. It sounded like Dan Blather but it might not have been. Anyway, I saw him reach up and slap the OFF button. I asked him what the problem was. I'm not making this up . . . his quote was . . . "Ain't no way 250 veterans would lie. G*ddammit! They gave their names, ranks, every-damn-thing else so the vultures could check them out. They've opened all their records. Kerry won't do that. Ain't no way that many veterans would step forward and lie!"

Believe me . . . that's pretty harsh stuff for this guy. We made a pact a few months ago when our political discussions started getting a mite heated. We don't talk politics. But I couldn't help it. I asked him . . . "Does that mean you're not voting for Lurch?"

His reply? "Nope. But I ain't voting for a lying sumbitch either."

He served eight years in the Navy. From 1943 to 1951.

Lurch is going down.

43 posted on 08/20/2004 6:00:03 AM PDT by geedee (The thing that impresses me the most about America is the way parents obey their children.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I thin it was O' Neill on chrissy's soft ball show last night, we had a live thread on it. It was totally disgusting, Chrissy went nuts and tried to bring GW into the picture it was the worst t.v. show I have ever seen.
44 posted on 08/20/2004 6:12:33 AM PDT by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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To: The G Man

LOL. I noticed that glaringly obvious point also. Like, moveon.org is supported by (gasp!) democrats!

This tact of "yeah but, look who's behind it" is ineffective with real people when they don't refute the actual charges.


45 posted on 08/20/2004 6:14:29 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: The G Man
Hey Kerry, don't look now but, there, out over the ocean what is that I hear?
46 posted on 08/20/2004 6:18:29 AM PDT by mc5cents ("We will have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

O'Neill was on FOX and Friends. Not exactly "mainstream" media, just media that is driving "mainstream" media mad.


47 posted on 08/20/2004 6:19:00 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: MNnice

O'Neill said on Fox and Friends, when asked if there was republican money backing, that the Swiftvets would take money from George Soros if he offered it.


48 posted on 08/20/2004 6:21:01 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
So for all the liberal media bias, every minute of coverage they devote to the issue is one minute not spent glorifying some new Kerry spending proposal, bashing W over the 'jobless' recovery, condemning the troop redeployment as 'pure politics,' etc.

It is more than that. The American people don't want or need this controversy over a 30 year old war when we have immediate lives at stake. The best case scenario for Kerry in this is that the American people throw their collective arms up and say "Who cares about Vietnam". When that happens, Kerry's reason for being is destroyed.

49 posted on 08/20/2004 6:35:19 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They're in full-time Kerry Ass Cover Mode. KACM. It fits.


50 posted on 08/20/2004 6:38:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I watched each of the stories this morning on CBS, ABC, and NBC. The very worst was ABC - Stepanopolous, who claimed taht the Kerry people are continued to be happy that the Senator's war record is contrasted with the President's.

Nice try, Georgie, won't wash.

The biggest lie peddled on each of the networks is that the commercial is "funded by a Republican group."

I was relieved that the NYT piece overnite had no bombshells.


51 posted on 08/20/2004 6:44:15 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: The G Man

Ooooh. Good one.


52 posted on 08/20/2004 6:55:14 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I've heard a couple of times on Hannity's radio show. Hannity, to his credit, was pushing him to expose any weakness and O'Neill was totally amazing. In control of his emotions and in control of the facts and he didn't back down on anything. I would love to see him on Meet the Press and just take it to Russert.


53 posted on 08/20/2004 6:59:21 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: iceskater

Make that "I've heard him...."

My brain is going faster than my fingers can type.


54 posted on 08/20/2004 7:01:12 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
One of the shows began its coverage by describing the SBVT TV commercials as "Republican-funded." Another breathlessly reported that John O'Neill, in forming his organization, had sought legal advice from a lawyer with Republican connections.

CBS is definitely on the bandwagon. The news on the local CBS radio affiliate here used those exact words. It was so blatant, it just took my breath away.

55 posted on 08/20/2004 7:02:34 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: mwl1
are continued to be happy that the Senator's war record is contrasted with the President's.

But that isn't what is happening. Kerry's record is being contrasted with the other vets.

56 posted on 08/20/2004 7:04:10 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: mwl1

Stephanopolis was not there; O'Neil and the others WERE there.


57 posted on 08/20/2004 7:20:26 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: uncbob
Wasn't it the VVAW who pioneered and championed the prototype of "I've Been There And Fought For Our Rights And Therefore My Rights (And Opinions) Are More Important Than Yours"?
58 posted on 08/20/2004 7:47:17 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Don't you love the smell of Dem panic in the morning?"

It smells like victory! LOL!


59 posted on 08/20/2004 8:12:12 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I wonder how the Today Show will like the next ad?

http://a1281.v125028.c12502.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1281/12502/v0001/eaglepub.download.akamai.com/12502/sellout.wmv

This could be fun.


60 posted on 08/20/2004 8:14:25 AM PDT by snooker
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