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MATTHEWS TRANSCRIPT / * NEW * KERRY SPIN TAG LINE "Kerry didn't shoot himself!"
Hardball ^ | 8/19/04 | Chris Matthews

Posted on 08/19/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by Steven W.

CLELAND: ...I‘ll get shot three times, and I‘m going to bring that shrapnel home so I can be a war hero.

BROWN: He literally got shot. There‘s no question about any of those things. So what else is there to discuss? How much he got shot, how deep, how much shrapnel?

MALKIN: ... Why don‘t people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg. They are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound.

MATTHEWS: What do you mean by self-inflicted? Are you saying he shot himself on purpose? Is that what you‘re saying?

MALKIN: Did you read the book...

MATTHEWS: I‘m asking a simple question. Are you saying that he shot himself on purpose.

MALKIN: I‘m saying some of these soldiers...

MATTHEWS: And I‘m asking question.

MALKIN: And I‘m answering it.

MATTHEWS: Did he shoot himself on purpose.

MALKIN: Some of the soldiers have made allegations that these were self-inflicted wounds.

MATTHEWS: No one has ever accused him of shooting himself on purpose.

MALKIN: That these were self-inflicted wounds.

MATTHEWS: Your saying there are—he shot himself on purpose, that‘s a criminal act?

MALKIN: I‘m saying that I‘ve read the book and some of the...

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: I want an answer yes or no, Michelle.

MALKIN: Some of the veterans say...

MATTHEWS: No. No one has every accused him of shooting himself on purpose.

MALKIN: Yes. Some of them say that.

MATTHEWS: Tell me where that...

MALKIN: Self-inflicted wounds—in February, 1969.

MATTHEWS: This is not a show for this kind of talk. Are you accusing him of shooting himself on purpose to avoid combat or to get credit?

...

MATTHEWS: I have never heard anyone say he shot himself on purpose.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; malkin; thurlow
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To: iopscusa

Isn't what Mr. Matthews doing a textbook example of a "straw man" type argument?


61 posted on 08/20/2004 10:09:49 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen
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To: Steven W.
Thought you might find what Mickey Kaus is saying today to be of interest:

Excerpt

"...P.S.: The idea that Kerry was actually in Cambodia over Christmas when he said he was has apparently long been abandoned by the Kerry campaign. ...

P.P.S.: Like many of my friends, I wasn't paying much attention to the Swifties until Kerry went postal on them. (Hmm. Was that a smart move? What happened to the rope-a-dope strategy?) I don't know which side is right. I don't know that I'd even hold it against Kerry if he did exaggerate a bit to get the three Purple Hearts that let him leave Vietnam. I do know that if freedom of speech means anything it means that a group of citizens can get together to bring up this sort of charge against a presidential candidate, subject to the laws of libel. But read this New York Times editorial and see if you can avoid concluding that the Times doesn't think the Swift Boat Veterans Ad should be stopped because it might be financed with corporate or union money in violation of the spirit of McCain-Feingold. The Times doesn't even really think it should be stopped because it was financed by a rich individual Republican (something that's clearly perfectly legal under McCain-Feingold as long as the group running the ads is not incorporated).

The Times thinks the ad should be stopped because you just shouldn't be able to make such "outlandish" independent charges in a campaign. They're against the speech, not the financing. Like Kerry, they're trying to come up with a "process" reason that avoids the inconveniently messy issue of truth. But their process reason--an attack on "independent" criticism per se--seems particularly dangerous.

P.P.P.S.: Respectable big-time journalist friends who met with the anti-Kerry vets recently found them a lot more credible than expected. Sorry, Note!

62 posted on 08/20/2004 10:10:12 AM PDT by LincolnLover (Nader/Camejo 2004: Yeah, Libs, That's The Ticket!)
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To: Steven W.

Another Kerry email from a former member of the USMC...

>>>>LOSER KERRY JOKE ALERT>>>>

One sunny day in 2005, an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he'd been sitting on a park bench.


He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, "I would
like to go in and meet with President Kerry.

" The Marine replied, "Sir, Mr. Kerry is not President and doesn't reside here.

" The old man said, "Okay," and walked away.



The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet with President Kerry".



The Marine again told the man, "Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Kerry is not President and doesn't reside here."



The man thanked him and again walked away..



The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet with President Kerry."



The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said,

"Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Kerry. I've told you already that Mr. Kerry is not the President and doesn't reside here. Don't you understand?"



The old man answered, "Oh, I understand.





I just love hearing it."



The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said,




"See you tomorrow Sir".

>>>LOL<<<

God bless America, our troops and George W. Bush...


63 posted on 08/20/2004 3:08:49 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Steven W.

Chris behaved like a jackass.


64 posted on 08/20/2004 8:27:19 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Sgt. Pile E-6

>>>I cant wait for Michelle to kick his ass in an article! :)

Just in case you hadn't seen it:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000418.htm

And your characterization is spot-on.


65 posted on 08/21/2004 4:49:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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