Posted on 08/19/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by Steven W.
CLELAND: ...Ill get shot three times, and Im going to bring that shrapnel home so I can be a war hero.
BROWN: He literally got shot. Theres no question about any of those things. So what else is there to discuss? How much he got shot, how deep, how much shrapnel?
MALKIN: ... Why dont people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg. They are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound.
MATTHEWS: What do you mean by self-inflicted? Are you saying he shot himself on purpose? Is that what youre saying?
MALKIN: Did you read the book...
MATTHEWS: Im asking a simple question. Are you saying that he shot himself on purpose.
MALKIN: Im saying some of these soldiers...
MATTHEWS: And Im asking question.
MALKIN: And Im answering it.
MATTHEWS: Did he shoot himself on purpose.
MALKIN: Some of the soldiers have made allegations that these were self-inflicted wounds.
MATTHEWS: No one has ever accused him of shooting himself on purpose.
MALKIN: That these were self-inflicted wounds.
MATTHEWS: Your saying there arehe shot himself on purpose, thats a criminal act?
MALKIN: Im saying that Ive read the book and some of the...
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: I want an answer yes or no, Michelle.
MALKIN: Some of the veterans say...
MATTHEWS: No. No one has every accused him of shooting himself on purpose.
MALKIN: Yes. Some of them say that.
MATTHEWS: Tell me where that...
MALKIN: Self-inflicted woundsin February, 1969.
MATTHEWS: This is not a show for this kind of talk. Are you accusing him of shooting himself on purpose to avoid combat or to get credit?
...
MATTHEWS: I have never heard anyone say he shot himself on purpose.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
Isn't what Mr. Matthews doing a textbook example of a "straw man" type argument?
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"...P.S.: The idea that Kerry was actually in Cambodia over Christmas when he said he was has apparently long been abandoned by the Kerry campaign. ...
P.P.S.: Like many of my friends, I wasn't paying much attention to the Swifties until Kerry went postal on them. (Hmm. Was that a smart move? What happened to the rope-a-dope strategy?) I don't know which side is right. I don't know that I'd even hold it against Kerry if he did exaggerate a bit to get the three Purple Hearts that let him leave Vietnam. I do know that if freedom of speech means anything it means that a group of citizens can get together to bring up this sort of charge against a presidential candidate, subject to the laws of libel. But read this New York Times editorial and see if you can avoid concluding that the Times doesn't think the Swift Boat Veterans Ad should be stopped because it might be financed with corporate or union money in violation of the spirit of McCain-Feingold. The Times doesn't even really think it should be stopped because it was financed by a rich individual Republican (something that's clearly perfectly legal under McCain-Feingold as long as the group running the ads is not incorporated).
The Times thinks the ad should be stopped because you just shouldn't be able to make such "outlandish" independent charges in a campaign. They're against the speech, not the financing. Like Kerry, they're trying to come up with a "process" reason that avoids the inconveniently messy issue of truth. But their process reason--an attack on "independent" criticism per se--seems particularly dangerous.
P.P.P.S.: Respectable big-time journalist friends who met with the anti-Kerry vets recently found them a lot more credible than expected. Sorry, Note!
Another Kerry email from a former member of the USMC...
>>>>LOSER KERRY JOKE ALERT>>>>
One sunny day in 2005, an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he'd been sitting on a park bench.
He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, "I would
like to go in and meet with President Kerry.
" The Marine replied, "Sir, Mr. Kerry is not President and doesn't reside here.
" The old man said, "Okay," and walked away.
The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet with President Kerry".
The Marine again told the man, "Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Kerry is not President and doesn't reside here."
The man thanked him and again walked away..
The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet with President Kerry."
The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said,
"Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Kerry. I've told you already that Mr. Kerry is not the President and doesn't reside here. Don't you understand?"
The old man answered, "Oh, I understand.
I just love hearing it."
The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said,
"See you tomorrow Sir".
>>>LOL<<<
God bless America, our troops and George W. Bush...
Chris behaved like a jackass.
>>>I cant wait for Michelle to kick his ass in an article! :)
Just in case you hadn't seen it:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000418.htm
And your characterization is spot-on.
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