Posted on 08/19/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by Steven W.
CLELAND: ...I‘ll get shot three times, and I‘m going to bring that shrapnel home so I can be a war hero.
BROWN: He literally got shot. There‘s no question about any of those things. So what else is there to discuss? How much he got shot, how deep, how much shrapnel?
MALKIN: ... Why don‘t people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg. They are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound.
MATTHEWS: What do you mean by self-inflicted? Are you saying he shot himself on purpose? Is that what you‘re saying?
MALKIN: Did you read the book...
MATTHEWS: I‘m asking a simple question. Are you saying that he shot himself on purpose.
MALKIN: I‘m saying some of these soldiers...
MATTHEWS: And I‘m asking question.
MALKIN: And I‘m answering it.
MATTHEWS: Did he shoot himself on purpose.
MALKIN: Some of the soldiers have made allegations that these were self-inflicted wounds.
MATTHEWS: No one has ever accused him of shooting himself on purpose.
MALKIN: That these were self-inflicted wounds.
MATTHEWS: Your saying there are—he shot himself on purpose, that‘s a criminal act?
MALKIN: I‘m saying that I‘ve read the book and some of the...
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: I want an answer yes or no, Michelle.
MALKIN: Some of the veterans say...
MATTHEWS: No. No one has every accused him of shooting himself on purpose.
MALKIN: Yes. Some of them say that.
MATTHEWS: Tell me where that...
MALKIN: Self-inflicted wounds—in February, 1969.
MATTHEWS: This is not a show for this kind of talk. Are you accusing him of shooting himself on purpose to avoid combat or to get credit?
...
MATTHEWS: I have never heard anyone say he shot himself on purpose.
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...We are going to keep things clean on this show. No irresponsible comments are going to be made on the show.
He opened the next segment with:
Dana, what did you make of that exchange we just had with Michelle Malkin there saying that there are rumors out, there are certain people out there that say that John Kerry shot himself on purpose to get a Purple Heart. This is how bad it‘s gotten, I think
Like the "they - errh except one - didn't serve on his boat!" line which preceeded it, this is a classic straw-man argument by the libs and orchestrated by Matthews tonight & then picked up elsewhere in the liberal realm like clockwork. Kerry was never shot. I don't think he's claimed to have (literally) been shot (like with a bullet, from a gun). He's never filed medical records for being shot unless there's more mystery late night travels, woundings & healings Brinkley has yet to hear about.
IMO the shift in tactics accompanies this coordinated campaign, eminating from the Kerry campaign and carried out, in large part, by their friendly comrades in the media & spinmeisters extroadinaire, even if it's Willie Brown. Add Max Cleland for sympathy factor ... except there's no recognition anywhere the central part of Kerry's legacy, the Christmas in Cambodia, has already being debunked with Kerry's campaign forced into the position of being a LIAR (and a delusional one at that).
Seems to me that in any typical court in this land the burden of proof would have shifted to Kerry to answer and, if unable, considered to have LIED in every other instance. For Matthews and his ilk, albeit the Post or NYT, it is journalistic fraud of the highest order to ignore such factual realities and construct straw men in their places, placing demands on men of at least equal honor which they would never seek to ask, beg or even request of their hero, Hanoi John French Kerry.
The problem with this tact is that Kerry was never shot.
These guys lost their marbles.
I cant wait for Michelle to kick his ass in an article! :)
pretty easy for them to debunk that one, huh! boy, they really think they're smart ;)
I'm sure little Chrissy thought he done good, but now his attempt to create talking points for Kerry is going to be all over talk radio tomorrow.
"No irresponsible comments are going to be made on the show."
I am assuming, therefore, that Chris is going to henceforth remain silent.
Chris Matthews will never admit he's clueless.
Yep, I heard Colmes and Matthews both say it tonight.
Chrissy is just like James Carvile: ask a question and then blather non-stop while the guest tries to answer. When the guest cannot talk over Chrissy or James, the guest is accused of not answering the question.
Matthews really made an ass out of himself.
However, who's watching?
he's not clueless. He is a hardened DemoncRAT politico with Boston ties & roots. He knows exactly what he's doing.
If we could just get a copy of the DNC's talking points on this...
All of the DemoncRAT minions out there who DIDN'T get today's memo from the Kerry campaign outlining this cycle's talking points.
Way to go, Michele!
Getting the word out there.
Sounds like Chrissy was speechless.
ROFLMAO !!! the pain, the pain!
Chris Matthews is literally losing his marbles, spewing and spitting out invective against any possible opponent to Sir Kerry Heinz.
TOUGH TOENAILS, CHRIS! BRING ON THE *TRUTH* AND QUIT BLAMING BUSH FOR THE VETS' CHARGES. YOU WANT TO MAKE NEWS, RUN FOR OFFICE. IF YOU WANT TO REPORT NEWS, BEHAVE YOURSELF AND QUIT SPITTING ALL OVER YOUR MIC AND INSULTING GUESTS. YOU'RE GOING RABID.
He did, unwittingly, by not being familiar with the events as related in the book and not knowing the nature of Kerry's "wounds".
Matthews, if you ever show up here...Kerry was injured by a grenade he fired into a pile of rice...and apparently got rice stuck in his backside as well. Guess Kerrybo didn't know he had to be a distance away from explosives he's employing to blow up some very tough rice.
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