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To: Wombat101; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Johnny Gage; Valin; Darksheare; PhilDragoo; Cannoneer No. 4; ..


Upgraded Israeli Merkava's in above Photo's.

An intersting thread on the M1A1..alot of good comments.

The other day on the T.V ..watched 2 M1A1's moving up the street in Najaf.....*Back to back.
At first..I thought the one tank was towing the other,
Then realized they were using this as a tactic to negate M1A1'a vulnerable spot..ie..The back turret deck and rear engine.

M1A1 was designed to be a fast mover and a schock,breakthru weapon.
This tank is zenith on the battlefield in this regard...and fullfills its purpose handsomely.

Its not a Ronson like the older tanks U.S. forces shoved at the enemy in numeric...even today..in worst situation..the Crew gets out..and thats what counts.

Israels Merkava above is a good ref for what a tank *can be,,as time evolution goes.
Combat lesson's learned applied type thing.
Merkava is more of a *Fight make stand tank....designed with the terrian in the region it will operate.
IDF reconfigured Merkava's turret with add on armor modules.
There is also a 360 field digital camera sytem....the TC commander can stay inside and be fully aware.

Shift;

What makes a tank especially valuable is its flexability in changing terrain and combat environment.
M1A1 can take just about anything fired at it so far.
I have looked for info..and at the time of this article am not really aware of situations where it faced *Top attack ATGM's...
IDF modded their turret design with this reality in mind.
Looking at the M1A1....it is entirley possible to mod this unit with additional armor modules to negate top attack.
I imagine they can design a armor package for the tanks rear aswell.
On a side note...I'm kinda in agreement with some of the posters on this thread who comment that the U.S. has everything it needs...the problem is the P.C. thingy..the resolve to use firepower application to shatter the enemy in situ.
a debate for another thread....ie..if we are going to Monday Quarterback Iraq,
my first comment is..*Why isn't airpower being used more?>

Looking at the destruction of Najaf's environs...it probably would have been best to let Helo's and A-10'S play,swepp the place until white surrender flags appear : )
Airpower unerves Hamdi bigtime...he flee's or dies....and thats what is needed.

If your enemy can get at you 360..your in trouble.
I guess this is the lesson being learned in Iraq.

As it stands...M1A1 is good for..another 15-20yrs?.
In that time..the U.S. will be into other Kinnetic energy gun systems..a new tank will emerge..and it will be an ass kicker like the M1A1 is.

So ya....U.S. has lost/write off...maybe 10-15 M1A1's so far in the Iraq war..with maybe 100+ offline for a time.

Far cry from the days of hundreds of gutted Shermans....tank gone.....crew gone.

M1A1 is still dominant in Iraq,
about the only thing that can stop it there.......is a bridge : )

106 posted on 08/20/2004 8:29:55 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed

BTTT!!!!!!!


107 posted on 08/20/2004 8:33:17 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Light Speed

Bump for later.


108 posted on 08/20/2004 8:51:21 AM PDT by Valin (Mind like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Light Speed; SJackson; yonif; Lazamataz

The Merkava is a great system. Unlike the old M1's that we have mothballed here in the States, it doesn't really need any upgrades at this point in time.

It would still benefit from having 4 half-tracks instead of just 2 giant full-sized treads (who wants to be immobilized if you lose 1 track, after all?!), but Israel has to be more careful with its tiny military budget than does the U.S., so that upgrade might not be worth the cost to them.

But you'll also notice that Israel isn't really using A-10's or AC-130 Spectre's in combat. Israel's approach to urban combat is entirely different than ours.

Military doctrines that use A-10's and AC-130's in combat would benefit from an M1A10 four-half-tracked, GAU-8 equipped upgrade of old, mothballed M1's.

Whether Israel's military would benefit from such a beast is another thing altogether.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

112 posted on 08/20/2004 10:44:02 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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