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A Conservative Slave Reparations Plan? (Keyes)
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 8/19/04

Posted on 08/19/2004 12:56:29 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Non-Sequitur
The other senator is a Democrat. Most congressmen are Democrats. The governor is a Democrat. Both houses of the state legislature are controlled by Democrats. It's gone Democrat the last three elections and it will go Democrat in November. It is a reliably Democratic state.

Y'all were doing such a grand job, weren't you...

Give Keyes a chance.

41 posted on 08/19/2004 7:59:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

The WBTS was not about slavery. It was about states' riights. While many people didn't own slaves, the social thought of the time allowed it to go on wholly support by the US government. I don't support reparations, but those are the facts.


42 posted on 08/19/2004 8:02:17 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: EternalVigilance
Give Keyes a chance.

Looks like he's blowing his chance. Candidate for a little over a week and he already has a bullet hole in one foot. What will next week bring?

43 posted on 08/19/2004 8:04:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, unless Keyes was asking the City Club of Chicago to write papers or otherwise debate this issue, it's an integral part of his campaign. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1194545/posts


44 posted on 08/19/2004 8:04:38 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: kattracks
Keyes said Monday that he would support exempting blacks from all taxation

What is the percentage of blacks who pay income tax?

45 posted on 08/19/2004 8:24:07 AM PDT by RJL
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To: RJL

Since most blacks are in the middle class, a majority pay at least some income tax.


46 posted on 08/19/2004 8:29:27 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: kattracks
and which 300,000 free state Americans gave their lives to end.

Technically, those "free state Americans gave their lives" to prevent other states who freely joined the union from peacefully seceding.

47 posted on 08/19/2004 10:58:14 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
Technically, those "free state Americans gave their lives" to prevent other states who freely joined the union from peacefully seceding.

Then YOU pay them reparations. Y'all wanted slavery bad enough to rebel, now pay the piper.

48 posted on 08/19/2004 11:02:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Aquinasfan
The immoral practice was upheld by law, just as the immoral practice of abortion is upheld by law today.

On a positive note...

We will never have to pay reparations to the descendants of aborted babies.

49 posted on 08/19/2004 11:10:26 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Robert_Paulson2

It's legal, but usually frowned upon and not many do it. One good reason for this is that almost everyone who runs for high office either already holds an office (Like Kerry, Obama, and Bush) or are independently wealthy (like Jack Ryan or John Corzine).

In fact, part of the rational behind it being legal - and behind Keyes doing it - is that few "ordinary people" could afford to be away from their prime source of income for the time necessary to be elected.

Personally, I understand the negative political ramifications, but I see nothing wrong with it so long as the salary was not excessive. I suppose one could argue that $96,000 a year is excessive (depending on what your obligations were) but the fact of having a "salary" itself doesn't bother me at all.

God knows If I ever ran for anything I'D need one.


50 posted on 08/19/2004 12:12:07 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Actually, Keyes intent is to repair economic hardship - not to compensate directly for being slaves. The economic hardship didn't end in 1865.
It might still be a bad idea, but the rational is based in economics, not the morality of slavery.


51 posted on 08/19/2004 12:14:40 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: Watery Tart

No. The proposal is directly targeted to those who could PROVE slave ancestory.


52 posted on 08/19/2004 12:15:25 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: sinkspur

Welll, I don't think you can go that far.

Thomas Sowell likes the Keyes candidacy, Horowitz does not.

Opinions vary.


53 posted on 08/19/2004 12:16:52 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: Non-Sequitur

Never can tell. In a nation where Jessie Ventura can be elected govorner....You can always say "stranger things have happened"

:D


54 posted on 08/19/2004 12:21:16 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: Onelifetogive
On a positive note...

We will never have to pay reparations to the descendants of aborted babies.

I knew there was a silver lining here somewhere...

55 posted on 08/19/2004 12:36:45 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: WillRain
No. The proposal is directly targeted to those who could PROVE slave ancestory.

Such an effort would be an impossible task filled with fraud.

56 posted on 08/19/2004 12:39:26 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Kenny Bunk

The details of the reparations plan are moot. The truth is that no handout will be enough, and will merely encourage additional efforts to loot taxpayers.


57 posted on 08/19/2004 12:41:42 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: kattracks

Keyes should have offered 40 acres of Southern Illinois land and 1 mule instead of the tax-exemption. That would grab the attention of the Illinois voters.


58 posted on 08/19/2004 1:00:25 PM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Keyes paid himself $100,000 out of his campaign funds when he ran for Paul Sarbanes’ U.S. Senate seat in 1992

Once again Front Page Magazine shows its shotty research. Keyes was running against Mikulski in 1992. As for Horowitz and Front Page Magazine, this isn't the first time, he's showed up bashing Keyes. THis goes back about 4 years when he invited the good Doctor to leave the party. He and I got in a major duel of words over his inaccurate assertions. I've not had any use for him since.

59 posted on 08/19/2004 1:25:47 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Values in Idaho: http://adamsweb/us/IdahoConservative)
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To: WillRain
Personally, I understand the negative political ramifications, but I see nothing wrong with it so long as the salary was not excessive. I suppose one could argue that $96,000 a year is excessive (depending on what your obligations were) but the fact of having a "salary" itself doesn't bother me at all. Keyes in the year before he ran for the Senate earned $300,000 a year, so he was taking a 2/3 pay cut to run for the Senate in Maryland in '92.
60 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:30 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Values in Idaho: http://adamsweb/us/IdahoConservative)
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