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Kerry Speaks At VFW Convention In Cincinnati
WCPO.com ^ | August.17,2004 | Lisa Foreman

Posted on 08/18/2004 9:35:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry on Wednesday criticized President Bush's proposal to recall up to 70,000 foreign troops as a hastily announced plan that raises more doubts about U.S. intentions and commitments than it answers.

"Nobody wants to bring troops home more than those of us who have fought in foreign wars," Kerry said in speech prepared for delivery to the Veterans of Foreign War. "But it needs to be done at the right time and in a sensible way. This is not that time or that way,"

Bush announced his plan to bring home troops from Cold War-era bases in Europe and Asia on Monday before an earlier session of the same gathering of 15,000 members of the VFW.

Kerry argued that Bush's policy would dangerously reduce forces at a time when the nation is fighting the al-Qaida terrorist network in 60 countries across the globe.

Kerry said the redeployment would undermine relations with U.S. allies needed to help fight in Iraq and in the war on terror. It also would endanger national security as the United States is working to deter North Korea's nuclear program, he said.

"Why are we unilaterally withdrawing 12,000 troops from the Korean Peninsula at the very time we are negotiating with North Korea -- a country that really has nuclear weapons?" he said.

Kerry also said the redeployment does nothing to relieve the problem of an overextended military in Iraq.

Kerry's campaign cited a three-month-old Congressional Budget Office report that said pulling back troops from overseas would produce at best only small improvements in the United States' ability to respond to far-flung conflicts. The report also said a large reduction of the U.S. military presence overseas could cost $7 billion up front, although annual savings could be more than $1 billion.

Pentagon officials who spoke on condition of anonymity this week said the CBO study used different assumptions than the president's redeployment plan. They said the amount of savings for the Bush plan could not be calculated until officials determine precisely which units will return to the United States, what domestic bases they will use and what overseas installations will be closed.

Pentagon officials also say plans to trim about 12,000 of the 37,000 U.S. troops in South Korea would not give North Korea an advantage. Military officials have said that advances in U.S. military firepower and a stronger South Korean military mean there can be more military power in the south with fewer soldiers.

In response to Kerry's criticism, the Bush campaign released a list of statements from Republican senators and others praising the president's proposal as essential to fighting a new kind of war.

"The Kerry campaign's attacks on realignment demonstrate a pre-9/11 world view that doesn't address the threats facing our country today," said former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn.

The Bush campaign also pointed out that Kerry appeared receptive to the idea of troop redeployment just two weeks ago.

"If the diplomacy that I believe can be put in place can work, I think we can significantly change the deployment of troops, not just there but elsewhere in the world -- in the Korean peninsula perhaps, in Europe perhaps," Kerry said on the Aug. 1 broadcast of ABC's "This Week."

With voters focused on the war on terror, the VFW convention was the perfect backdrop for both candidates to tout their war plans. The convention was set in Ohio, a top battleground state, with a live audience targeted by both campaigns.

Besides describing his redeployment plan, Bush used his appearance before the veterans to criticize Kerry for saying he plans to reduce the number of U.S. troops in Iraq during his first six months in office.

Although veterans lean Republican, Kerry also is seeking their support in this election. Kerry touts his own service in the Vietnam War as a mutual connection and is even bucking the tradition of suspending campaigning during the opposing party's national convention to speak to the American Legion.

Kerry plans to speak to the group at their convention in Nashville on Sept. 1, in the middle of the Republican National Convention. Kerry spokeswoman Allison Dobson said it's the only event he has scheduled during the GOP gathering in New York City.

Kerry's criticism of Bush comes as the Democratic challenger tries to cut the president's advantage on terrorism and national security. Bush is often seen as the stronger leader on those issues in public opinion polls, but Kerry's aides say the president is vulnerable, especially as voters learn more about Kerry's record of service.

The Vietnam-era military records of both candidates remain an issue in the race, with former sailors accusing Kerry of exaggerating his war record and Democrats questioning whether Bush showed up for duty in the Texas Air National Guard.

Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, a decorated Vietnam veteran who campaigns with Bush but has worked closely with Kerry in the Senate, has called for a cease fire.

"I wish we would stop opening wounds from a war of more than 30 years ago and talk about the war we're fighting now," McCain told The Associated Press on Tuesday. "I believe they both served honorably."


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1 posted on 08/18/2004 9:36:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

Kerry wants to bring home troops from Iraq needed to fight the war on terror---but leave the troops in Germany to fight a Cold War that ended 13 years ago. What a guy.


2 posted on 08/18/2004 9:39:12 AM PDT by John Thornton
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a country that really has nuclear weapons?" he said.

Oh yeah?? Says who, Mr. Kerry? The intelligence community? So its assessments are okay when they fit your agenda?

3 posted on 08/18/2004 9:39:41 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Reagan Man
He also endorsed the Bush policy of preemption in his speech. Amazing! He endorsed Bush's War on Iraq.
4 posted on 08/18/2004 9:42:27 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: John Thornton

Kerry's speech was very clever, but it just reinforced the idea that he's a total phony. It was filled with more of the standard Kerry distortions, fabrications and outright lies. If people look at Kerry's Senate voting record, they will see someone who can't be trusted. How dangerous Kerry would be as POTUS, is anyones guess.


5 posted on 08/18/2004 9:45:40 AM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man
those of us who have fought in foreign wars

He never misses an opportunity, does he? Heheheh.

6 posted on 08/18/2004 9:46:48 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........."Yo" is "Oy" spelled backwards.........)
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To: Reagan Man
And who let NK get those nuclear weaopons? Who reached a phony agreement with North Korea that allowed him to look like the successful diplomat, while the real result was to permit NK to develop nuclear weaopons?

Bill Clinton, with the help of Jimmah.

7 posted on 08/18/2004 9:49:13 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: Coop

"a country that really has nuclear weapons?" he said. "

Well maybe, Ketchup Boy, we don't want to lose 12,000 troops in one fell swoop.


8 posted on 08/18/2004 9:50:31 AM PDT by DaiHuy (MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
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To: Reagan Man

"How dangerous Kerry would be as POTUS, is anyones guess."


As long as he has his "magic hat", don't you think we'd be O.K.?



9 posted on 08/18/2004 9:51:04 AM PDT by Maria S ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Reagan Man

General Schwarzkopf was on Hardball last night and he came out against this plan. I hope he isn't turning Rat. Wouldn't say he was voting for Bush for pres. Said he hadn't made up his mind yet.


10 posted on 08/18/2004 9:51:08 AM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: Reagan Man
I had to turn off the television. John Kerry makes me physically ill-especially after having read Unfit for Command.
11 posted on 08/18/2004 9:51:11 AM PDT by sockmonkey (prayers for the repose of the soul of my Dad)
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To: Reagan Man
"Nobody wants to bring troops home more than those of us who have fought in foreign wars," Kerry said in speech prepared for delivery to the Veterans of Foreign War. "But it needs to be done at the right time and in a sensible way. This is not that time or that way."

And therein lies the seed of a later flip flop, for it gives him the opportunity to say he is for bringing those troops home, but he would have done it better or smarter. This "I would have done it smarter" theme is the same as his Iraq position.

12 posted on 08/18/2004 9:51:27 AM PDT by Freemyland
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To: Reagan Man
"Nobody wants to bring troops home more than those of us who have fought in foreign wars,"

To paraphrase Richard Pryor: Negro, please. You can't even get your duffle bag unpacked in 4 months.

13 posted on 08/18/2004 9:52:35 AM PDT by Feckless
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To: Coop
Psst..He might have gotten some additional inside information from the folks who helped put those nuclear weapons there - the last two Dem presidents.
14 posted on 08/18/2004 9:52:41 AM PDT by hotshu
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To: John Thornton

Well, to be fair, at least he is finally getting around to wanting to fight the Cold War.


15 posted on 08/18/2004 9:53:33 AM PDT by Freemyland
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To: Reagan Man

16 posted on 08/18/2004 9:54:54 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Did I mention I'm peddling a book?)
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To: Reagan Man
"Nobody wants to bring troops home more than those of us who have fought in foreign wars,"

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

If this blow hard ever made it to the Whitehouse he would be assigned a desk in the basement by his own party.

No one could last the Chinese water torture coming from this moron.

I would also suggest a military strike on the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, the apparent originating port of this kind mental malady.



Mad Hatter to Delta Bravo Sierra ... Mad Hatter to Delta Bravo Sierra ... Commence missle launch on target GPS Position: 42:21N 71:4W ... Bean Town ... I repeat ... Bean Town.

17 posted on 08/18/2004 9:55:38 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Reagan Man

How was this blather received by the VFW audience? Anyone know?


18 posted on 08/18/2004 9:57:30 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: John Thornton

Excellent point. Keep troops for the defunct Cold War and bring them home from an active war. Kerry is on the wrong side of every issue.


19 posted on 08/18/2004 10:00:31 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: Reagan Man
The problem with Kerry is that he is ANTI anything and everyone republican and especially Bush. Regardless of what is proposed if a republican is the proposer it is bad. He fought RR's winning strategy for the cold war, he didn't vote for the Gulf war and he only voted for the Iraq war because if he had not, he wouldn't be the nominee today.

The man is a schlep of the worst kind.

20 posted on 08/18/2004 10:00:32 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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