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There you have it.
1 posted on 08/17/2004 2:38:57 PM PDT by unspun
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To: JustPiper
ping away

SIGN & FORWARD PETITION to GOP Leaders: Fund & Support Alan Keyes Senate Campaign!
Get up to date with Alan Keyes, his schedule and campaign.


Be an Obama fan! 8-o   Encourage our Socialist Rock Star Barack! Don't back down! Do those 6 Lincoln/Douglas style debates with that 'right-winger'Alan Keyes!: info@obamaforillinois.com

2 posted on 08/17/2004 2:40:22 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: unspun
More flip-flops.

Can't he find some grown-ups to work on his campaign?

3 posted on 08/17/2004 2:40:37 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: unspun

There seems to be an effort to take Keyes comments out of context and report the heck out of them. This is the second time it has happened in two days.


4 posted on 08/17/2004 2:42:34 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: unspun
There you have it.

There we have what? Just because he provided more details doesn't make it any less reparations, any less pandering, or any less insane.

5 posted on 08/17/2004 2:42:35 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: cyborg

Ping!


8 posted on 08/17/2004 2:43:44 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun

9 posted on 08/17/2004 2:43:48 PM PDT by johnfrink
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I have also made it clear that while I believe that the descendants of slaves would be helped by this period of tax relief, my firm goal and ultimate objective is to replace the income tax, and thereby free all Americans from this insidious form of tax slavery. It is well known that this is one of the key priorities of the Keyes campaign.

Ta da.

11 posted on 08/17/2004 2:46:09 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun

"There you have it."

Yes, there you have it. Keyes is a "nuanced" flip-flopper, just like Kerry.

There you have it, indeed.


14 posted on 08/17/2004 2:51:36 PM PDT by NCPAC ((Live without Fear: Don't worry about what may happen. Concentrate on what must be done.))
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Alan Keyes is one of the worst politicians in the entire world.

I have no problem with brainstorming and kicking around ideas which one has no intention of actually proposing, but a candidate mustn't do it in public.


15 posted on 08/17/2004 2:52:00 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: unspun

Uh huh. This sounds like he's backpedaling.


19 posted on 08/17/2004 2:55:37 PM PDT by Catspaw
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Hope you don't mind the ping, since it seemed to be in line with your other post.

Go, Keyes, go!!

20 posted on 08/17/2004 2:56:28 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: unspun

Now I'm beginning to realize why's he renting his Illinois apartment on a month-by-month basis.


21 posted on 08/17/2004 2:57:32 PM PDT by johnfrink
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To: unspun

contextualizing = backpeddaling = spinning = getting foot out of mouth


24 posted on 08/17/2004 2:59:31 PM PDT by harrycarey
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To: unspun
Didn't make it better. The man tries to have it both ways. Show me how blacks in this country are worse off than blacks in Africa. That is the ONLY legitimate way to determine if slavery "did real damage to black Americans, left real and persistent material wounds in need of healing."

Until he repudiates this stance, this Alan Keyes has nothing more to say that interests me. I hope Obama wins. The GOP tent ain't big enough for reparations bigots.

Pity. I VOTED for Alan Keyes over GW Bush in the 2000 primary and worked for the campaign.
28 posted on 08/17/2004 3:04:38 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: unspun

Hm, it appears (so far) that none of the anti-Keyes folks even read this statement let alone bothered to understand it.

Ah well. Lead a horse to water, but...


32 posted on 08/17/2004 3:08:27 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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"Keyes is a man of ideas, and I expect he gets into discussions like this that are proper in their proper place, but that he would never vote for reparations. The problem with American politics is that people don't get into deep discussions."
34 posted on 08/17/2004 3:10:46 PM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: unspun

Actually this is not backpedaling at all, this is brilliant, because it diffuses the entire reparations argument.

Tax relieft is fundamentally different from giving people money, because tax relief encourages people to work harder (you can't get tax relief unless you have income that can be taxed), while giving people money encourages them to not work.

What this also does is that is gets the minority communities to support TAX CUTS, which they *NEVER* do.
And you know what the next step is? After they get their tax cuts for a while, the debate becomes, should we raise the taxes minorities so that they pay the same as everyone else, or should be cut taxes for everyone else to get them to the same rate as the minorities. Now, the Dems, who wants to raise taxes, will want to raise taxes on the minorities, and the Republicans, will be the ones who say, no, we don't want to raise taxes on anyone, this will get the minories to vote for the people who won't raise *their* taxes.


40 posted on 08/17/2004 3:16:54 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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"the U.S. should do what the Romans did:"

So should the United States also go belly up as a civilization?

That's what the Romans did.


56 posted on 08/17/2004 3:28:47 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude (If Kerry wins... we all lose.)
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To: unspun
This idea is intellectually absurd.

I always liked Keyes but this is making him look like a lightweight.

62 posted on 08/17/2004 3:35:02 PM PDT by yarddog
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I like Keyes on many issues. But sometimes he makes some stupid stupid comments that link him to the fruit loop gang.

This clarification was just further "muttelfication" (this is my word and I am sticking with it) in my book.

Keyes will never get the black vote and now has alienated his white voters.

Amazing

69 posted on 08/17/2004 3:48:25 PM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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