Poll: 75% of US Jews favor Kerry over Bush

Jpost ^ | 17 aug 04 | Janine Zacharia

[mench]

Folks, please do not buy this crap. This poll is a lie, a blood libel on Jews. Wait an see; we will shock those democratic nuts. Jews will vote for Bush in unprecedented large numbers!

[Jimmy Valentine]

"One reason that Jews prefer the Democrats is that they are the most socially leftist ethnic group in America".

How many dead Jews from the ravages of Socialism, Communism, Nazism, Collectivism, and all of the other socially leftist "isms" that have afflicted the World in the 19th and 20th Centuries?

Time for a reappraisal it seems to me.

Regards,

[wedwo]

You want to SPELL OUT what you mean by that?

[wedwo]

You want to SPELL OUT what you mean by that?

[wedwo]

You want to SPELL OUT what you mean by that?

[mrbillxx]

Prager addressed this one day on his show. It's more of a traditional thing. He says that as you grow up Jewish, there are 2 "rules". Don't eat pork and vote Democrat.

Yet he talks about the very conservative views of Jews.

[dalebert]

Fools.

[RobbyS]

Liberal democracy is the closest thing to religion that the majority of American Jews have.

[Jim_Curtis]

Why so much angst about a group which makes up around 2% of the population?

You avoid my questions and choose to hurl accusations.

It is possible that you have redefined "majority" to mean "totality".

For example: If I was a Jew who wasn't hostile to Christianity and I saw the words "most Jews are hostile to Christianity" I might feel that that particular truth threatens me. That I might be assumed something by belonging to a group for which the statement holds true for the majority.

The "nice" thing would then be to avoid stating the truth or perhaps make up a lie so the minority need not feel that it is unjustly being included with the majority. In the long run, avoiding the truth isn't at all "nice" though, it is very destructive.

[gcruse]

 Whither the Jewish Vote?

[Cacique]

No, Jews were not behind the rise of Hitler. Hitler began as an intellignece operative of the army assigned to infiltrate the small leftist party the NSDAP. He eventually took it over. His main backers were disgruntled veterans and German industrialists who saw him as a bulwark to Bolshevism. Jews however, did not take his anti-semtic rantings seriously and mistakenly had this idea that the "civilized" Germans would never try to wipe them out. They were as blind to the anti-semites then, as they are now. The israelis seem to have learned some of the lessons of history at a heavy price. Wereas some jews here would still for vote for someone like Jessie Jackson or a Sharpton because he has a D after his name. Sad but true.

[mench]

Well, since I'm 25 years old, I guess I'll be voting for Bush.

[Bella_Bru]

- I'm afraid that you are right and the attacks are getting bolder and more open, especially from the Hollywood establishment.

Yes because we rule Hollywood! Muahahahahahahaha!

Take your meds.

[wedwo]

JEWS FOR GEORGE! I have a feeling the DemonRats are in for a surprise this year. I think more Jewish voter will vote for Bush.

Maybe that'll silence some of you out there who feel the need to fling dung at Jews so readily - it almost seems natural and instinctual...(Jew Bashing endorsed by FR?)

[malakhi]

You avoid my questions

I assumed the questions in your last post were rhetorical. I'll look at them again.

and choose to hurl accusations.

The accusation that began this was YOURS: that "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". Bluntly speaking, that is a load of crap.

It is possible that you have redefined "majority" to mean "totality".

"Most" typically means "over half". I asked you what evidence you had that the "most" Jews wished doom upon Christianity. You had none to offer, other than your own "observations".

It is possible that you have redefined "opinion" to mean "empirically provable statement".

If I was a Jew who wasn't hostile to Christianity and I saw the words "most Jews are hostile to Christianity" I might feel that that particular truth threatens me.

As a Jew who isn't hostile to Christianity, I read such a statement as a falsehood and a lie. Certainly not as a "truth" that "threatens me".

That I might be assumed something by belonging to a group for which the statement holds true for the majority.

Sorry, JC, you have yet to establish your premise. Provide your evidence that "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". I'm not going to debate from the standpoint of false premises.

The "nice" thing would then be to avoid stating the truth

The LIE is that "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". The nice thing would be to avoid lying.

[windcliff]

ping

[Bella_Bru]

Liberal democracy is the closest thing to religion that the majority of American Jews have.

Liberal democracy is the closest thing to religion that the majority of American Christians have.

[Alouette]

A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council

They polled their own members. Duh. And even 25% of those are going over to the Bush side.

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[malakhi]

The vast majority of liberals are non-Scandinavians so is it wrong to ponder why most Scandinavians in Minnesota vote for 'rats? The vast majority of liberals are white so is it wrong to ponder why most blacks vote for Democrats? Is it to "blame" blacks to question why they mostly vote for 'rats?

There is nothing wrong with speculation. But a distinction should be made between "demonstrable fact" and "opinion" or "guesses".

In any case, you missed my point, which was that, numerically, Jews form a very small part of the electorate. Far more non-Jews vote for Democrats than do Jews. The 50% of Catholics who vote Democrat provide enormously more votes than the 70-80% of Jews who do.

[Bella_Bru]

Jim_Curtis, you might want to actually try to get to know some of us Joooooooos before you start making assumptions about us.

I do not hate Christians or wish for their doom. Unless they come bugging me at 7am though wanting to share their 'good news' with me.

Ask any Jewish FReeper. They wish no malice upon any Christian.