Posted on 08/17/2004 6:25:53 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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| Election 2004: Overseas military voters may be key to presidential race By Patrick Dickson, Stars and Stripes Pacific edition, Tuesday, August 17, 2004 Information The Internet can be a terrific resource for elections information, or a complete waste of time. Or both! Have a look at some of these Elections 2004 sites: ¶ www.georgewbush.com and www.johnkerry.com Promises, promises. The candidates stances on the big topics. ¶ www.votenader.org And then theres Ralph Nader. Hes running again. ¶ www.presidentmatch.com A short quiz on issues matches your positions with who would be your best choice. ¶ www.factcheck.org A great way to shoot down those Internet rumors and junk e-mails ¶ www.politics1.com A site with a wide range of election news items. ¶ www.cookpolitical.com A nonpartisan look at the political landscape in America. ¶ www.youth04.org A site run by college students, and targeted at potential voters age 18 to 25 ¶ www.comedycentral.com/ ¶ www.jibjab.com Home to the famous This land is your land parody with the weirdly jointed Kerry and Bush trading insults. Patrick Dickson WASHINGTON The two major parties have selected their candidates and staked out positions. Polls show that the electorate is fairly entrenched, and with our Electoral College system, the election could turn on a few key states. The voting assistance officers have fanned out to overseas bases and are reporting record numbers of people contacted. If you do the numbers, folks, youll see that the overseas military vote could decide the whole shootin match. In an extremely close election, the overseas vote will no doubt be critical in many states, said Jamin Raskin, professor at American University in Washington, D.C., who teaches election law. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Missouri and of course Florida are just five states, all with significant numbers of electoral votes, that are polling as dead heats. Every indication, every piece of research that Ive done on this election, tells me its too close to call, said Victoria Farrar-Myers, associate professor in the Department of Political Science at the University of Texas at Arlington. Another factor, Farrar-Myers says, makes this years race tighter than most. The military vote has trended Republican, thats not news to anyone, she said. But this year, theres an interesting twist: [Sen.] John Kerry is the military candidate. He is a veteran, and hes after the military vote and the veteran vote. You [saw] it in the Democratic National Convention John Kerry, reporting for duty. Hes going after the military vote, something the Democrats havent really done. Hes putting the military vote very much back into play. With George W. Bush, the military support is there, but its soft this time around. Theres an enormous strain on the military, Farrar-Myers said. Raskin agrees. Whats going to happen in this race is anyones guess, he said. The war veteran is the Democrat, and the president has a sort of murky National Guard history. The Bush camp vehemently denies this. Its had to quantify the overseas military vote, but its trended Republican and we dont anticipate that changing at all, said David Castillo, veterans coalition director at Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters in Arlington, Va. We feel that those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan understand that the president supports them, and that John Kerry turned his back on them when he voted against the $87 billion supplemental [funding] package and was not present for the vote on the $25 billion that passed in June. If the military vote did go to Kerry, it would be a fairly significant cultural shift, Raskin said. Its safe to say that the military vote has tended to support the incumbent during wartime. It also has leaned Republican for several decades now. The pivotal moment was probably the Vietnam War, when the Democrats became the anti-war party. The electorate was reorganized during the 60s along this cultural fault line, and the GOP began leaning to military strength and nationalism. By the numbers According to a report to the president and Congress from the Federal Voting Assistance Program, it is estimated that about 37 percent of U.S. citizens overseas vote. Overall turnout among the American public in the 2000 presidential election was around 50 percent. But take heart: About 70 percent of military personnel do. Americans abroad have not turned out to vote in large numbers, historically. Some see the registration and voting procedures, mailing and waiting, as unnecessarily complicated. And there have long been urban legends that their votes are not counted or just get lost or thrown away. Historically, I mean, [the problems of election year] 2000 are not new; theres been an ongoing problem with disenfranchisement with the overseas vote, Farrar-Myers said. Raskin points to the 2000 election. The most graphic episode occurred with the Florida vote in 2000, where the overseas vote seems to have pushed Bush over the top. Florida was unique, because the votes came in in stages, so it was easier to track which way they [voted]. But with the legal resources being deployed by both sides, Raskin said, no state is going to throw out piles of ballots. An angry tone What bothers many Americans is the nastiness and entrenchment on both sides. CNN, once derided as the Clinton News Network, is considered liberal beyond hope, and liberals, or progressives, as they now call themselves, scream bloody murder at Fox calling itself fair and balanced. Both sides have their attack dogs, and what were once sober analyses of views on the Sunday morning talk shows have turned into fatuous free-for-alls in prime time. Youd think a hockey game is going to break out at any minute. Were at a point in our country where its either all about Fahrenheit 9/11 or its all about ultra-Conservatism, said retired Army Gen. Tommy Franks, in town to promote his book, American Soldier. My experience in this grand democracy, Franks said Aug. 9, has been that life in America is somewhere between those two poles, and so I try to stay away from the hyperbolic in this thing that Well, Michael Moore had it all right or he was a lyin, cheatin, no good son of a gun. I mean, theres fact and theres fiction involved in that particular piece, just like theres fact and theres fiction in the other extreme But we ought to stop the business of sayin, If you disagree with me, youre not a patriot. If you disagree with me, youre not a good American. In my view, theres too much of that. And so, my fellow Americans, send in those federal postcard applications as soon as you can, and vote. It might just be you and those in your unit who help decide the winner. |
Jihadists who feed their children on hate and send them to murder women and children are not morally equivalent to US Soldiers who risk their lives for the children of strangers.
"Death to infidels" is not morally equivalent to "love thy neighbor."
American Soldiers who liberate the oppressed are not morally equivalent to their accusers who profit by exploiting the weak.
Opinion is not morally equivalent to a proven record of success. Plans are not morally equivalent to actions. Instant gratification is not morally equivalent to patiently working towards a difficult goal. Fantasy is not morally equivalent to reality. Is = IS.
Whatever individuals from both parties do or say this election year, the two men running for President of the United States are not morally equivalent.
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Just for 2004: No book, no vote.
Citizenship, after all, should be a little costly. If the right to cast a free ballot has cost some of our forerunners their very lives, is it so bad to put a couple of speed bumps in the road to the voting booth? Is it wrong to ask would-be voters to offer a little proof that theyve thought things through?...""The life of our nation really is at stake. There really are people out there and their numbers are growing who want us to disappear from the face of the earth...The Commission seeks believably, I think to persuade us that this is no passing squabble, but a gigantic ideological battle of the kind that could easily go on for a generation.
I know Democrats dont want to be known for any illiberal ideas like book banning. But for their own protection this year, The 9/11 Commission Report is one book they should try hard to keep out of every voters hands."
Required reading - Voters should know the contents of The 9/11 Commission Report - World Magazine | Joel Belz
Being a military dependent, I was and am still outraged.
They better count them THIS time. I will certainly be screaming.
Florida knit picked every military absentee ballot so bad, they just kept throwing them out. It was disgraceful.
8DoD Pushes Absentee Ballot Reforms
Air Force:
8Wherever you are, your vote counts - Gen. Robert H. "Doc" Foglesong, U.S. Air Forces in Europe commander
Yes and since Kerry was a traitor and communist appeaser, even more military votes will go to Bush, even some that would normally vote Democrat.
TRUE! Now, if we can keep Al Bore from getting the absentee ballots tossed, Hanoi John will be kicked to the curb.
Bump!
Every Vote Counts ~ Bump!
2004 Military Absentee Vote - ping.
Roger That ~ Bump!
Other than to see that "every vote is counted" from the felon and cemetary communities, what do you think the 6,000 lawyers that the DNC has lined up are for? They are to be sure that as many military ballots as possible are tossed.
Thanks for the ping!
Military Absentee Vote bump!
Yes, FL was the worst. But what has always frosted me is that the Dems continue to say that they "won the popular vote", when the truth is that we don't know that.
States like CA never bothered to count the absentee votes (many of which were military) because there weren't enough to make a difference in the state totals. That's ok, but if we want to decide all of a sudden that popular vote totals count, then we should count every vote.
Oh, I forgot - "Count every vote" only means "count every Dem vote". < /sarcasm>
Bump!
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