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Overseas military voters may be key to presidential race (+ Election 2004 guide)
Stars and Stripes ^ | August 17, 2004 | Patrick Dickson

Posted on 08/17/2004 6:25:53 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl


Tuesday, August 17, 2004
Election 2004:
Overseas military voters may be key to presidential race



By Patrick Dickson, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Tuesday, August 17, 2004

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Click here to view or download Stars and Stripes' Election 2004 guide (PDF format, 2.7 MB), with graphics and two pages of "on the street" interviews in which servicemembers talk about the election.
 

Information
on the Web ...

The Internet can be a terrific resource for elections information, or a complete waste of time. Or both! Have a look at some of these Elections 2004 sites:

www.georgewbush.com and www.johnkerry.com — Promises, promises. The candidates’ stances on the big topics.

www.votenader.org — And then there’s Ralph Nader. He’s running again.

www.presidentmatch.com — A short quiz on issues matches your positions with who would be your best choice.

www.factcheck.org — A great way to shoot down those Internet rumors and junk e-mails

www.politics1.com — A site with a wide range of election news items.

www.cookpolitical.com — A nonpartisan look at the political landscape in America.

www.youth04.org — A site run by college students, and targeted at potential voters age 18 to 25

www.comedycentral.com/
tv_shows/indecision2004/
— Some silly stuff from Jon Stewart’s crew at The Daily Show

www.jibjab.com — Home to the famous “This land is your land” parody with the weirdly jointed Kerry and Bush trading insults.

— Patrick Dickson

WASHINGTON — The two major parties have selected their candidates and staked out positions.

Polls show that the electorate is fairly entrenched, and with our Electoral College system, the election could turn on a few key states.

The voting assistance officers have fanned out to overseas bases and are reporting record numbers of people contacted.

If you do the numbers, folks, you’ll see that the overseas military vote could decide the whole shootin’ match.

“In an extremely close election, the overseas vote will no doubt be critical in many states,” said Jamin Raskin, professor at American University in Washington, D.C., who teaches election law.

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Missouri and of course Florida are just five states, all with significant numbers of electoral votes, that are polling as dead heats.

“Every indication, every piece of research that I’ve done on this election, tells me it’s too close to call,” said Victoria Farrar-Myers, associate professor in the Department of Political Science at the University of Texas at Arlington.

Another factor, Farrar-Myers says, makes this year’s race tighter than most.

“The military vote has trended Republican, that’s not news to anyone,” she said. “But this year, there’s an interesting twist: [Sen.] John Kerry is the military candidate. He is a veteran, and he’s after the military vote and the veteran vote.

“You [saw] it in the Democratic National Convention — ‘John Kerry, reporting for duty.’ He’s going after the military vote, something the Democrats haven’t really done. He’s putting the military vote very much back into play.

“With George W. Bush, the military support is there, but it’s soft this time around. There’s an enormous strain on the military,” Farrar-Myers said.

Raskin agrees.

“What’s going to happen in this race is anyone’s guess,” he said. “The war veteran is the Democrat, and the president has a sort of murky National Guard history.”

The Bush camp vehemently denies this.

“It’s had to quantify the overseas military vote, but it’s trended Republican and we don’t anticipate that changing at all,” said David Castillo, veterans coalition director at Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters in Arlington, Va.

“We feel that those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan understand that the president supports them, and that John Kerry turned his back on them when he voted against the $87 billion supplemental [funding] package and was not present for the vote on the $25 billion” that passed in June.

If the military vote did go to Kerry, it would be a fairly significant cultural shift, Raskin said.

“It’s safe to say that the military vote has tended to support the incumbent during wartime. It also has leaned Republican for several decades now.

“The pivotal moment was probably the Vietnam War, when the Democrats became the anti-war party. The electorate was reorganized during the ’60s along this cultural fault line, and the GOP began leaning to military strength and nationalism.”

By the numbers

According to a report to the president and Congress from the Federal Voting Assistance Program, it is estimated that about 37 percent of U.S. citizens overseas vote. Overall turnout among the American public in the 2000 presidential election was around 50 percent.

But take heart: About 70 percent of military personnel do.

Americans abroad have not turned out to vote in large numbers, historically. Some see the registration and voting procedures, mailing and waiting, as unnecessarily complicated. And there have long been urban legends that their votes are not counted or just get lost or thrown away.

“Historically, I mean, [the problems of election year] 2000 are not new; there’s been an ongoing problem with disenfranchisement with the overseas vote,” Farrar-Myers said.

Raskin points to the 2000 election.

“The most graphic episode occurred with the Florida vote in 2000, where the overseas vote seems to have pushed Bush over the top. Florida was unique, because the votes came in in stages, so it was easier to track which way they [voted].

“But with the legal resources being deployed by both sides,” Raskin said, “no state is going to throw out piles of ballots.

An angry tone

What bothers many Americans is the nastiness and entrenchment on both sides.

CNN, once derided as the Clinton News Network, is considered liberal beyond hope, and liberals, or “progressives,” as they now call themselves, scream bloody murder at Fox calling itself fair and balanced. Both sides have their attack dogs, and what were once sober analyses of views on the Sunday morning talk shows have turned into fatuous free-for-alls in prime time. You’d think a hockey game is going to break out at any minute.

“We’re at a point in our country where it’s either all about ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ or it’s all about ultra-Conservatism,” said retired Army Gen. Tommy Franks, in town to promote his book, “American Soldier.”

“My experience in this grand democracy,” Franks said Aug. 9, “has been that life in America is somewhere between those two poles, and so I try to stay away from the hyperbolic in this thing — that ‘Well, Michael Moore had it all right’ or ‘he was a lyin’, cheatin’, no good son of a gun.’

“I mean, there’s fact and there’s fiction involved in that particular piece, just like there’s fact and there’s fiction in the other extreme …

“But we ought to stop the business of sayin’, ‘If you disagree with me, you’re not a patriot. If you disagree with me, you’re not a good American.’” In my view, there’s too much of that.”

And so, my fellow Americans, send in those federal postcard applications as soon as you can, and vote. It might just be you and those in your unit who help decide the winner.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: election2004; everyvotecounts; militaryvote; supportourtroops
The international mainstream media, current Old European and UN leadership, and those who align themselves against the United States - including John Kerry and his party today, in speeches and votes - by words and deeds - appease and embolden the jihadists, and are not morally equivalent to those who courageously face this enemy, and risk their popularity, freedom, and lives for the freedom of all.

Jihadists who feed their children on hate and send them to murder women and children are not morally equivalent to US Soldiers who risk their lives for the children of strangers.

"Death to infidels" is not morally equivalent to "love thy neighbor."

American Soldiers who liberate the oppressed are not morally equivalent to their accusers who profit by exploiting the weak.

Opinion is not morally equivalent to a proven record of success. Plans are not morally equivalent to actions. Instant gratification is not morally equivalent to patiently working towards a difficult goal. Fantasy is not morally equivalent to reality. Is = IS.

Whatever individuals from both parties do or say this election year, the two men running for President of the United States are not morally equivalent.

~*~

"....for Election Day 2004...Just this once, let’s ask everyone to show up with his or her own copy of the paperback version of The 9/11 Commission Report. It should be slightly dog-eared to prove that it’s actually been read. Maybe poll watchers should even ask each prospect to point to one underlined paragraph that the reader thinks is especially pertinent.

Just for 2004: No book, no vote.

Citizenship, after all, should be a little costly. If the right to cast a free ballot has cost some of our forerunners their very lives, is it so bad to put a couple of speed bumps in the road to the voting booth? Is it wrong to ask would-be voters to offer a little proof that they’ve thought things through?...""The life of our nation really is at stake. There really are people out there — and their numbers are growing — who want us to disappear from the face of the earth...The Commission seeks — believably, I think — to persuade us that this is no passing squabble, but a gigantic ideological battle of the kind that could easily go on for a generation.

I know Democrats don’t want to be known for any illiberal ideas like book banning. But for their own protection this year, The 9/11 Commission Report is one book they should try hard to keep out of every voter’s hands."

star Required reading - Voters should know the contents of The 9/11 Commission Report  - World Magazine | Joel Belz

1 posted on 08/17/2004 6:25:54 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Yes, the military absentee vote was key back in the last Election, too. But Florida refused to count them.

Being a military dependent, I was and am still outraged.

They better count them THIS time. I will certainly be screaming.

Florida knit picked every military absentee ballot so bad, they just kept throwing them out. It was disgraceful.

2 posted on 08/17/2004 6:30:50 AM PDT by SheLion (The terrorist are here.......living among us. It's too late to close the borders.)
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Military helping military:
 
  Federal Voting Assistance Program: 
8http://www.fvap.gov/

8Defense Department Special Briefing on Federal Voting Assistance Program
 
8New procedures will ensure absentee ballots count  - Air Force Link  | 8/06/04 | Tech. Sgt. Patrick Murphy

8DoD Pushes Absentee Ballot Reforms

Air Force:

8Airmen Votes

8Wherever you are, your vote counts  - Gen. Robert H. "Doc" Foglesong, U.S. Air Forces in Europe commander

 
USMC:
 
8USMC Voting Home Page
 
Army:
 
8Leadership backs absentee voter registration - Army leaders tape ads for
 
8Army Voting Assistance Program that will air on the Pentagon Channel, American Forces networks overseas and local command channels beginning the week of Aug. 9.
 
8Postal initiative to speed absentee ballots to Soldiers
8HRC sends largest AKO e-mail to date
8Counsel outlines political limits for Army personnel
8Army program helps with absentee voting.
 
Navy:
 
8SECNAV Reminds Sailors to Vote - Secretary of the Navy Gordon R. England

3 posted on 08/17/2004 6:32:44 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (I am glad that when freedom is in the balance, America is not on the sidelines.- John Ashcroft, 8/15)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

4 posted on 08/17/2004 6:37:41 AM PDT by xrp
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
“But this year, there’s an interesting twist: [Sen.] John Kerry is the military candidate. He is a veteran, and he’s after the military vote and the veteran vote.

Yes and since Kerry was a traitor and communist appeaser, even more military votes will go to Bush, even some that would normally vote Democrat.

5 posted on 08/17/2004 6:38:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: RockinRight

TRUE! Now, if we can keep Al Bore from getting the absentee ballots tossed, Hanoi John will be kicked to the curb.


6 posted on 08/17/2004 6:39:57 AM PDT by gunnygail (Kerry's allies? The awesome power of Belgium, the courage of Spain, and the moral clarity of France.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; TEXOKIE; xzins; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; Calpernia; SAMWolf; prairiebreeze; ..
    
                                                                                                                                    
 
       Every vote counts (the vote of an informed US Soldier counts more than mine!), ping!
 
Stars and Stripes voting guide +.
 
~*~
 
"If an attitude of skepticism were to succeed in calling into question even the fundamental principles of the moral law, the democratic system itself would be shaken in its foundations....The United States possesses a safeguard, a great bulwark, against this happening. I speak of your founding documents: the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. These documents are grounded in and embody unchanging principles of the natural law whose permanent truth and validity can be known by reason, for it is the law written by God in human hearts." 
          - Pope John Paul II, Oct. 8,  1995, Baltimore           

7 posted on 08/17/2004 7:20:37 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (I am glad that when freedom is in the balance, America is not on the sidelines.- John Ashcroft, 8/15)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


8 posted on 08/17/2004 7:46:05 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Every Vote Counts ~ Bump!


9 posted on 08/17/2004 8:01:44 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; MeekOneGOP; devolve; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Smartass; JohnHuang2; Jim Robinson

2004 Military Absentee Vote - ping.


10 posted on 08/17/2004 8:44:38 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; devolve; potlatch; Mia T; Smartass; B4Ranch; JohnHuang2; ..
Rest Assured Marines . .
We’ll do everything we can to steal your vote!

11 posted on 08/17/2004 8:49:03 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; blackie

12 posted on 08/17/2004 8:50:26 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe; Lady In Blue; Darksheare

Roger That ~ Bump!


13 posted on 08/17/2004 8:53:51 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: gunnygail
TRUE! Now, if we can keep Al Bore from getting the absentee ballots tossed, Hanoi John will be kicked to the curb

Other than to see that "every vote is counted" from the felon and cemetary communities, what do you think the 6,000 lawyers that the DNC has lined up are for? They are to be sure that as many military ballots as possible are tossed.

14 posted on 08/17/2004 9:17:35 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 08/17/2004 9:22:55 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Happy2BMe

16 posted on 08/17/2004 9:34:58 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Military Absentee Vote bump!


17 posted on 08/17/2004 10:00:28 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
For those who lean toward Kerry:

Kerry has said that the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world ONLY at the directive of the United Nation."

Can you picture a "Girlie Man" military wearing powder blue helmets with Kofi Anan as their leader?"
18 posted on 08/17/2004 12:37:24 PM PDT by ketchikan
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To: SheLion
Yes, the military absentee vote was key back in the last Election, too. But Florida refused to count them.

Yes, FL was the worst. But what has always frosted me is that the Dems continue to say that they "won the popular vote", when the truth is that we don't know that.
States like CA never bothered to count the absentee votes (many of which were military) because there weren't enough to make a difference in the state totals. That's ok, but if we want to decide all of a sudden that popular vote totals count, then we should count every vote.

Oh, I forgot - "Count every vote" only means "count every Dem vote". < /sarcasm>

19 posted on 08/17/2004 3:23:53 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


20 posted on 08/18/2004 7:02:12 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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