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Keyes has plans for reparations
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8/17/04 | Allison Benedikt and David Mendell

Posted on 08/17/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

One day after their first meeting, U.S. Senate hopefuls Barack Obama and Alan Keyes were back on the campaign trail again Monday.

Speaking at a news conference at the Hotel InterContinental in Chicago, Republican Keyes added to his now familiar talking points his stance on slavery reparations.

Prompted by a reporter's question, Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment." In calling for the tax relief, Keyes appeared to be reaching out to capture the black vote, something that may prove difficult to do, particularly after his unwelcome reception at the Bud Billiken Day Parade Saturday...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: apologistsforkeyes; atotalnutcase; flipflopalan; keyes; panderalan; pullsracecardagain; reparations; solomonsplitlibbaby; taxwhitesonly
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To: Saundra Duffy; rdb3; mhking

I'm liking the sound of it! The intended benefactors of the Great Society would be enlisted into the front ranks of that righteous effort to wean us all off of government. Who else would make better advocates for smaller government?


81 posted on 08/17/2004 6:41:07 AM PDT by risk
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To: Aquinasfan

If this is true, Keyes' political career in the GOP is finito.


82 posted on 08/17/2004 6:41:25 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: FITZ

The downside of this plan is that once people are paying no taxes, they have no incentive to cut taxes for anyone else. On the other hand, they have no exscuse for their own failure but themselves, a point I'm sure Keyes is trying to get across.


83 posted on 08/17/2004 6:45:18 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Owl_Eagle
I want to know where my reparations are for the slaves taken from my ancestors.

Me too. I want the old Plantation back too, which means the government needs to turn over what is now Kings Bay Naval Submarine Station to me PRONTO.

84 posted on 08/17/2004 6:47:03 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Aquinasfan

What is Keyes smoking?


85 posted on 08/17/2004 6:47:37 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: FITZ
That is one large special interest group who is exempt from income taxes.

Yea , but presumably they are also exempt from the benefits of citizenship: voting , etc ..It can be debated that this is being circumvented, but for the most part they are "underground" in most every way.

Now you're talking about making it official policy: YOU pay nothing, I pay for you!

Many people pay no income tax and many actually get EITC --- a form of welfare --- a tax refund for taxes they didn't pay

Thats true, and it sucks, but you still have to meet the dependency requirement. You dont just get it for having black skin, nor do you get if for just showing up!

86 posted on 08/17/2004 6:47:39 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: aruanan

That's what I figured happened.

However, the idea is interesting. Keyes nips it in the bud.


87 posted on 08/17/2004 6:47:50 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: FITZ
Open your mind --- for one is Kobe Bryant from Illinois anyhow?

What does that have to do with it? Keyes was talking about Federal income tax, which isn't limited to residents of Illinois, as far as I know.

Our goal as conservatives should be to treat all citizens equally and fairly regardless of race.

88 posted on 08/17/2004 6:48:35 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Aquinasfan
All blacks would be fiscal conservatives when the time limit was about to run out.

Where did the Chicago Tribune get this? I couldn't read the whole article (won't register at the CT and BugMeNot.com seems to be down). I waded through every speech of Keyes whose title seemed applicable and found nothing. Alan Keyes archives.

Given that the Chicago Tribune is the fishwrap dejour that filed suit to open the divorce records of the IL GOPs first Sen. candidate (against his and his ex's will) thus scuttling his run I don't believe a word they say. I also note that they are yet another leftist rag that doesn't want FR to have easy access to their propaganda.

89 posted on 08/17/2004 6:49:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: Callahan
The lib establishment will naturally decry this idea, even though exemption from the federal income tax would be a huge advantage/incentive for all black people.

I'm sure P. Diddy, Shaq and Whitney Houston can use the extra dough.

90 posted on 08/17/2004 6:49:16 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Callahan
Democrats would have no trouble answering your question, not that would understand their logic.

I hate to use the word, but Keyes proposal is incredibly divisive along racial lines. The implication that I owe ANYTHING to another group of people beyond my contracted debts brings such a vicious knee-jerk response that I cannot examine the proposal rationally.

He could couch the same things in terms of helping blighted areas and it would not bother me a bit. Calling it reparations and deliberately enacting it along racial lines... get a me rope.
91 posted on 08/17/2004 6:49:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: Callahan

I do think Stern was grudgingly a Bush supporter before the FCC thing came along.


92 posted on 08/17/2004 6:49:36 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: Aquinasfan

40 years of negative taxes - welfare - hasn't helped, neither will no taxes.

Keyes has gone over the deep end. He's lost his bearings.


93 posted on 08/17/2004 6:49:52 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Aquinasfan
“African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes”

Everybody sing!... Nuthin' from nuthin' means nuthin'...

94 posted on 08/17/2004 6:50:28 AM PDT by johnny7 (“You know... my 40 ft. Hinckley is named ''The Scaramouch'!” -Jawn Fawbs Karrie)
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To: Aquinasfan

But are we not way past the second generation ?


95 posted on 08/17/2004 6:51:14 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: BunnySlippers
What is Keyes smoking?

From the looks of it the IL DNC. They seem to be digging fast and furious to find something to shoot him down with. : )

96 posted on 08/17/2004 6:52:21 AM PDT by TigersEye (Just when you thought it was safe to post again!)
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To: RockinRight

I have no concern with this position. First, most blacks who would want to pursue this are not paying taxes now and second, the proof will be impossible to find without an expensive search. What Keyes has done is cut into Obama's base of support. Now Obama must state his position. He is in a no win position, this was brilliant on Keyes' part.

Keyes will lead and make you think, he is the right choice for Illinois.

Vote for Keyes, vote Republican.


97 posted on 08/17/2004 6:52:48 AM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I'm curious, do you have a source for that?


98 posted on 08/17/2004 6:53:42 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: BunnySlippers

That's the hilarity of it. They will.


99 posted on 08/17/2004 6:54:49 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: VRWC_minion
There is something interesting about this proposal. In practice, those "hardest hit" by economics have no tax to pay anyways. Those who are earning good salaries now would obviously be exempted.

In short, his proposal highlights the fact that poor people are not currently paying their share and that in itself is reparations.

100 posted on 08/17/2004 6:55:08 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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