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Boston Globe: Speak for yourself, John Kerry
Boston Globe ^ | August 17, 2004 | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 08/17/2004 12:51:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

........Kerry's statements about Cambodia do have traction for opponents. He has referred to spending Christmas or Christmas Eve 1968 in Cambodia and coming under fire. At the time Cambodia was neutral and supposedly off-limits to US troops. "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia," Kerry said in 1986 at a Senate committee hearing on US policy toward Central America. "I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there, the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared -- seared -- in me."

The Kerry campaign now says Kerry's runs into Cambodia came in early 1969. "Swift boat crews regularly operated along the Cambodian border from Ha Tien on the Gulf of Thailand to the rivers of the Mekong south and west of Saigon," Michael Meehan, a Kerry adviser, said in a statement last week. "Many times he was on or near the Cambodian border and on one occasion crossed into Cambodia at the request of members of a special operations group."

Answers like that aren't good enough. Kerry put his Vietnam service before voters as the seminal character issue of his presidential campaign. He should answer every question voters have about it -- and he should answer them himself.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; christmasncambodia; johnkerry; kerry; kerrylies; swiftboat; swiftboatveterans; veterans; vietnam
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Where's my colleagues' interest in Kerry's war records?....As to the truth of this tale, there is only Kerry's word, which the press seems quite willing to take, to the extent of not reporting on the controversy at all. It is not a trivial matter. Kerry has pimped the story repeatedly in an effort to paint himself as a stand-up eyewitness to events that were both illegal and, in his view, immoral.

And that's not the only issue that reporters are curiously incurious about. At least one of Kerry's Purple Hearts has been challenged by his unit's medical officer, who notes that the wound was barely visible and was treated with a Band-Aid. Some questions should also be asked about his Silver Star: Should shooting a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back — as justifiable as it was as an act of war — be worthy of the nation's third-highest award for courage?

To those of you who say such questions are unseemly, consider that John Kerry's principal claim on the presidency is that he served four months and 11 days in Vietnam. OK, fine. Let's examine the records — all the records, which, unlike Bush and contrary to popular perception, Kerry has not released — and have a debate. We would be if it were George W. Bush. The media would see to it.

Cearnal is the special projects editor at the Chronicle. A former Marine helicopter pilot, he served in Vietnam from mid-1968 through mid-1969. Readers may e-mail him at lee.cearnal@chron.com

1 posted on 08/17/2004 12:51:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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LA Times: Veterans Battle Over the Truth*** .........Since the anti-Kerry ad first surfaced, Kerry's crewmates have fanned out in his defense. Along with Rassmann, crewmates Del Sandusky, leading petty officer with Kerry on PCF-94, and Gene Thorson decried the allegations as politically inspired "garbage."

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a Vietnam veteran who has endorsed Bush, called the ad "dishonest and dishonorable." He said that "none of these individuals served on the boat [Kerry] commanded," adding that he believed "John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam."

In a lengthy interview between the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth's first news conference in May and the controversy last week, Kerry called the group's allegations pure "politics."

"Some of them don't like the fact that I opposed the war, and 35 years later some people still want to argue about that," Kerry said in the June interview. "It's way beyond me, can I tell you? It's so far beyond and past now. I feel sad about it."

He said he respected the service all Swift boat crews gave to their country and lauded their courage.

"So I'm at peace with myself, and I'm sorry they feel the way they do," Kerry said, "because I respect them. I really do."***

2 posted on 08/17/2004 12:53:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Are these cracks in the kerry 'press wall' that I see?????


3 posted on 08/17/2004 12:59:00 AM PDT by flashbunny (Click on my name!!! I dare you!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bush is the known purveyor of false information. He is the president who convinced a nation to wage war because, as he told us, Iraq represented an imminent threat to America.

Who exactly is purveying false information here? President Bush never said that the threat was imminent. He said that we must not wait until the threat was imminent. This commentator knows that, yet persists in basing the notion that Bush is a liar on this one, easily-refutable falsehood.

4 posted on 08/17/2004 1:00:23 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Great find! The knives are out.


5 posted on 08/17/2004 1:00:28 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: flashbunny; neverdem

Things are cooking!


6 posted on 08/17/2004 1:03:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since the anti-Kerry ad first surfaced, Kerry's crewmates have fanned out in his defense.

Why doesn't someone simply ask the crewmates if they were in Cambodia? Oh; pardon me: they've been bought and paid for, and as such, aren't permitted to make statements without the approval of the Kerry campaign.

7 posted on 08/17/2004 1:03:41 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's tempting to come out with his bunny suit pic, his motorbike pic, etc. The man not only gets into funny situations, he looks goofy to boot. Kerry is the Lucille Ball of politics.

New tagline...


8 posted on 08/17/2004 1:04:34 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Their credibility unravels.)
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To: neverdem

And the book is barely hitting the street now! The hungry beast is just starting to awake. Hopefully, soon the press will be feeding ravenously off the corpse of John Kerry's political carcass.


9 posted on 08/17/2004 1:07:08 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
But she's calling her candidate out. She wants him to defend his record - perhaps open his miltary records!?

______________________________________________ ALL: The entire Boston Globe piece is worth reading.

10 posted on 08/17/2004 1:07:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But she's calling her candidate out. She wants him to defend his record - perhaps open his miltary records!?

I wouldn't look for her to press the issue.

11 posted on 08/17/2004 1:11:16 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm glad I went to the Globe link and read the whole column: from the excerpt, it almost seemed Vennochi had a road-to-Damascus experience. It was a relief of sorts to see that she's still a Kool-aid drinker.

But at least she's arguing for the right thing (if for the wrong reasons); she really thinks Kerry could put the doubts to rest if only he would be a stand-up guy and answer the charges himself. Right on, Vennochi! Keep up the pressure! (snicker)

12 posted on 08/17/2004 1:12:21 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

She's been writing a lot of unflattering pieces about Kerry. Perhaps she's in the Clinton camp.


13 posted on 08/17/2004 1:13:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

To the Boston Globe....

It is not the Bush administration that has to turn this campaign into a contest between liars.

George W. Bush is NOT a liar, and we all know it. The evidence of Bush's courage, honesty and faith are all around us and only someone wilfully blinded by partisan hate could fail to recognize that.

Kerry, on the other hand, by the Globe's own words, stands condemned as a calculating liar.

Perhaps the most likely reason Kerry does not refute these charges himself is that he cannot.


14 posted on 08/17/2004 1:16:08 AM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

She's not been a rah-rah Kerry supporter.


15 posted on 08/17/2004 1:16:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: flashbunny
There are a few cracks here and there in the "press wall," but so far no significant structural damage. I am sure that the average voter remains almost totally ignorant of the Swifties issue. At best there might be a vague awareness of something controversial about Kerry's military service.

Time will tell if this issue attains critical mass, but so far the MSM is doing an excellent job of burying it.

16 posted on 08/17/2004 1:17:52 AM PDT by omniscient
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
By "Kool-aid" drinker, I meant her swallowing the anti-Bush line. She does seem to be trying to maintain a forlorn hope that Kerry will come through (since he's all they have).

Perhaps she's in the Clinton camp.

Perhaps she just can't stomach Kerry. At least her gag reflex is still working. ;-)

17 posted on 08/17/2004 1:20:53 AM PDT by maryz
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To: neverdem

Blood in the water.


18 posted on 08/17/2004 1:21:05 AM PDT by hershey
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To: omniscient

I wouldn't say excellent.

If they were doing an excellent job of burying this, there wouldn't be so many storys, editorials and news reports about it.


19 posted on 08/17/2004 1:21:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Liberal press is the liberal press,, but coming a politician that happens to be a habitual liar. This is the only "exciting" or news wothy thing about John Kerry, The media are a bunch of shark .Once they smell blood, how long can they really stay off? We will have to wait and see.
20 posted on 08/17/2004 1:21:35 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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