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CYBER FEARS ON FED'S WEB PLAN
NY Post ^ | August 15, 2004 | HILARY KRAMER

Posted on 08/15/2004 12:21:04 PM PDT by neverdem

August 15, 2004 -- With little fanfare, the Federal Reserve will begin transferring the nation's money supply over an Internet-based system this month — a move critics say could open the U.S.'s banking system to cyber threats.

The Fed moves about $1.8 trillion a day on a closed, stand-alone computer network. But soon it will switch to a system called FedLine Advantage, a Web-based technology.

Proponents say the system is more efficient and flexible. The current system is outdated, using DOS — Microsoft's predecessor to the Windows operating system.

But security experts say the threat of outside access is too big a risk.

"The Fed is now going to be vulnerable in two distinct ways. A hacker could break in to the Fed's network and have full access to the system, or a hacker might not have complete access but enough to cause a denial or disruptions of service," said George Kurtz, co-author of "Hacking Exposed" and CEO of Foundstone, an Internet security company.

"If a security breach strikes the very heart of the financial world and money stops moving around, then our financial system will literally start to collapse and chaos will ensue."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banking; cyberwarfare; eft; fed; federalreserve; internet; money; warfare; web

1 posted on 08/15/2004 12:21:10 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

DOS is safer, simply because most of us have forgotten how to use it, and the young hackers never saw it.


2 posted on 08/15/2004 12:25:10 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: neverdem

Damn paypal is into everything these days.


3 posted on 08/15/2004 12:31:28 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone; neverdem

This is frightening. As careful as I am about all my systems, I think that all of my computers have been infected with "back doors" despite all precautions and efforts made to clean them up. I am not ever going to do anything with them that has anything to do with bank accounts or credit cards.


4 posted on 08/15/2004 12:32:31 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: neverdem
So the 'federal' 'reserve'® has a secure 'closed, stand alone network,', but has now decided to move to a 'flexible' web-based system which will leave them open to security breaches, which could result in 'financial collapse and chaos'. Got it.
5 posted on 08/15/2004 12:35:48 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: neverdem
Cyberspace gives AlQaeda RefugeWhy would they want to open our money transactions to the dangers of terrorists?
6 posted on 08/15/2004 12:38:52 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: Admin Moderator; JohnHuang2

I posted this story as breaking news. You decided that the security of the Federal Reserve Banking System did not merit such a posting category.

So be it. However, anyone familiar with the tabloid New York Post knows this would never be frontpage news in a million years!


7 posted on 08/15/2004 12:56:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: fourdeuce82d

ping


8 posted on 08/15/2004 2:01:07 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Unless the old system is truly, end to end, completely and entirely physically separate from any network with Internet connectivity, it was never that secure in the first place.

The new system is very probably a virtual private network, and the traffic on it is encrypted. This is as safe as being on a separate layer-2 connection.


9 posted on 08/15/2004 3:05:56 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: eno_
Surprisingly enough, all of the manuals for the current implementation of FedLine are online, I think over at the Federal Reserve website.

Working from memory, it was a decent standalone system; used real hardware encryption from standalone PCs, which dialed into the servers; I believe the PCs were supposed to be otherwise standalone, not on a network. There were suggested policies and procedures, none of which looked too bad, standard items such as regular password changes and whatnot.

I am sure that there are plenty of freepers who have real world experience with the current FedLine (or who are feeling industrious enough to go read the manuals) who will be happy to let me know where my memory has failed.

I certainly don't like the idea of running FedLine over the Internet, but SWIFT, for instance, has already been doing this for some time and I don't know of really bad incidents as of yet.

10 posted on 08/15/2004 3:47:19 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander

Your memory is correct.

May two years ago we upgraded our 386 FedLine to a 486!


11 posted on 08/15/2004 4:13:16 PM PDT by Captiva (Bond Ghoul)
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To: Dog Gone
The current system is outdated, using DOS

DOS is not "dated" is simply looks different and it is a operating system. An operating system that was the heart of the Windows Graphical User Interface through WIN 286, WIN 386, Windows 3 Windows 95 and Windows 98 . . . which is what Microsloth called Windows before they had D's of G and began to declare Windoze an "operating system."

I do take a bit of pleasure in bumping into some hot "tec" that starts babbling on about WindyHoles Slaver 2000 or the "new features" of XP. First thing, I tell them to "boot to Command Prompt, were gonna check a few things." The tiny beads of sweat just pop right out. When they ask how I got so fast at command line structure, I reply "Novell 3 CNE school, but using just DOS for a few years helps."

tee-hee!

12 posted on 08/15/2004 8:25:01 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: Dog Gone
DOS is safer, simply because most of us have forgotten how to use it, and the young hackers never saw it.

Then there are those of us who still have their copy of "DOS for Dummies"...

13 posted on 08/15/2004 9:43:31 PM PDT by Grani ("Kerry WAS in Cambodia......before he was NOT in Cambodia." --- RonDog)
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To: neverdem

The Federal Reserve will shortly be history in America.The NH is passing house bill 1342.


14 posted on 09/19/2004 11:47:31 AM PDT by taxtruth
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