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Democrats Peddle Their Own Unique Truth (Steyn On Kerry, McGreevey and Dem Fondness For Lying)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 8/15/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/14/2004 6:06:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: atomicpossum
'' 'He'll often thrash around in the night,' the filmmaker George Butler, who is one of Kerry's oldest friends, told me.

Flip-flopping?

LOL!

By the way, we can now add another couple of "Fs" to Kerry's "truth": Flip-Flopping, (teller of) Flagrant Fish stories, Flailing and Failing. He isn't called F'n for nothing. Perhaps his next tall tale will be that he was once a behind-the-scenes writer for F Troop.

41 posted on 08/14/2004 7:36:47 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

BTTT


42 posted on 08/14/2004 7:37:00 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Republic
Where are the people of New Jersey??????????????? I would be OUTRAGED if if lived there!

Their leading political "intellectual" is touring at the moment, as I understand it. :)


45 posted on 08/14/2004 7:45:35 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
When I first heard of McGreevey's press conference, my reaction was that it was very sad. I knew nothing about McGreevey--didn't even know who he was. But my opinion was that if there were no more to the story than that a homosexual governor had had a homosexual affair and admitted it, it should not be necessary for him to resign.

Similarly, if, when the Lawinsky affair was exposed, if Bill Clinton had admitted it to the public and pointed out that both parties were over 21 years old, the political damage to him would have been negligible.

It was the lying, purjury, attempts to fix a court case, intimidation of witnesses, and other evidence of corruption that outraged President Clinton's critics.

His defenders intentionally misunderstood the cause of this outrage and for purposes of propaganda attributed it to other, less than honorable causes, e.g. prudery.

Thus, to a considerable degree, they deflected the criticism of his behavior from its true cause to an absurd invention that they created to serve their purposes.

46 posted on 08/14/2004 7:55:00 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("Anybody but Bush!" ~Al Qaida/Vote Democrat!-bin Laden/Kerry for President~Zawahiri/Yeah! ~Streisand)
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To: avital2

Weighing on his conscience?

NOPE...it's not conscience, it's UBRIS.
Here's how it works:
1- You're born privileged and unloved. Mom and Daddy are too busy being socialites (and socialists)so..
2- They send you to special schools in Switzweland and you're still desperately unloved but believing that you are special. You got to find a way to think you are superior because inside you feel like s..t.
3- You try to get attention, so "Please. please, will someone look at me and love me." To do that you have to sway to the wind of those that surround you...you learn flip-flop is the way to go...talk a lot but say nothing.
4- You go to Yale another special school but rather than partying a la Bush, the "inadequate YOU" cannot let go. Still trying to get love by impressing others...grades are not even as good as "despised party boy" but you still think you are better.
5- No deferment and you're stuck going to Nam.
6- You don't fit. To lead men in battle, you must love them. Still inadequate, cannot bond, you peers and your superiors know you are phony. They reject you after 4 months. You couldn't wait to get out of there.
7- You get back at them, because they didn't love you either. Call them criminals.
8- Become special again, marry rich. Again and again. Fake love, Fake superiority.
9- Must show power, depth, and be ponderous as a politician.
Make up stories to impress. No substance. No achievements. You still know you are hollow.
10- Circumstances (Dean implosion) land you in the "Most powerful man in the world" race. Why don't they love me, please, love me. Flip-flop. Still Hollow.

Now the lies will catch up and they will all know..He is hollow. You must be terribly afraid and thrash in the night...It's not your conscience, it's your UBRIS!


47 posted on 08/14/2004 8:09:59 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

OH geeeeeeeeez. That is sad! Pathetic, and oh so sad.


48 posted on 08/14/2004 8:22:12 AM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: martin_fierro
Bears repeating.

I totally agree. But you know what the Dims will say: "but they were not on his boat".

(in fact I think that many of the people on his boat support him to collect their trifling 15 minutes of fame)

49 posted on 08/14/2004 8:25:43 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Savage Beast
It is horrific that McGreevey considered the threat of terrorism so unworthy, that he considered protecting his people so 'ho-hum', and that he so wanted his lover close by and also wanted him to have a good paying job, THAT HE WAS WILLING TO PUT HIS LOVER AND HIS PRIVATE NEEDS ABOVE THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN HIS STATE!!!!!!

I find it breathtakingly, shockingly traitorous (we are at war) and cannot believe that the people of New Jersy-dems, repubs, independents are not CRYING FOR THIS CREEP TO GET THE HECK OUT OF OFFICE---NOW!

50 posted on 08/14/2004 8:35:53 AM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: vet in action

This story may be safe...only because gerbils don't write books.


51 posted on 08/14/2004 8:46:57 AM PDT by KTpig
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"if snot-nosed American media grandees don't think there's a story there, maybe they ought to consider another line of work."




They have shown us that they think there is a story, a story they want to suppress


52 posted on 08/14/2004 8:51:26 AM PDT by KTpig
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To: KTpig
"This is infinitely, infinitely worse than having to be in CAMBODIA, f'cryin' out loud...!"
53 posted on 08/14/2004 8:54:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner; Constitution Day; Pokey78; Eurotwit; free me; Tolik; Slings and Arrows; Cicero; ...
Steyn

FMCDH(BITS)

54 posted on 08/14/2004 8:55:31 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The inestimable Mr. Stein hits another one right out of the park.

Thanks for the complete post.

L

55 posted on 08/14/2004 9:04:15 AM PDT by Lurker ( Rope, tree, liberal. Adult assembly required.)
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To: vet in action
The real question is how do stop the military from giving out dubious medals to traitors like Kerry?

Of course, at the time he was in Vietnam he was not a traitor. He was merely a less than adequate sailor and commander.

That said, the awarding of combat decorations has built-in safeguards spelled out by regulation. It seems in Kerry's case these safeguards either broke down or were circumvented by Kerry himself.

Two of his purple hearts and both his bronze and silver stars appear to have been "gamed" by Kerry, who had a working plan to get himself heroically decorated in a short time. False Situation Reports by Kerry himself seem to be involved in all of these as well as going outside of his chain-of-command in the case of his first purple heart.

The unit itself seemed rather lax in the factual vetting and eye witnesses required in the verification required for combat awards. It seems his superiors relied wholly on Kerry's self-serving reports - which is not the normal means for awarding decorations. It would appear to me much of the normal oversight was lacking at his unit level, which permitted Kerry to "cheat" his way to his citations.

Kerry did it very quickly as he was only in each unit for short periods of time so he was never caught at his lies and evasions. Apparently, he was clever enough and his short time at each assignment no doubt helped him to hit-and-run with these lies and evasions and nobody was the wiser. They were on to more important things (to them), such as fighting the war. Being a liar and a cheat is so much easier when nobody is paying attention.

56 posted on 08/14/2004 9:16:00 AM PDT by Gritty ("It's a special kind of person to get that many people to hate your guts in so little time-A Coulter)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What's scary is almost half of the people in the electorate believe the dems lies.

They swallow all this stuff........hook, line and sinker!


57 posted on 08/14/2004 9:20:56 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
While I have seen the number 250 bandied about as those swifties who think Kerry is unfit for President, I have never seen a number for them who support him. I have seen one to four but I'm never certain. Short of getting hold of his full military/ medical war records, the two brewing scandals which can be still verified with the available information are:
1) the souvenir Cambodian beret lie, and;
2) the "brother in arms" (Aldrich?/ Alcock?) who Kerry drags about with him to testify as a crew member to Kerry's sterling qualities turns out to have been seriously wounded and hospitalized the day before Kerry took over the swift boat that he served on and therefor can be shown to never have served under Kerry at all.
58 posted on 08/14/2004 9:26:45 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

bttt


60 posted on 08/14/2004 9:51:20 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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