[Cincinatus' Wife]

A passage from, Unfit for Command.

***On March 15, 2004, Admiral Hoffmann's telephone rang again. Once again, the caller was John Kerry. Kerry had clinched the Democratic nomination, and he knew that Hoffmann was organizing Swiftees to bring out the truth about him, his exaggerated military record, and his antiwar lies that had slandered his fellow veterans. Kerry made the admiral an offer: If you will back off and drop your efforts, I will ensure that my biography, Tour of Duty, which I know is unfair to you, will be changed to make it accurate in a revised edition. Here is my secretary's number - you can get me anytime.

The offer from the Democratic presidential candidate was an attempt to flatter Hoffmann, a warrior whose coin is not power or wealth, but honnor--an honor deeply impugned by Kerry's book. Hoffman, after all, is a wounded survivor of the amphibious assault at Wonson, Korea, where his minesweeper still lies below the frigid waters of Wonson Harbor. Kerry knew that winning Hoffmann over to his side would thwart the Swiftees' efforts to discredit him. Hoffmann told Kerry that he and the vast majority of his shipmates could never forgive him for his defamation of our Navy and other U.S. Armed Forces by his slanderous and undocumented accusations of unspeakable atrocities in Vietnam before the U.S. COngress in 1971, his leadership in the VVAW, and his association with the traitorous Jane Fonda and others of her ilk. Surprisingly, Kerry responded by simply saying that he "was expressing his conviction."

If Admiral Hoffmann were truly a butcher whose conduct "sickens" John Kerry to this day, an impression one could easily gain from reading Tour of Duty, then why did Kerry offer to change inaccuracies he knew were in Tour of Duty in exchange for Admiral Hoffmann and the Swiftees ceasing their activities? In emails on May 3, 2003, and on May 7, 2004,trying to dissuade Swiftees from joining Admiral Hoffmann, Wade Sanders referred to the group as "bitter drunks," something the sailors involved deeply resented. Moreover, Sanders referred to Joe Ponder, a seriously disabled Swiftee who cried when talking about Kerry's charges, as "a whining crybaby."*** - pages 68-69

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Atlanta Journal-Constitution - Give veterans a say on Kerry - Hear them out

[Jet Jaguar]

I gotta get that book...

[snopercod]

I hate to say it, but none of this matters. The RATS are going to vote for Kerry regardless. Facts mean nothing to them - hatred is in control of their minds.

[Grut]

No friend of Kerry here, but this business of 'making the government look bad equals treason' is lunatic fringe stuff.

[bootyist-monk]

[Beckwith]

If Kerry's "Band of Brothers" back up Kerry's memory of Christmas in Cambodia, then, they are in fact all liars.

Kerry is a liar.

The "Band of Brothers" are liars.

It's the Swift Boat Vets who are the straight-shooters here.

[blanknoone]

Kerry did not commit treason by opposing the war in Vietnam.

Kerry committed treason by perjuring himself in Senate testimony to give aid and comfort to the enemy. He also broke the law and committed treason by meeting with the North Vietnamese delegation at the Paris peace talks (assuming he isn't lying about that too).

The treason is in giving aid and comfort to the enemy. It was entirely possible to oppose the Vietnam war without committing treason. Millions did it. Kerry did not.

[claudwitz]

"John Kerry was in Vietnam," Kayser said. "He saw what was happening, and he made his comments based on what he saw."

John was a busy little beaver wasn't he? Lets see...3 purple hearts and not one hospitalization...anyone want to guess the odds of that occurring? Visits to Cambodia(on varying dates depending upon the day of the week) which were evidently "seared" then just recently "re-seared" into his memory. Nothing wrong with this man...feh.

[Jeff Gordon]

"Clearly what Captain O'Grady said today was not consistent with the campaign's position," Schmidt said.

I am speechless.

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Former Air Force pilot Scott O'Grady, a high-profile volunteer in President George W. Bush's campaign, accused Sen. John Kerry on Friday of committing "treason" in opposing the Vietnam War in the late 1960s and early '70s.

Scott O'Grady gets to where the rubber meets the road. As an officer in the US Navy, one serves at the pleasure of the President, i.e., he was never are totally out of the service just not on active duty. It would have been impolitic to recall Lt Doody and then try him.

[Guillermo]

"John Kerry was in Vietnam," Kayser said

No, you don't say?!?

[Salvation]

**Former Air Force pilot Scott O'Grady, a high-profile volunteer in President George W. Bush's campaign, accused Sen. John Kerry on Friday of committing "treason" in opposing the Vietnam War in the late 1960s and early '70s.**

I've always thought this. And the last person we want in the Presidency is a traitor. He would sell the heart and soul of America for a fast buck.

[JasonC]

"he made his comments based on what he saw"

OK liar, now put up. Kerry accused US servicemen of committing war crimes in Vietnam. If he supposedly did so based on what he actually saw, then he can name times dates and places, units and perhaps persons, he saw doing specific illegal things. What are they?

[sweetliberty]

"This is a despicable and obscene comment to call John Kerry a traitor and accuse him of treason,"

Why?

"The news conference was evidence of the high-stakes competition between Bush and Kerry for the votes of America's military veterans"

Oh, get serious. I don't think the president is all that concerned about the 10 veteran votes he might lose to Kerry.

This story just keeps getting better. Any mention of it yet in the elite media, other than to condemn "Unfit for Command?"

[VOA]

Former Air Force pilot Scott O'Grady, a high-profile volunteer in President
George W. Bush's campaign, accused Sen. John Kerry on Friday of committing "treason"
in opposing the Vietnam War in the late 1960s and early '70s.

I'd term it "moral treason" for Kerry SLANDERING and VILLIFYING the extended
"Band of Brothers"...and causing folks like myself (too young for Vietnam) to have
serious doubts about ever pursuing a military career.

The damage by Kerry AFTER he got back stateside is incalculable.

[Dante3]

BUMP

[ladyinred]

"This is a despicable and obscene comment to call John Kerry a traitor and accuse him of treason," said Tom Kayser, a St. Paul lawyer and retired lieutenant colonel in the Air Force Reserve who is supporting Kerry.

ROTFL! These liberals ought to know the meaning of OBSCENE shouldn't they? Maybe aiding and abetting the enemy qualifies more!

[Jorge]

"John Kerry was in Vietnam," Kayser said. "He saw what was happening, and he made his comments based on what he saw."

Guess that's why he's backed down when he's been pressed to support his previous comments about what he claimed to have seen. Kerry is a liar and a fraud.