Yeah, having these yahoos stir up a mob is the way to go. 
JMO, I guess the saying discretion is the better part of valor, is lost on you.
Posted on 08/13/2004 3:12:48 PM PDT by seastay
Summary of todays meeting on live internet feed right now
Come Grill Asa In Temecula! Friday August 13 Come and join John and Ken at a town meeting hosted by Congressman Darrell Issa featuring Asa Hutchinson, Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security on Friday, August 13. There will be discussions focusing on immigration enforcement efforts. The meeting will take place at 10:30 a.m., PT in the all-purpose room of Margarita Middle School in Temecula.
Congressman Issa strongly supports operations conducted by the Border Patrol Mobile Patrol Group, which during the first half of June resulted in 422 apprehensions of illegal aliens by twelve Border Patrol Agents. Congressman Issa and Under Secretary Hutchinson will discuss issues surrounding immigration enforcement and answer questions from the audience. For more info, click here.
Location: 30600 Margarita Road Temecula, CA 92591
http://www.kfi640.com/prog/eventcalendar.html
Dane, you're wrong on this one.
There are three people who have made it their life's work on this forum to trash anyone calling for strict adherence to the law, when it comes to immigraton. Dane is one of them.
I agree with your comments. I find it hard not to respond to Dane because others don't know he's spent years spewing disinformation on this topic.
It is a waste of time as far as Dane goes, but there are others who read these threads.
Thanks for the comments.
Oh course I'm right, I had you pegged from the get go. What I'm trying to get through to you is that you are only making things worse by this dodge and weave effort. You are making Bush a weaker candidate by not pressuring him to face his mess, and you are making FReepers angry at the supposed "Bushbots" who are trying to make them deny what they see on their streets every day as not an issue.
Excuse my use of "vilify." My dictionary says it means "to treat as of no importance."
Not true, it says To make vicious and defamatory statements about.http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vilify No one did that, now stop playing games.
That's OK ... I don't feel like the victim here at all.
'Bout time, because you are not. Stop acting like it.
Can't tell you how helpful it would've been to have other freepers there.
In case you have failed to realize in reading the threads on immigration, we would have been yelling at that dishonest fool Asa Hutchinson as loudly as anyone there.
I've been corresponding with a reporter who interviewed me yesterday. She agrees that it made a huge difference being there and seeing it for ourselves.
Wonderful, perhaps you can dispense with these inuendos and start explaining what you mean by "different" and "skewing". You have had plenty of opportunities and have failed every time. Otherwise I think anyone reading this should dismiss you out of hand as being nothing more than someone trying to stop the Californian's righteous outrage at the immigration disaster simply to score partisan points. Partisanship is great as long as it is honest.
Thanks... you always give me a lot to think about.
It would have been interesting to experience the meeting
through your eyes and ears.
The way I saw it, there was one man in that whole room
of a thousand voices, who has the power to actually move
the immigration quagmire forward.
Unfortunately Jon Kobylt thought it was him.
God help us if GW gets fired.
IMO, with your and your comrades childish and hubristic rhetoric, you do that job, with no help from me.
IMO, with your and your comrades childish and hubristic rhetoric, you do that job, with no help from me.
Job of what? The silencing-ourselves-job? That doesn't even make sense.
Stop trying to use my accusations about you against me, you don't do it right and just come out looking....wait what am I doing? Never mind. You're right I am, keep up the good work.
Yup, I'll do you one better. Given that Bush was against 187 running for Gov of Texas, given he proposed the defacto amnesty in Jan, given he had the might of the Federal government step in and prevent border agents from doing their jobs just a few weeks ago.....I think the more telling way to phrase it is; Unfortunately Jon Kobylt is the only person who has the power to actually move the immigration quagmire forward.
God help us if GW gets fired.
Yup, but if millions of Republicans stay home in November, the campaign has no one to blame but themselves. If they hadn't long ago sold their souls to Cheap Labor special interests, the solutions to this outrage would be direct, fast, and rather simple-and while the media cried, he would gain millions of voters and a ton of respect. We should be praying to God not that John Kobylt shuts up, we should be praying that Bush hears us and compromises with us like a good politician does, and we should also be praying to God that one of these Al Qaeda doesn't dress up like a Mexican, waltz over the border and release a WMD. You can bet your bottom dollar Bush gets fired then.
That meeting was an opportunity squandered IMO.
An important fact seems to have been lost in
the clamour.
I agree with the righteous outrage...I live in Chula Vista!!!
Don't get me started on the schools and social leeching.
I wanted to hear, straight from the horse's mouth, what they had to say.
Asa Hutchinson was the only man in that room
with any practical power.
If anyone bothered to listen, they would have realized
what actually makes him tick. He can obviously be reasoned with...he was influenced by Baca to stop the
sweeps. Why?
He can't stomach hatred toward illegals.
Every attempt of his to interject an ounce of humanity
was met with contempt.
Change the rhetoric from hatred to compassion for
their ultimate best interest (which is never welfare)
and there might, just might be a constructive dialog
with this man.
Never mind the reasons why we shouldn't HAVE to
convince him that only God (not the US taxpayer) is all things to all people.
Fact is, we do.
How arrogant to think the US is the only solution for
illegal immigrants. Shame on Baca, and shame on
Hutchinson for not being firm.
But let's not give up on him just yet.
We can't afford to antagonize him.
It obviously doesn't work.
All he had to say was we are going to reinstitute the sweeps. Instead he said that the sweeps are unfairly terrorizing good workers. That's all you needed to hear.
Asa Hutchinson was the only man in that room with any practical power.
Apparently that's a problem, no?
If anyone bothered to listen, they would have realized what actually makes him tick. He can obviously be reasoned with...he was influenced by Baca to stop the sweeps. Why?
We're reasoning doodlelady, we're reasoning with him the only way he listens to
He can't stomach hatred toward illegals.
Wrong, he's a Cheap Labor Republican
Every attempt of his to interject an ounce of humanity was met with contempt.
Because Californians have seen the Cheap Labor agenda advanced under the cloak of fighting "racism" for far too long. We're simply too wise to see another politician play that game. At least the Dems are more obvious when they call us racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic pigs.
We can't afford to antagonize him. It obviously doesn't work.
The man is clearly lobbied by special interests and taking orders from other who do also, we aren't talking about an honest disagreement here, wake up. This is a struggle between different interest groups. Outrage and voter turnout are our only weapons against a guy you admit is the only one in that room with any power. That's called tyranny.
Yeah, having these yahoos stir up a mob is the way to go.
JMO, I guess the saying discretion is the better part of valor, is lost on you.
Why didn't you come to the meeting?
Had to work. Issa scheduling it in the middle of a Friday was really inconveniencing of him. I'm glad so many made it down there and gave them an earful though.
That's exactly how John looked
for his stage schtick, sans blowhorn.
I just clicked on his website and have to
agree with you that Baca's name (NOT) on their list
is a glaring omission.
It's split into multiple parts. Please pass the word!
How can this be fair, us hearing the actual audio?
;-)
Thanks. Now duck!
Town Hall Meetings Part 1 (Windows Media Audio - 7.2MB file size)
Town Hall Meetings Part 2 (Windows Media Audio - 7.7MB file size)
Quick! Grab your can of spin repellent!
...maximum strength!
I called Issa's office today to see how
he felt about the meeting, and they said
he actually felt it ended more peacefully
than he expected.
He said it was "democracy in action!"
That's for sure.
Oh, I also asked if Asa can sit down yet,
from the new one he got ripped,
and offered to send him a plastic donut.
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