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CHARLEY BECOMES A (CATEGORY 4 Now!!) HURRICANE (18 ft. storm surge)
NHC ^ | 08-13-2004 | Forecaster Lawrence

Posted on 08/13/2004 10:08:09 AM PDT by Jeff400000

000 WTNT33 KNHC 131655 TCPAT3 BULLETIN HURRICANE CHARLEY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004

...CHARLEY STRENGTHENS AS IT HEADS TOWARD FLORIDA WEST COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE DRY TORTUGAS TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...AND FOR THE FLORIDA WEST COAST FROM EAST CAPE SABLE NORTHWARD TO THE STEINHATCHEE RIVER. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE FLORIDA AND GEORGIA COASTS WERE RECENTLY EXTENDED SOUTHWARD TO JUPITER INLET FLORIDA AND ARE NOW IN EFFECT FROM THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER SOUTH CAROLINA TO JUPITER INLET. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO OCEAN REEF...AND ALONG THE SOUTH FLORIDA MAINLAND FROM OCEAN REEF TO EAST CAPE SABLE...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY AND LAKE OKEECHOBEE.

A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FLAGLER BEACH FLORIDA NORTHWARD TO THE SAVANNAH RIVER NEAR THE GEORGIA/SOUTH CAROLINA BORDER.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST FROM OCEAN REEF NORTHWARD TO SOUTH OF COCOA BEACH AND FROM THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER NORTHWARD TO OREGON INLET NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING PAMLICO SOUND.

AT 1 PM EDT...1700Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 25.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 82.5 WEST OR ABOUT 70 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF FORT MYERS FLORIDA.

CHARLEY IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TODAY WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE SHOULD REACH THE COAST IN THE VICINITY OF CHARLOTTE HARBOR LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

RECENT REPORTS FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 125 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS...CATEGORY THREE ON THE SAFFIR/SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. THESE STRONGEST WINDS ARE CONFINED TO A SMALL AREA WITHIN A FEW MILES FROM CHARLEYS CENTER.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 964 MB...28.46 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS WILL BE SUBSIDING LATER TODAY. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 13 FEET IS EXPECTED NEAR AND SOUTH OF THE WHERE THE CENTER CROSSES THE FLORIDA WEST COAST. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 4 TO 7 FEET ALONG AND NEAR THE GEORGIA COAST IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH LESSER FLOODING TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE LIKELY ALONG CHARLEYS PATH ACROSS THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL FLORIDA INCLUDING THE FLORIDA KEYS TODAY.

REPEATING THE 1 PM EDT POSITION...25.7 N... 82.5 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...125 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 964 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 3 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 PM EDT.

FORECASTER LAWRENCE


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush43; charley; charlie; elections; fl; florida; hugelosses; hurricane; hurricanecharley; hurricanecharlie; jeb; jebbush; politics; weather
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
WRAL TV weather unfortunately is not as good as WPTF weather man Joe Bustardi

Joe Bastardi is a great weatherman! He does a lot of research on past weather systems - what's the same and what's different. That's given him a base of information to work from that's different from many meteorologists, and consequently his forcasts are often somewhat different. He was very concerned that Charley would strengthen rapidly right before landfall.

2,821 posted on 08/14/2004 10:48:51 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: topher
Good news about Charley from:

National Weather Service meteorologist Ron Humble states:

It was moving north-northeast at 28 mph, a speed it would likely maintain through the day on its way to Virginia, Humble said.

[This is via the AP]

The longer the storm is directly over land, the quicker its loses its energy. Moving rapidly will lessen the amount of time over any one area. To me, this sounds like good news -- get Charley out of here, and let it start dying over land...

Hurricanes/Tropical Storms rapidly diminish over land since they lose their source of energy -- warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico or the Atlantic Ocean.

Yesterday, it lost alot of its punch over Florida before gettting back in the Atlantic to be able to regain some strength.

Let us hope that by 8pm tonight the winds will be no more than 30+ MPH.

2,822 posted on 08/14/2004 10:52:06 AM PDT by topher
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To: nunya bidness; MinuteGal
Just got power back on here, I'm one of the lucky ones.

Man, what a freaking mess. We lost a bunch of trees including a giant oak that was split right down the middle. My antenna is gone but pretty lucky on the property damage all in all.

Nunya call me if you need to.

2,823 posted on 08/14/2004 10:53:39 AM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Howlin
"Are you at Pawley's?"

No, I'm in Florence. I've got relatives on Pawley's Island, and all up and down the coast between Little River and Georgetown.

We're in the clear in SC now. Looks like it's going to pass between Wilmington and Whiteville.
2,824 posted on 08/14/2004 10:55:11 AM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: AAABEST

Good news.


2,825 posted on 08/14/2004 10:57:08 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: wimpycat

I just talked to my niece down there; this is her first 'hurricane.' She won't be staying again......LOL.

She said they are getting about 60 MPH winds with guts higher; she already lost one tree.

And, of course, they have no power.


2,826 posted on 08/14/2004 11:02:27 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: AAABEST

Glad to hear you are okay - but sorry for the mess and the loss of lives. The nation should rally to help Florida....as we always do when neighbors suffer. America's compassion will flow to Floridians in need. Unfortunately - some of the most hateful, vile, "discussions" about America - and particularly Florida - "deserving" this act of God - will also flow.


2,827 posted on 08/14/2004 11:07:05 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Howlin
60 MPH winds do major damage - because they are sustained. If we get that here, Howlin - bad news. It looks like it is staying a bit east of Raleigh right now....(sad to say for those down East)........I just want it to fly away as fast as it can go!

May go out and tour around a bit - check on pond levels near me. Some neighbors who back up to the pond have left. Don't blame them. May wish I had.....WRAL website talking about tree damage as what we can expect - that is NOT what I wanted to read.

2,828 posted on 08/14/2004 11:09:42 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Dog Gone; JulieRNR21; Joe Brower

I am OK; I just now posted to you on this thread: "Official: Charley's Death Toll To Climb." Thanks for thinking of me! Hope every FL FR poster is OK, too.


2,829 posted on 08/14/2004 11:11:52 AM PDT by summer
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To: agrace

Well I'm from Yonkers NY but I have lived in Drums for the last 10 years. Hazleton is the same I understand as it was 30 years ago. In the Valley Area (Conyngham) there has been an influx of Homes being built and they are grand. I say thank Bush for that!


2,830 posted on 08/14/2004 11:34:52 AM PDT by angcat (Medicate me please!)
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To: SlickWillard
I know quite a few people who weren't born to privilege, and lived in mobile homes while trying to make something of themselves and work their way up. Did it myself.

There were also good, decent people who had fallen on temporary bad times - which can happen to any one of us - and were there until they got back on their feet, which they did.

This was a classic example of thread drift. Back to Charley...
2,831 posted on 08/14/2004 11:36:04 AM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: topher
Important Business might be out of operation in Fort Myers:

May need to contact Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton urgently to get this business back to work [killing babies] if damaged.

Business is:


Ft Myers Women's Health Ctr
Address: 3900 Broadway # C, Fort Myers, FL 33901
Phone: (941) 936-4494
Toll Free: (800) 326-0626
Email: ftmyers@abortion-clinics.com

Hours of Operation:

Open 24 Hours
Open 7 days a week
Open Sat and Sun
Open Saturday
Open Sunday
Open 365 Days
Open Late

Note: if this building was destroyed (with no loss of life), I think Heaven was on target for denying these people the ability to take the lives of innocent babies -- at least for a few days.

Since this is very close to ground zero, I am very curious if this place survived or not.

And I assure you that Planned Parenthood and NARAL will use your tax dollars to send emergency condoms and other supplies to this location ASAP if they are aware of it.

Can someone monitor this?

This is a 24x7, 365 day a year mill to kill babies...

Turning some sarcaism off!

2,832 posted on 08/14/2004 11:41:16 AM PDT by topher
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To: Kay Ludlow; summer
Yes he is a great weatherman! He was right on Alex when everyone else was so wrong. He was right on Charley - before it even developed into a Hurricane! I would love to know where he thinks things stand today on Charley.....looking like we may indeed be fortunate. The rains are bad - the flooding is going to be bad - but if the winds will just stay low - we will be okay.

Drove around - water is not good but our little pond has so far not overflowed yet into the homes nearby or the road - good sign.

Summer - am so glad to hear you are okay! God bless and keep all those in Florida who did suffer damage and God bless Governor and President Bush. I usually frown on government officials going around after a disaster - (cause we have to deal with the abnoxious Easley up here) - but I know the Bush brothers have true compassion in their hearts and would not be surprised to see them rolling up sleeves and helping with the work.

2,833 posted on 08/14/2004 12:09:39 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Worrying about those trees is going to make you sick. Where's your chain saw? :')


2,834 posted on 08/14/2004 12:12:42 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: A.A. Cunningham; marshmallow; LadyPilgrim; eastsider; Convert from ECUSA; Notwithstanding; ...
Ping for the life of the itty bitty babies

See Post #2832 about 24x7 (24 hours a day, 7 days a week), 365 days a year -- open Christmas, New Year, Easter -- to kill babies in the Hurricane Death Zone.

With people being concerned about those who might have died from this Hurricane, people should be equally concerned about the tragic loss of life each day due to abortion (and the pain inflicted on the women).

2,835 posted on 08/14/2004 12:17:45 PM PDT by topher
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To: CindyDawg

LOL - Chain saw in the garage. But it doesn't do a lot for a split house.....OK - will try not to worry.


2,836 posted on 08/14/2004 12:23:35 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I'm not really as worried about wind as I am the conbination of it with the rain and flooding.

We have had so much rain this year............and in the past 3 weeks it has been utterly ridiculous. The ground is totally saturated..that's going to cause more problems than anything.

I can imagine the numbers of uprooted trees with even just minimal tropical storm winds, which is really all we are supposed to be getting.


2,837 posted on 08/14/2004 12:27:57 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: Peach; Brytani; mystery-ak; Bahbah; All
Thanks so much for all your thoughts and prayers. My grandma, my pets and I made it through the storm just fine. And my house only sustained minor damage to the roof. My power's out, of course, and I don't expect it to be on for several days at a minimum, and possibly longer. I am posting this from my office over in Lakeland, where we actually have power and only minimal damage in town.

As far as I can tell, the storm center came through southern Polk County somewhere between the cities of Bartow and Lake Wales. There were two good things about it - it seems that the core of really damaging wind was very compact, and the storm moved through the area very fast. When I left my house around 5:30 yesterday, the winds were going about 15-20 mph or so, and by the time I arrived at my grandma's 20 minutes later they were already up to the 40-50 mph range (best guess). The power went out at her place about 6:15 or so when a transformer blew, and the really wild winds began about 7:00 PM But by 9:00 or so, it was pretty much all over. And thank God for that, because even in that short period of time it laid a lot of damage on this area. I don't even want to imagine what would have happened if it had lingered.

Lakeland may be the only part of Polk County that has electrical power. It's out just about everywhere else I've been, traffic signals are down, and a drive which normally takes me 45 minutes or so took an hour and a half. The tree damage is just indescibable. We have a lot of very old oaks throughout the area, and lots of them have just been devastated, uprooted and/or blown to pieces. And the pieces are laying in the roads, on the power lines, on homes and cars.

Even with all that, the damage this area took is nothing compared to what happened down in Charlotte County, where Punta Gorda is located. It will take years for that area to recover from Charley. The people down there are the ones who really need our support and our prayers. But the good news is that the help is pouring in - I've seen steady streams of electrical workers, tree surgeons and emergency response personnel from all over the state, and from all over the country. I am so proud to be an American, part of the greatest, most caring and most giving nation the world has ever seen.

I've lived in Florida for 31 years, and watched a series of minor hurricanes barely graze my part of the state, watched major storms turn away at the last moment, and watched Andrew rip into South Florida in '92. But until now I had never lived through a major storm making a direct hit on where I live. And if I never have to live through it again it will be too soon. I won't be posting too much in the coming days as I clean up and wait for the lights to come back on, but please do know that I deeply appreciate all your thoughts and prayers. Freepers are the greatest!

Steve

2,838 posted on 08/14/2004 12:29:27 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ( John F'in Kerry - the gift that keeps on giving to the Bush campaign.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Hang in there:') It's almost over.


2,839 posted on 08/14/2004 12:33:12 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CFC__VRWC

I'm so glad you and your grandmother are okay, Steve. Thanks for checking in with us and letting us know; it's been a worrying time for everyone.

It is always so amazing to see people help the way they do..it really makes us realize how lucky we are to live in America.


2,840 posted on 08/14/2004 12:39:11 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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