Posted on 08/13/2004 7:32:38 AM PDT by saquin
NAJAF, Iraq (AFP) - Shiite Muslim rebel leader Moqtada Sadr issued a list of conditions for an end to more than a week of deadly clashes between his militia and US troops and Iraqi forces, a spokesmen said.
The conditions were spelled out at a news conference at a hotel in the besieged holy city of Najaf by Sheikh Ali Sumeisim.
If all multinational forces, Iraqi police and soldiers leave Najaf and the Marjayia, or religious authority, agrees to take responsibility for the city, "the Mehdi Army would pull out from Najaf," Sumeisim said.
All basic services must be restored, Sadr's Mehdi Army recognised as an ideological movement and its members allowed to carry weapons for self-defence, Sumeisim continued.
Those jailed for supporting the resistance, all imprisoned clerics and women must also be released from prison, the spokesman added.
Force is being applied daily with lethal precision. Chill out.
I thought the only condition was the very last drop of his blood.
That's why you can't negotiate with terrorists. They just cant keep their word.
And accuracy requires killing Sadr and every other terrorist.
The end of fighting should only coincide with his body hanging from the nearest pole. If the US gives in to him then I believe the generals should have to resign and even we must question the leadership at the very top.
“He who fights and runs away, lives to fight ANOTHER day!”
Two words: Tora-Bora and Falujah. If the government of Iraq does not have the political will to eliminate Al Sader, but instead once again allows him and his band of merry men to escape, retreat, receive immunity, or in anyway get away because President Bush wants to fight a P.C. engagement and will not allow the Marines to do what needs to be done in order to deal with this petty thug once and for all (i.e. KILL HIM and his army) then we have lost, this war is over and the troops should come home. We should not be fighting for a people unwilling to fight for themselves, or do what is necessary in order to protect their very existence.
If the Iraqis’ do not possess the political will to crush this threat to their very survival as a nation, then what is happening in Najaf will be repeated over and over again until the Islamic fascists take down the government and replace it with an Islamic fascist state.
This is a watershed event, it is make or break time for President Bush and Iraq!
If he fails to deal with this now, then in all likely hood President Bush is going to lose the election because we cannot win IF we are forced to fight a P.C. war. It is impossible because history has consistently shown that people and nations that fight “sensitive” P.C. wars ALWAYS lose them.
This mosque is not a “holy place” it is a fortress, stocked with weapons and filled with thugs and killers who are bent on killing Americans and destroying the Iraqi government and enslaving the people under Islamic masters and Islamic law. The only way to deal with the situation is to go in and kill or capture them all, not negotiate! The bad guys have us over a P.C. barrel, they KNOW that we are not willing to go in and get them so they have a safe haven and sanctuary and unless we have some way of killing them without touching their “sacred” “holy place” (sarcasm off) then they wait us out, restock, re-supply their “holy place” of death and fight on until they win.
The more time that goes buy in this stalemate the stronger they become because of outside pressure from our supposed “allies” = “Don’t hurt those poor mean-nasty Islamic terrorists, it is against “international law” and the so-called “Arab street,” you know, those “wonderful” Islamic multitudes who want to destroy our civilization, convert us to Islam, enslave us or saw off our heads. Flaujah is the ultimate example; if we let them off the hook, they will only become stronger and stronger until they win.
I believe with all my heart that what is happening right now in Iraq is a watershed, make or break event and what President Bush does there will determine the outcome of the election. If he does not act, decisively, no matter what the polls, our so-called “allies” and political pundents say, then the masses will fall under the sway of Kerrys’ more sensitive, “get us out of Iraq now” policy and he will win the election.
I am not being a pessimist but a realist. Americans want us to fight this thing to win it. If, the president, because of political correctness is not willing to do what needs to be done, i.e. KILL THEM, then he will lose and it is time to pick up our marbles, come home, fortify our own little “island America” and wait for the Islamic hordes to inevitably attack us from within and from without (something they are actively preparing to do). The mosques here in the USA are, like the mosque in Najaf also serving as fortresses and safe-havens where Islamic terrorists and insurgents are filling their people with hatred and training with impunity. If Kerry is elected, our government will not enter these “holy places” because it is “insensitive” to do so.
It is now up to President Bush and the decision he makes regarding Al Sader and the insurgents. This decision will determine the outcome of the war in Iraq and the election at home and all of the Republican conventions, political slogans, balloons in the world will not matter, only the flickering TV images of Al Saddar defiantly thumbing his nose at America, killing our men and continuing to overthrow the government in Iraq will!
I, and millions of others are praying that the President will do what is right, not what is “politically correct” or convenient.
Surrender must be covered somewhere in the Koran. Just refer to the proper verse & execute it. Who in the ME could ever object to the application of the word of the Koran? This might mean sharpening some knives.
We need to go after them with all our might and blow them right out of the 'water.' Arabs admire strength and if we keep backing down, it's going to be our downfall. Even the Irawis will lose faith in us. KILL THE BA..ARDS!
He's not in charge there. Alawi is. GWB can't order the president of Iraq to agree to anything any more. We can send our envoy from our Embassy there to make our position clear, but beyond that, Iraq is SOVEREIGN.
The demonstrations against Iraqi government and americans in the south is not what you hear on the MSM. They are mad because the vermin who constantly harrass them have not been eliminated.
Thanks for supplying the voice of sane reality.
Sader is following a strategy taught in the Koran and has worked for them since Mohammed.
Nothing. Patterns like this tend to repeat.
Then we need to inform Allawi that if our military is not allowed to do its job, then we have no purpose there anymore and will begin pulling out. He can handle Sadr on his own. The choice is his.
Precisely.
Sovereign means that the Iraqi government decides the policy, not American generals. Our role should be to support THEIR policy.
We lost in Vietnam because we made it OUR war when it should have been us helping the South Vietnamese fight THEIR war. By making it OUR war we drained the South Vietnamese government of all nationalist legitimacy and the ARVN of self-reliance.
"This idiot is cornered in a half square mile area, thousands of his thugs have been killed, injured, or captured in the last ten days, and he is making conditions as if he just achieved his conquest of all of Iraq."
This guy fails the intelligence test, but he certainly has balls. Too bad he's blind to facts. Oh well, bring on the next soon-to-be martyr.
I thought he offered to fight to the death. I am disappointed we didn't take him up on his offer.
Hopefully 'fragging' becomes popular again with the troops when that happens.
"Sader is following a strategy taught in the Koran and has worked for them since Mohammed."
Sadr is nothing but a cult leader of jailbirds and thugs twisting the Koran and Islam to his liking.
I completely agree with your analysis. If Sadr is not unequivocally defeated, Allawi's attempts for a stable government will likewise be defeated. Additionally the U.S. mission in Iraq will be defeated, and, I am afraid, Kerry will be our next president.
A very discouraged Bush supporter.
We failed in Vietnam because we didn't take the fight to the enemy nation.
A truce doesn't win a war, victory does.
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