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Kerry: I Wouldn't Respond to Nuclear Attack
Newsmax ^ | 8/13/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 08/13/2004 7:04:03 AM PDT by truthandlife

John Kerry told Democrats gathered in Boston two weeks ago that he defended his country as a young soldier in Vietnam and he would defend it again as president.

But as Michael Dukakis' Lieutenant Governor, Kerry authored an executive order that said the state of Massachussetts would refuse to take part in any civil defense efforts in response to a nuclear attack on America.

The presidential candidate was an ardent proponent of the nuclear freeze at the time, and viewed Cold War civil defense preparations as an attempt to delude the American people into thinking a nuclear exchange was survivable.

Lt. Gov. Kerry's executive order on behalf of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts read in part:

"Whereas the existing and potential strength of nuclear weapons is such that nuclear war can neither be won nor survived, it can only be prevented; and Whereas the only effective defense against the horrors of nuclear weapons lies in their elimination and in the prevention of nuclear war or attacks, [the Commonwealth of Massachusetts] shall seek to ensure the safety of its citizens by pursuit of policies reflecting a serious commitment to prevention of nuclear war."

"Such policies," the Kerry directive continued, "shall include education of citizens concerning the real nature of nuclear war and efforts to influence national policy towards negotiation of an end to the nuclear-arms race."

The Kerry order stated emphatically, however: "No funds shall be expended by the Commonwealth for crisis relocation planning for nuclear war."

Monica Conyngham, Lt. Gov. Kerry's spokeswoman at the time, defended the controversial document, telling reporters, ''We believe that (evacuation) plans are absolutely futile and that there are no safehavens from nuclear war.''

Gov. Dukakis signed Kerry's "no nuclear defense" executive order into law on June 28, 1984.


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To: AndrewC
And I am saying that the title was written by a conservative "ally", that it is a lie, and that FreeRepublic has much more of a vested interest is seeing our friends not lie than in seeing the New York Times not lie.

When your neighbor's kid tells a fib, you make a note of it and go on. When your own kid fibs, you stop the day and make an issue of it.

61 posted on 08/13/2004 8:07:49 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: truthandlife

62 posted on 08/13/2004 8:08:40 AM PDT by Area Freeper (PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!)
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To: truthandlife

Credit:http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/

63 posted on 08/13/2004 8:10:54 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: AndrewC
An accurate headline might be...

Kerry in Massachusetts: No Defense Possible Against Nuclear Attack

"No Response" is quite a different subject entirely, and is the substance of the whopper.

64 posted on 08/13/2004 8:10:55 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: AndrewC

And you may be relieved to know that I'm dropping this now.


65 posted on 08/13/2004 8:11:57 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: truthandlife
THANKS.

I sent this to my email list with a fierce commentary and highlighting. Maybe I'll post below . . .

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Dear Ones,

In this era wherein Al Qaeda likely has 20-48 nuckear weapons already prepositioned in the USA . . . with China likely having them in Panama and possibly Nicuragua and/or even Mexico . . . Who knows what's in Cuba now . . .

The following DOCUMENTED SKERRY policy statements on nuclear war are more than a little sobering. He insists he would NOT RESPOND to a nuclear attack. It's even worse lunacy that he'd declare so ahead of time! Kinda fits that he's such a bedmate of French appeasement monkeys! --LUB,

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Kerry: I Wouldn't Respond to Nuclear Attack Newsmax ^ | 8/13/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 08/13/2004 8:04:03 AM MDT by truthandlife

John Kerry told Democrats gathered in Boston two weeks ago that he defended his country as a young soldier in Vietnam and he would defend it again as president.

[Rahhhhht. Defending it for ~4 months in country, a year well off shore and then aiding and abetting the enemy for much longer afterwards is REALLLLLL comforting SKERRY!]

But as Michael Dukakis' Lieutenant Governor, Kerry authored an executive order that said the state of Massachussetts would refuse to take part in any civil defense efforts in response to a nuclear attack on America.

The presidential candidate was an ardent proponent of the nuclear freeze at the time, and viewed Cold War civil defense preparations as an attempt to delude the American people into thinking a nuclear exchange was survivable.

[Note: The Soviets have construed, with sound reason, that most nuclear wars are likely to be survivable by at least sufficient proportions of the population to carry on. This is THEIR CURRENT thinking and planning as is it CERTAINLY the thinking and planning of the Chinese--who have considerably more people to survive with.]

Lt. Gov. Kerry's executive order on behalf of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts read in part:

"Whereas the existing and potential strength of nuclear weapons is such that nuclear war can neither be won nor survived [far too many factors to make such an all inclusive statement], it can only be prevented; and Whereas the only effective defense against the horrors of nuclear weapons lies in their elimination and in the prevention of nuclear war or attacks, [the Commonwealth of Massachusetts] shall seek to ensure the safety of its citizens by pursuit of policies reflecting a serious commitment to prevention of nuclear war."

"Such policies," the Kerry directive continued, "shall include education of citizens concerning the real nature of nuclear war and efforts to influence national policy towards negotiation of an end to the nuclear-arms race."

The Kerry order stated emphatically, however: "No funds shall be expended by the Commonwealth for crisis relocation planning for nuclear war."

Monica Conyngham, Lt. Gov. Kerry's spokeswoman at the time, defended the controversial document, telling reporters, ''We believe that (evacuation) plans are absolutely futile and that there are no safehavens from nuclear war.''

Gov. Dukakis signed Kerry's "no nuclear defense" executive order into law on June 28, 1984.

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This is also in keeping with SKERRY'S declared intentions of surrendering authority over our military to the UN [He'd likely argue in certain contexts but I think his track record and philosophical bent is to do so wholesale ASAP] as well as his clear intentions to energetically support the world government.

66 posted on 08/13/2004 8:15:12 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: johnny7
Skerry wants to be sensitive to war and also stop over weight people so his new slogan should be:

" Ban the Bombe "
67 posted on 08/13/2004 8:15:38 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Liberals are like catfish ( all mouth and no brains )(bottom feeders))
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To: Babsig

Perhaps we'd need to duct tape a certain someone to the first nuke sent

a la

Dr Strangelove?


68 posted on 08/13/2004 8:16:36 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
What's also interesting, but unmentioned, is that this is precisely opposite Kerry's current policy against terrorism.

Now his plans focus on the hypothetical aftermath (fire crews, etc), not the pre-emption or prevention of attack.

As with his recent Iraq war votes, Kerry is 180 degrees out of phase with where he rationally and politically ought to be.

A state gov't is responsible for civil defense, not geopolitical strategy. A President should be primarily responsible for deterrence and prevention and military strategy, and not for the logistics of evacuation and cleanup.

69 posted on 08/13/2004 8:17:26 AM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: truthandlife

NewsMax sinks to another low. We can defeat Kerry on the facts without resorting to deceiptful stories and juvenile yellow journalism.


70 posted on 08/13/2004 8:19:25 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: prophetic

RIGHT ON!

I suppose he'd love to trot out something like the following, perhaps in French, first . . .

"I, SKERRY, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE WORLD GOVERNMENT and all the mindless mass tyranny it's building toward.
--One world;
--One lowest common denominator of existence;
--One empty religion and one mindless 'all is one' philosophy morphing into a worse satan worshipping cult;
--One long string of death camps;
--One inferior country after another seeded with all the death we can send their way;
--One mindless environmentalism;
. . .
and all the other mindlessness, evil an idiocy for which it stands . . .
--under satan, indivisable with no justice and much fewer all.


71 posted on 08/13/2004 8:24:23 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: MP5

crap his pants and cry?

Perhaps.

Not sure he has enough character to cry.

He might just as likely whimper endlessly in a dark corner under a desk somewhere.


72 posted on 08/13/2004 8:25:33 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
"The headline and the article don't add up."

Agreed.
73 posted on 08/13/2004 8:25:50 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: Taliesan

I think the drift of the article and SKERRY'S mindset represented therein is very in keeping--very in logical keeping with the title.

It's certainly in keeping with his mindless appeasement/philosophical garbage demonstrated over his adult life and in his voting record.


74 posted on 08/13/2004 8:28:26 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: coconutt2000

SUPER SOBERING.


75 posted on 08/13/2004 8:30:57 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
"But we do know that the only time he had responsibility for formulating a plan to respond to a nuclear strike, he said preparing a defense would only encourage an attack."

No, what he said was that he's not going to direct funds to tell people to "go to location [X]" in the event of a nuclear war because, in his view, all those people would be dead rather quickly anyway. The EO never speaks to military responses against the nuclear attacker - merely to civilian preparations. I don't agree with the policy, but the article's headline sensationalizes it with such ambiguity that it makes my head hurt. As another poster said earlier, this is exactly the type of stuff that the NY Times does with headlines. It's irresponsible, it's misleading, and it's not the sort of thing that should ever be called "journalism".
77 posted on 08/13/2004 8:45:07 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

The same thug in a bar in Dodge City in the 19th century is far less menacing, since all the patrons are armed.

Along with a rope, a tree, and a frisky horse.


78 posted on 08/13/2004 8:46:49 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: truthandlife
But as Michael Dukakis' Lieutenant Governor, Kerry authored an executive order that said the state of Massachussetts would refuse to take part in any civil defense efforts in response to a nuclear attack on America.

Say what?

I suppose he would not respond after he responded? Or what? I'm having trouble with kerry-speak.

79 posted on 08/13/2004 8:50:49 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: Lady GOP

From reading the article I don't understand how they get that statement.

The true statement is that there would be no "civil defense" response.

The statement seems to lead you to believe that Kerry wouldn't fire back in response to a nuclear attack.


80 posted on 08/13/2004 8:51:12 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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