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Kerry: I Wouldn't Respond to Nuclear Attack
Newsmax ^ | 8/13/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 08/13/2004 7:04:03 AM PDT by truthandlife

John Kerry told Democrats gathered in Boston two weeks ago that he defended his country as a young soldier in Vietnam and he would defend it again as president.

But as Michael Dukakis' Lieutenant Governor, Kerry authored an executive order that said the state of Massachussetts would refuse to take part in any civil defense efforts in response to a nuclear attack on America.

The presidential candidate was an ardent proponent of the nuclear freeze at the time, and viewed Cold War civil defense preparations as an attempt to delude the American people into thinking a nuclear exchange was survivable.

Lt. Gov. Kerry's executive order on behalf of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts read in part:

"Whereas the existing and potential strength of nuclear weapons is such that nuclear war can neither be won nor survived, it can only be prevented; and Whereas the only effective defense against the horrors of nuclear weapons lies in their elimination and in the prevention of nuclear war or attacks, [the Commonwealth of Massachusetts] shall seek to ensure the safety of its citizens by pursuit of policies reflecting a serious commitment to prevention of nuclear war."

"Such policies," the Kerry directive continued, "shall include education of citizens concerning the real nature of nuclear war and efforts to influence national policy towards negotiation of an end to the nuclear-arms race."

The Kerry order stated emphatically, however: "No funds shall be expended by the Commonwealth for crisis relocation planning for nuclear war."

Monica Conyngham, Lt. Gov. Kerry's spokeswoman at the time, defended the controversial document, telling reporters, ''We believe that (evacuation) plans are absolutely futile and that there are no safehavens from nuclear war.''

Gov. Dukakis signed Kerry's "no nuclear defense" executive order into law on June 28, 1984.


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KEYWORDS: issues; kerry; nationalinsecurity; nonukeskerry; nuclearfreeze; nuclearwar; unbelieveable
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To: Neville72
What would he do if a suitcase nuke was lit off in an American city and the culprit could be tied to a particular country?

He would leave to be sitting ducks for an attack

21 posted on 08/13/2004 7:19:13 AM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: Neville72

The point of the article is not that Kerry wouldn't retaliate (and I doubt he would without France's permission), the point is that he has no "survivor" mentality - when faced with the aftermath of a nuclear attack, he would rather give into despair and futility than have plans in place to give his constituents a fighting chance at survival.

His mindset was short-sighted durng the cold war. Post 9-11, its suicidal.


22 posted on 08/13/2004 7:19:17 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: Constitution Day
But if Florida doesn't straighen up this time they may be the ones in trouble:

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23 posted on 08/13/2004 7:19:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: truthandlife
Whereas the only effective defense against the horrors of nuclear weapons lies in their elimination

Actually, John the only effective defense occurs when the enemy realizes that a nuclear attack on us will result in their complete annihilation. Since the nuclear genie can't be put back in the bottle, the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) is what has kept the world from blowing up.

Kerry is using the same argument that gun-control advocates use, which assumes that the enemy or the criminal can be talked out of using his weapons. A gun-toting thug in a setting populated by unarmed civilians is a dangerous scenario. The same thug in a bar in Dodge City in the 19th century is far less menacing, since all the patrons are armed.

25 posted on 08/13/2004 7:20:44 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: muslims=borg
The Chinese are probably getting their missiles ready as we speak (more accurate thanks to Clinton)

Hell, they weren't even getting them off the launch pad until clinton....

26 posted on 08/13/2004 7:20:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: jojodamofo
I agree. I remember the sentiment that lead to resolutions like this in the early 80's. Quite frankly, with what nuclear war would have looked like back then - I can, almost, understand the sentiment.

Unfortunately the side effect was to gut the state Civil Defense operations that we are now desperately trying to rebuild via CERT, etc.

27 posted on 08/13/2004 7:21:05 AM PDT by hedgie
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To: truthandlife

Mr. Limbacher, another 100% pure unadulterated line of newsmax for your morning coffee.


28 posted on 08/13/2004 7:21:11 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Rebelbase

HA! Don't fark with me, Florida.


29 posted on 08/13/2004 7:21:25 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: truthandlife

The headline is dishonest and the article should be pulled from the site. We are not Democrats.


30 posted on 08/13/2004 7:21:49 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: hedgie

Good point, that line of thought could make some good copy.


31 posted on 08/13/2004 7:22:53 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Neville72

This is great. I can't wait to share this with the Libs in my office....if my office is still there tomorrow.


32 posted on 08/13/2004 7:23:36 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Mo1

Kerry would rather do a McGreevy rather than actually do something BRAVE and USEFUL to this country.
Yeah, I agree.
I'll take the guy who'd do something over the guy who'll ask to be called 'fraulein' while taking it from the invading muslim hordes.


33 posted on 08/13/2004 7:24:20 AM PDT by Darksheare (I'll bayonet your snowmen and beat you down with a chinese yo-yo!!)
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To: Taliesan

It is an article. Lighten up. All kinds of articles are posted on FR including a lot of untruthful liberal articles.

It was posted for comment. Criticize newsmax not FR.


34 posted on 08/13/2004 7:24:26 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

What a p*ssy.


35 posted on 08/13/2004 7:24:39 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (http://stores.ebay.com/RIGHT-WING-GEAR_W0QQsspagenameZl2QQtZkm)
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To: truthandlife
"shall include education of citizens concerning the real nature of nuclear war and efforts to influence national policy towards negotiation of an end to the nuclear-arms race."

which becomes a worthless moot point after an attack....idiot.
36 posted on 08/13/2004 7:25:10 AM PDT by grumple (I'm too old to worry about whether or not I'm a pain in your ass...)
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To: truthandlife
It is an article.

It is a lie.

37 posted on 08/13/2004 7:26:55 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: All

Some of you may have heard about my dreams...


Well, I had an interesting dream. It takes us back to when Robert Kennedy was running for President.

In my dream I found myself as an observer of a close friend and confidant of Robert Kennedy. At some point during the dream it felt as if I was being given a chance to speak, and that I would be able to alter the future by warning him about the assassination attempt. But I was stopped last second by a series of images.

I flashed forward to the present day and I saw the President of the United States. He was a soft man, a sensitive man, not a man who should've had the job. The Soviet Union had never falling, so the Democrats probably retained control of the Oval Office.

I was watching things in fast forward as a crisis arose and missiles were launched against the United States. This President of the United States stared out the window and ordered the military to stand down. I watched Washington D.C. destroyed by a nuclear blast.

As the vision faded I was facing Robert, it looked like he was expecting me to say something. My chance passed. I let it go. The person who I was observing through stood up and said it is time.

Now I was looking out through Robert's eyes. When we reached the lobby of the hotel, I saw a woman. She was beautiful. I knew her, she smiled at me. She was leaving...

The dream went into overdrive, and I was being rushed out past a bunch of people. Shots were being fired... That was the end of the dream... Not all the shots came from in front of me/Robert.

I spun forward till I was watching a funeral. It was dim, as if I was watching a very sad moment in an old movie, with the area around the mourners being the only lit spot.

I fast forward again, and I am back in the body of the person who had been with Robert. I am sitting with Jackie Kennedy. Both of these people are crying... And the dream fades out, and I woke up.




If the last of the good Democrats hadn't died, the Party probably would've thrived into the present day... And where would we be now?

I was that President for a second in the dream. I felt what he felt... And you know what it was? He felt woefully inadequate for the job. He felt like a fraud. He cried after he gave the order to stand down and let America be destroyed by the Soviet missiles. He cried...

This is what I expect John Kerry to do if he is ever elected. When it goes to hell in a hand basket... He'll cry and let it happen. He'll realize how inadequate he was for the job of the President. He'll realize that he was a fraud. He'll realize that the Presidency isn't like being king of the hill in a school yard game. And we can't afford to have a man like that making the biggest decisions of this nation.


38 posted on 08/13/2004 7:27:47 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: CJ Wolf

>>> Come on, it associates Dukasis with Kerry it can't be all that bad. Besides it's newsmax.

True, but there are easier ways to associate Kerry with Dukakis without implying he would not respond to a nuclear attack as president. This article is about how he decided to spend money as the lieutenant governor of Taxachusetts almost twenty years ago.

A huge percentage of the posts on FR are about how the liberal media uses misleading headlines. The NY Slimes could use this exact same article ... headlined "Realist Kerry Has Track Record of Fiscal Conservatism."


39 posted on 08/13/2004 7:28:48 AM PDT by jojodamofo
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To: Taliesan
It is a lie.

The Kerry EO urged no planning for a response to a nuclear attack, and made it the official policy of the state of Massachusetts.

Where's the lie?

40 posted on 08/13/2004 7:31:40 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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