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U.S. Forces Suspend Offensive in Najaf
Yahoo NEWS ^ | 13 Aug 04 | TODD PITMAN

Posted on 08/13/2004 3:49:58 AM PDT by Barney Gumble

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If Bush wants to fulfil sceptical liberal predictions of “another Vietnam” then he should continue doing what he is doing. This seems to be the cycle: Insurgents cause violence. US assaults insurgents. Insurgents take losses and call cease fire. Insurgents regroup and rearm. Insurgents cause violence. Al-Sadr will never be a decent human being. There is no reason for negotiations. Everytime we assault and stop, more Marine dies and it kills moral. NOTE TO BUSH: STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH MARINES LIVES. For a President who defined sceptics to invade Iraq (rightfully) he certainly has taken a back step, overly worrying about Muslim sensitivities.

I still like him, and he is doing a better job than Kerry would, but come on already… how many chances will we give Sadr, when he does deserve any?

1 posted on 08/13/2004 3:49:59 AM PDT by Barney Gumble
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To: Barney Gumble

I can't believe we are doing this again...


2 posted on 08/13/2004 3:51:11 AM PDT by Dog ( Attention: Everyone check their briefcase for their "magic" secret agent hat... That is all.)
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To: Barney Gumble

Wish you wouldn't use that name in the title that way.


3 posted on 08/13/2004 3:52:54 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Barney Gumble

This article should be posted in Breaking News.

In an earlier article, posted today, a Mehdi militia official was interviewed in the HQ, and he said then that negotiations were ongoing all day, with an eye to a withdrawl and regrouping.


4 posted on 08/13/2004 3:53:55 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Barney Gumble

Watch the sacrilige in the title. Ruins the whole thread.


5 posted on 08/13/2004 3:54:58 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: DainBramage; Barney Gumble

Seems that the vernacualr of armchair quaterbacking has seeped onto FR.


6 posted on 08/13/2004 3:55:04 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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Allawi, time to step up to the plate. Are you going to lead Iraq? Let your troops go in there and extract the treasonous cleric. After the fighting is done, make a generous gift to the shrine and invite moderate clerics to oversee the reconstruction of anything broken.

It was never the intent of the shrine for it to harbor killers. These criminals have killed Iraqi's of the very branch of the faith to which the shrine is holy. Their declared goals and their methods have nothing in common, and their lie must be exposed. Storm the shrine! Take prisoners and kill any who resist! Restore the shrine to its sanctified purpose! Try the men as criminals under your law, and bring peace to your troubled country.

Just hurry up and do it, and get it over with!


7 posted on 08/13/2004 3:55:12 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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Oh yee of little faith.

This cessation of offensive actions is to give cover to the deployment of Iraqi forces to press the attack into the final "holy" sites.

8 posted on 08/13/2004 3:56:17 AM PDT by Natural Law
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You'd think we'd be smarter after watching the palis employ these same tactics on Israel for so many years.


9 posted on 08/13/2004 3:56:30 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Dane

Good point!


10 posted on 08/13/2004 3:57:12 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Barney Gumble
Again people, you are not there.

You can do all the armchair quarterbacking you want, but I will trust our military. They know what they are doing, IMO.

11 posted on 08/13/2004 3:57:15 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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I still like him, and he is doing a better job than Kerry would, but come on already… how many chances will we give Sadr, when he does deserve any?

As the expert behind the keyboard pontificates.

12 posted on 08/13/2004 3:59:47 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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Watch the sacrilige in the title. Ruins the whole thread.

Should be Jesus Jumping Christmas.

I wouldn't read too much into these "negotiations.

Sadr isn't going to get away this time.

He will be captured or killed.

13 posted on 08/13/2004 3:59:52 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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IMO you can bet politics has nothing to do with it, and George W

is not even directly involved in when they start or stop.

I would even go so far as to say the generals on the ground

who make the decision to stop, do so with intelligence

you nor I have and as such prevent more American deaths.

Take a breath.

14 posted on 08/13/2004 4:02:18 AM PDT by DainBramage
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I also doubt President Bush is directly involved with this, but you can be sure politics are involved with this, as they do in every war that a democratic country wages against an enemy.
15 posted on 08/13/2004 4:05:27 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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Well, we turned over sovereignty to the Iraqis. What did we expect?

I'm guessing that foremost in Allawi's mind were all the potential Shiite voters we were killing in Najaf.

16 posted on 08/13/2004 4:06:48 AM PDT by snopercod (Has anybody noticed that Iraq is using Saddam's "God is Great" flag again?)
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To: Barney Gumble

One thing I've noticed about Bush is that he's willing to do the right thing and let others do the right thing, no matter what the political fallout.

If we went full bore, they'd say he was doing it for political reasons.

We stop, and some say he's doing it for political reasons.

He's doing it for the right reasons, political hay be darned.


17 posted on 08/13/2004 4:06:58 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: Dog

This is Church of the Nativity II.


18 posted on 08/13/2004 4:07:01 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Barney Gumble

EXACTLY.

This crap reads like a replay of Viet Nam.

You'd think these people won the war, not us.


19 posted on 08/13/2004 4:09:44 AM PDT by ZULU
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This crap reads like a replay of Viet Nam.

You'd think these people won the war, not us.

And you know this how? Are you posting from Najaf?

20 posted on 08/13/2004 4:11:54 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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